The AGW Smoking Gun

American Thinker ^ | February 17, 2010 | Gary Thompson

[Jet Jaguar]

Bump

[Republic of Texas]

No matter what the data says, 200 years of current records plus various snapshots of conditions throughout history simply aren’t enough to say what is or is not happening.

[LanaTurnerOverdrive]

mark

[parsifal]

Freeper, cobra64, nailed it with this pic: parsy

[Paladin2]

A return to an Ice Age is a Bad Thing. We are apparently overdue to do so.

[steelyourfaith]

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[Bhoy]

Great one!

So, is somebody going to email this to the Chamber of Commerce (just in case they don’t see it) getting ready for the what’s got to be the most interesting trial of the century? CofC v EPA?

Ha ha!

[cogitator]

So why’s the stratosphere cooling off?

[steveab]

This CO2 Cap and Trade tax is not dead. It's in the Energy Bill. This Tax will make payroll tax look like child's play.
The CEO of AEP on CNBC stated CO2 Cap and Trade will increase of cost of electric from $.04 to $.07 per KWH and that is only “if” the government gives the permits away for free.
Here the kicker. If someone wanted to start a new business that will use a lot of energy, they would need to get CO2 permit from the government. What happens when all the CO2 permits are already allocated? If you are a widget maker, all your future competition has been eliminated inside our borders. Under Co2 Cap and Trade, the existing widget maker is hoping to eliminate competition from out side our borders. CO2 Cap and Trade Tax must not pass.

[dannyboy72a]

Interesting thesis. Worth further examination.

[neverdem]

So why’s the stratosphere cooling off?

We're having global cooling.

Dear Al Gore: Please Send Us Some More of That “Global Warming”

The severe winter weather over the last several years is due to global cooling, not warming.

New Sunspots Could Produce Space Storms

The sun has been relatively quiet the past two years. It's at the low point in a known 11-year cycle of activity. The next peak of activity is expected sometime in 2013. The ability to predict how strong the next peak will be, or when any given storm will strike as activity ramps up in the coming months, remains iffy.

Figure in Milankovitch Cycles and assorted oceanic perturbations like the PDO, etc. The precautionary principle is a recipe for economic ruin, IMHO, especially when the climate models are so deficient.

[justa-hairyape]

The Greenhouse Effect is real and necessary for life on Earth. Without it, our world would be a frozen ball that would not be hospitable for life as we know it.

Nothing to do with a greenhouse. It is due to having an atmosphere. If the density of the atmosphere is too great, you get Venus. If the density is too weak, you get Mars. Good article otherwise.

[Huebolt]

A return to an Ice Age is a Bad Thing. We are apparently overdue to do so.

You are absolutely correct. Sad to say, the normal state of the earth is, indeed, an ice-age of various degree. I've seen glacial striations in north Texas. A couple of winters like this with a few "years of no summer" and there we would be.

[neverdem]

Nothing to do with a greenhouse. It is due to having an atmosphere. If the density of the atmosphere is too great, you get Venus. If the density is too weak, you get Mars.

I like your answer. Is it intuition, or do you have a source or two?

[steveab]

Here's a real life example.
In my heck of the woods, the city will only allow x amount of liquor permits for y population density. If you want one and all the permits have been issued, your SOL.
The other part of CO2 Cap and trade would be like all the liquor permit holders getting together (with the government getting their cut) agreeing to pay the city down the road to remain dry.

[AFreeBird]

Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics

[neverdem]

Thanks for the link.

[AFreeBird]

No problem. I thought even just the “executive summary” was pretty in depth and informative. I haven’t waded into the full paper yet. Probably a little above my pay grade.