Even if the Pubbies can't manage to get this passed and signed into law, I give them major props for even proposing it. It's a very good step in the right direction for this country.
Posted on 02/15/2010 9:38:26 AM PST by NormsRevenge
Republican lawmakers in Congress are sponsoring a bill that seeks to abolish birthright citizenship for children born in the United States to illegal immigrant parents.
Federal law automatically grants citizenship to any person born on American soil, regardless of the immigration status of the child's parents.
Supporters of the bill say that many people come to this country for the express purpose of having children who are American citizens, making the family eligible for welfare and other government benefits.
"You have many people coming to this country illegally," said Rep. Gary Miller, R-Brea, a co-sponsor of the legislation. "They come to this country and have babies. The children are citizens. The children are eligible to go to school. They receive food stamps and social programs. The American taxpayers are paying for it."
The bill does not seek to change the Constitution, which grants birthright citizenship under the 14th Amendment ratified in 1868.
Instead, it would amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to clarify the interpretation of the 14th Amendment.
The measure would limit birthright citizenship to children born to at least one parent who is either a citizen, lawful permanent resident or actively serving in the U.S. military. The legislation would only apply prospectively and would not affect the citizenship status of people born before the bill's enactment.
If the bill passes, people on both sides of the issue say it is likely to be challenged on constitutional grounds.
"This bill is unconstitutional," said Rep. Joe Baca, D-San Bernardino. "It would change one of the most basic principles that our nation was founded on: If you were born in the United States, you're an American."
Baca accused the bill's sponsors of playing election-year politics.
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Even if the Pubbies can't manage to get this passed and signed into law, I give them major props for even proposing it. It's a very good step in the right direction for this country.
A good idea but it is unconstitutional. The way to stop it is to secure the border and deport all illegals even if there are 20 million.
Not a chance until the Dem’s and Obama are voted out. MCain to. But, put it on the list though and make a commitment. May God send.
And that is the key phrase. Subject to the jurisdiction means....To whom do you owe your allegiance?
“Let’s hear what McCain and JD have to say about this”
This may give you a hint what McCain thinks. J.D. is on record against birthright citizenship.
H.R. 3938 - would put an end to the birthright citizenship process that automatically grants citizenship to the U.S.-born children of illegal aliens. Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ) is the bill’s main sponsor.
http://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/congress/proposed-bills/proposed-bills-109th-congress/birthright-citizenship.html
And McCain??
Change rule barring immigrants from running for president?
Q: Should we change our Constitution to allow men like Mel Martinez, born in Cuba, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, born in Austria, to stand here some night as candidates for president?
McCAIN: He and I have many similar attributes, so I have to seriously consider it.
Source: 2007 GOP primary debate, at Reagan library, hosted by MSNBC May 3, 2007
MCCAin doesn’t even object to an illegal alien being president!
According to John McCain EVERYONE in the world should be able to come here.
Give everyone in the world an opportunity to come to America
“Those who live closest are the ones who can get here. Everyone in the world should have the opportunity through an orderly process to come to this country.”
Source: AZ Senate Debate, in Tucson Citizen Oct 16, 2004
Unfortunately, it probably is. Image how nice it would be if we could get a government who puts the American people first for a change. Now that illegals vote and and no one stops them, it makes it hard to do the right thing.
Hmmm, the constitution seems pretty clear to me:
“All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”
No illegals = no anchor babies. Therein lies the ENFORCEMENT problem.
And just because the kids are citizens doesn’t mean we have to allow the parents to become citizens or stay in this country. Strip the parents of any legal rights for endangering their children, put these kids up for adoption, and deport the parents back to their country of origin.
Do this a few times and, believe me, the word will get around and the practice will end.
Why anyone thinks that a Dim Congress with a Kenyan Communist "President" would pass it, I dunno.
But never hurts to bring the subject up! You might even think the Stupid Party was growing a pair...but of course, you'd be wrong.
amen
a few years ago this thread would been called racist by bayourod, stinkie and the rest of the gang
Absolutely... That needs to be revised!... No wonder the poor illegals are so confused!...
But I hope the idiot Republicans know how to frame it right... or they will run them out of town for RACISM. I mean they are so dumb... when it comes to dealing with minorities...
The angle is: We WANT/NEED *** LEGAL *** Immigration and we need to get tough on ILLEGAL immigration. Just keep hammering that. LEGALS yes! Illegals No.
Words mean things in laws.
See Post 25, where the "and subject to the jurisdiction of" thingy rears it's little head again.
If you are a national of another country, and not a lawful immigrant alien, then you are just that: a national of another country. Your child inherits your nationality, regardless of where he is born. The fact that you walked in and decided to have a kid doesn't mean anything to the locals. You don't choose who is "them", they do.
Anything else is just tyranny!
Aww man...I'd forgotten that punk...sheez....good thing that a little cleansing happens, huh?!
The real expese, and nobody talks about it—is INCARCERATION. The hardworking guests from the south are filling up our jails and prisons.
You are wrong screaminsunshine! It's quite obvious you have never read the 14th amendment and are just relying on the leftist propaganda you were fed in government schools. Here's the actual text of the the first paragraph of the 14th amendment posted below. It says that in addition to being born or naturalized in the the US, they must be "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." A child born to an illegal alien is subject to the jurisdiction of a foreign county.
Amendment 14
1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
“a few years ago this thread would been called racist by bayourod, stinkie and the rest of the gang”
Yep. A few of the squatter support squad are still around throwing out their racist remarks. I hope they’re happy with the mess they’ve enabled.
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