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1 posted on 02/14/2010 6:52:08 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld
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To: sonofstrangelove; sukhoi-30mki

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2 posted on 02/14/2010 6:55:36 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 388 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Great. But we don't need the F-22. Nope.

What idiots these liberals are.

3 posted on 02/14/2010 6:56:04 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Yeah, but you have to have Clint Eastwood speak to it in Russian...


4 posted on 02/14/2010 6:56:21 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: sonofstrangelove
Chief of the Russian General Staff, Army General Nikolai Makarov said the new fighter, in which India is a partner, would be superior to the US F-22 Raptor- the only flying fifth generation fighter.

"It would have an artificial intellect, almost at the level of human intellect," General Makarov was quoted as saying by agencies.

I guess they finally moved on from vacuum-tube electronics.

5 posted on 02/14/2010 6:57:14 PM PST by Charles Martel ("Endeavor to persevere...")
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To: sonofstrangelove
The older Soviet T-50s just don't land so gracefully as the Russian T-50.


6 posted on 02/14/2010 6:57:35 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: sonofstrangelove
From the Sino-Russian Joint Statement of April 23, 1997:
"The two sides [China and Russia] shall, in the spirit of partnership, strive to promote the multipolarization of the world and the establishment of a new international order."
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/HI29Ag01.html
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Russia and China have been holding joint war games every other year since 2005. The latest apparently took place on July 22-27 of last year.

"Russia and China will hold their joint military exercise on July 22-27 on the territories of the two countries. About 3,000 military men, 300 units of military hardware, over 40 planes and helicopters will take part in Peace Mission-2009 drills. About 1,500 servicemen, T-80 tanks, BMP-1 and BTR-70 armored vehicles, 22 aircraft, including two Il-76 cargo planes, five Su-24, five Su-25, five Su-27 fighters and five Mi-8 helicopters will represent Russia in the drills."

http://www.russiansentry.com/?area=postView&id=1409
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[2009] Russia, China plan new joint military exercises

By MARTIN SIEFF, UPI Senior News Analyst
Published: March 26, 2009

WASHINGTON, March 26 (UPI) -- The continuing tensions over Russia's refusal to sell its state-of-the-art land warfare advanced weapons systems to China hasn't interrupted the rhythm of major joint military exercises between the two major land powers on the Eurasian landmass. The latest in the regular, biennial series of exercises between the two nations has been confirmed for this summer.

The next in the now well-established series of exercises called Peace Mission 2009 will be carried out in northeastern China, the Russian Defense Ministry announced March 18, according to a report carried by the RIA Novosti news agency.

The first bilateral Peace Mission maneuvers -- described at the time as counter-terrorism exercises -- were held in Russia and the eastern Chinese province of Shandong in August 2005. As we reported at that time, they were a lot bigger than mere counter-terrorism exercises. Warships, squadrons of combat aircraft and more than 10,000 troops were involved carrying out landings against hypothetically hostile shores. The maneuvers also involved large-scale paratroops drops. The scale and nature of those exercises suggested a trial run for a possible Chinese invasion of Taiwan with Russian support. ..."

http://www.upi.com/Security_Industry/2009/03/26/Russia_China_plan_new_joint_military_exercises/UPI-25021238094858/
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Russia, China flex muscles in joint war games
August 17, 2007

CHEBARKUL, Russia (Reuters) - Russia and China staged their biggest joint exercises on Friday but denied this show of military prowess could lead to the formation of a counterweight to NATO.

"Today's exercises are another step towards strengthening the relations between our countries, a step towards strengthening international peace and security, and first and foremost, the security of our peoples," Putin said.

Fighter jets swooped overhead, commandos jumped from helicopters on to rooftops and the boom of artillery shells shook the firing range in Russia's Ural mountains as two of the largest armies in the world were put through their paces.

The exercises take place against a backdrop of mounting rivalry between the West, and Russia and China for influence over Central Asia, a strategic region that has huge oil, gas and mineral resources.

Russia's growing assertiveness is also causing jitters in the West. Putin announced at the firing range that Russia was resuming Soviet-era sorties by its strategic bomber aircraft near NATO airspace.

http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-29030120070817?pageNumber=1&virtualBrandChannel=0
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War Games: Russia, China Grow Alliance
September 23, 2005

In foreign policy it’s critical to “know thine enemy.” So American policymakers should be aware that Russia and China are inching closer to identifying a common enemy — the United States.

The two would-be superpowers held unprecedented joint military exercises Aug. 18-25. Soothingly named “Peace Mission 2005,” the drills took place on the Shandong peninsula on the Yellow Sea, and included nearly 10,000 troops. Russian long-range bombers, the army, navy, air force, marine, airborne and logistics units from both countries were also involved.

Moscow and Beijing claim the maneuvers were aimed at combating terrorism, extremism and separatism (the last a veiled reference to Taiwan), but it’s clear they were an attempt to counter-balance American military might.

Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed092605a.cfm

7 posted on 02/14/2010 6:58:55 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: sonofstrangelove

Our adversaries are starting to catch up with us. It was ridiculous to discontinue the F-22 because we aren’t using them in the War on Terror. I certainly hope this isn’t a trend we will continue to see. In the U.K., Gordon Brown wants to cut the fleet of nuclear submarines from 4 to 3. Part of having a capable deterrence is being prepared for unforeseen threats. Then again with the Chinese military-industrial complex growing leaps and bounds while resource scarcity may be a challenge in 10 years, I don’t see how anyone could rule out Wars between major powers.


8 posted on 02/14/2010 6:59:48 PM PST by ATX 1985
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To: sonofstrangelove

lol “superior to the F-22..” in what way? Cost maybe? ;-D

That Russian bird is still in development. Nothing on that plane is gen V yet...it uses recycled equipment and engines. It’s still vaporware until a real production unit actually takes flight.


13 posted on 02/14/2010 7:35:53 PM PST by miliantnutcase
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To: sonofstrangelove

Really doubt it has almost human level intellect. IT could have expert systems running, it could have certain heuristics, but that ain’t “almost human level intellect”.

You need to have ‘almost consciousness’ to be able to say ‘almost human level intellect’.


15 posted on 02/14/2010 8:16:34 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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