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JOE BIDEN RIDICULED FOR WEARING ASHES
Catholic League ^ | 021710 | Bill Donohue

Posted on 02/17/2010 2:24:51 PM PST by Fred

Fox News analyst Bob Beckel today criticized Vice President Joe Biden for wearing ashes on TV; today is Ash Wednesday and Biden is Catholic.

In the middle of a discussion on President Obama’s stimulus plan, Beckel gratuitously said, “Sorry about laughing, but I looked at Joe Biden’s forehead, and I know it is Ash Wednesday, but I’m not sure I would wear that ash on the air. Anyway….”

Catholic League president Bill Donohue wasn’t amused:

Bob Beckel’s admonishing remark, “I’m not sure I would wear that ash on the air,” makes us wonder whether it is the public display of ashes he finds risible, or the religion that sports them.

In any event, there is no record of Beckel ever lecturing a Jew about wearing a yarmulke on TV or a Muslim wearing a turban. Must be something about Catholicism that bothers this guy. We’d love to know what it is. At the very least, a clarification about what he meant is in order.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: apostate; ashwednesday; biden; catholicpoliticians; catholics4abortion; excommunication; godgap; hypocrite; religiousleft
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Whenever they get laid off or their contract expires due to years of cruddy ratings.


41 posted on 02/17/2010 2:41:28 PM PST by dr_who
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To: jakerobins

He ALWAYS, always, goes to great lengths to make public appearances on Ash Wednesday, always with the ashes on the forehead.

Of course there’s nothing wrong with the ashes showing. You’re not supposed to wipe them off.

But it’s obvious as most anything that Plugs wants the world to see his ashes.

If an Ash Wednesday goes by without Plugs on TV with ashes on his forehead I’ll shut up.

I’ve got a five year streak going since I started keeping records.


42 posted on 02/17/2010 2:41:40 PM PST by Fishtalk
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To: Fred
I'm a Protestant and my services aren't until this evening, but I have lots of Catholic friends and their service is traditionally the early morning Mass. So, for once, I have no beef with Joe.

And for my friends who do not observe Ash Wednesday, no, you don't wash them off.

43 posted on 02/17/2010 2:41:58 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: Neets
Whether we like him or not he is entitled to wear his ashes in public

All depends on whether they were applied by his priest or his makeup artist.

44 posted on 02/17/2010 2:42:17 PM PST by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: mckenzie7

“3.He’ a work in progress, just like the rest of us..”

Oh, come on. Biden’s religion is just a political prop.

He’s using religion, just like Obama plays on being black.

You know it.


45 posted on 02/17/2010 2:43:20 PM PST by TheThirdRuffian (Nothing to see here. Move along.)
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To: Truth is a Weapon

That’s an easy question:

Because Joe has never had a bishop who had any testicles.


46 posted on 02/17/2010 2:43:32 PM PST by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: mckenzie7
"excluding you, or course!"

Nice try. I fully expect to judged by the same standards by which I judge others. Do I live a perfect Catholic life? Nope. Does my participation in the electoral and political process reflect my faith and values? Yep. And if they did otherwise, I would expect other people to question the sincerity of my faith.

47 posted on 02/17/2010 2:43:44 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

48 posted on 02/17/2010 2:44:28 PM PST by Fishtalk
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To: Fred

Sayeth Bob Beckel, that “Deacon of Decorum” who writes personal checks to prostitutes....


49 posted on 02/17/2010 2:45:28 PM PST by paddles
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To: Fred
Catholic League president Bill Donohue wasn’t amused

Apparently he's rarely amused - he's been getting upset about South Park for years.
51 posted on 02/17/2010 2:46:17 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Oh you said ashes.....

52 posted on 02/17/2010 2:47:13 PM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: TheThirdRuffian
In fact, the Gospel reading you mention is the reading for the RC Mass today...So if apostate, Biden, attended Mass today, he would have heard this proclamation

Mt 6:1-6.16-18.

(But) take care not to perform righteous deeds in order that people may see them; otherwise, you will have no recompense from your heavenly Father.
When you give alms, do not blow a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets to win the praise of others. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward.
But when you give alms, do not let your left hand know what your right is doing, so that your almsgiving may be secret. And your Father who sees in secret will repay you.
When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, who love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on street corners so that others may see them. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward.
But when you pray, go to your inner room, close the door, and pray to your Father in secret. And your Father who sees in secret will repay you. When you fast, do not look gloomy like the hypocrites. They neglect their appearance, so that they may appear to others to be fasting. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward.
But when you fast, anoint your head and wash your face, so that you may not appear to be fasting, except to your Father who is hidden. And your Father who sees what is hidden will repay you.
53 posted on 02/17/2010 2:47:13 PM PST by Fred (For Freedom)
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To: Fred

I saw no sack cloth however.

Biden is an exhibitionist, a religious exhibitionist.


54 posted on 02/17/2010 2:47:20 PM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Tax the poor. Taxes will give them a stake in society)
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To: maggief
She's in a state of Apostasy.
55 posted on 02/17/2010 2:51:37 PM PST by a fool in paradise (DON'T SAY "Happy Valentines' Day". It's Happy Holidays! This is the Holiday Season (Prez Day Feb15))
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To: maggief

Are there photos of her wearing ashes in 2007, 2008, and 2009? Or is this because of Obama’s silent observance of Christmas?


56 posted on 02/17/2010 2:52:49 PM PST by a fool in paradise (DON'T SAY "Happy Valentines' Day". It's Happy Holidays! This is the Holiday Season (Prez Day Feb15))
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To: TheThirdRuffian
Seems I distictly remember Jesus distinctly warning against hypocrites who covered themselves in ashes and pretending to be pious (or somesuch).

I also remember that Jesus dined with sinners as they, rather than the righteous, were in need of the good news!

The Gospel reading for today ..Matthew 6:1-6, 16-18 suggests that we don't parade around looking gloomy so that others will marvel at our piety.

Joe Biden wasn't parading around looking gloomy but was openly professing his faith in our Lord and salvation and not hiding the fact that he was participating in the start of Lent, a time for renewal, reflection and self mortification.

I say Congratulations to you Joe Biden, for not hiding your faith.

I could criticize him for a lot of things, but not for professing his faith in public where he is apt to be ridiculed by the likes of Beckel!

57 posted on 02/17/2010 2:54:09 PM PST by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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To: TheThirdRuffian

He’s using religion like he used (destroyed) the truck driver that he falsely accused of drunk driving.

http://www.delawaregrapevine.com/12-07bidencrash.asp

Posted: Dec. 20, 2007
IT AIN’T SO, JOE

By Celia Cohen
Grapevine Political Writer

If ever there was a crash that tugged at the heart of the entire state, it was the one that took the lives of Joe Biden’s wife and baby daughter and hospitalized his two toddler sons 35 years ago, just weeks after his precocious election to the U.S. Senate.

It was an unbearable turn of events, from one of the most daring political breakthroughs in Delaware political history to unspeakable grief, and there is no reason to make the accident appear worse than it was.

While campaigning in Iowa for the Democratic presidential nomination, however, Biden did.

“Let me tell you a little story,” he was quoted as saying last Friday in the New York Times.

“I got elected when I was 29, and I got elected November the 7th. And on December 18 of that year, my wife and three kids were Christmas shopping for a Christmas tree. A tractor-trailer, a guy who allegedly – and I never pursued it – drank his lunch instead of eating his lunch, broadsided my family and killed my wife instantly, and killed my daughter instantly, and hospitalized my two sons, with what were thought to be at the time permanent, fundamental injuries.”

Except there was no drinking. There was not even speeding. The truck’s brakes checked out, as well. It was not the driver’s fault.

Biden insisted Wednesday in a brief telephone interview from Iowa he told the story as he knew it.

“All I said was what I heard at the time. What I heard from folks at the time is he’d been drinking,” Biden said, sounding agitated. “I don’t want to talk about it. . . . She must have pulled out. . . . It’s still painful to talk about 35 years later.”

The embellishment is reminiscent of one of the problems that undid Biden the last time he ran for president 20 years ago. He was swallowed up mostly by plagiarism charges, but there was also an incident, taped by C-SPAN, in which Biden became irritated with a New Hampshire voter and belittled him by inflating his own uneven academic credentials.

Among Biden’s claims, he said he was named the outstanding student in political science at the University of Delaware and was in the top half of his law school class at Syracuse University, both untrue, and won an international moot court competition, which was true. He also gibed, “I’d be delighted to sit down and compare my IQ to yours.”

In Biden’s memoir, Promises to Keep, his explanation for that blowup was along the lines of his account of the accident – lack of knowledge.

“I lost my temper in New Hampshire. What I’d said about my academic achievements was just faulty memory or lack of knowledge. I hadn’t remembered where I finished in my law school class. I hadn’t cared. But to say, ‘Wanna compare IQs?’ was so stupid,” Biden wrote.

The crash involving the Biden family station wagon and the tractor-trailer driven by Curtis C. Dunn, 43, of Kaolin, Pa., occurred on Monday afternoon, Dec. 18, 1972, a week before Christmas, at the intersection of Valley and Limestone Roads in Hockessin.

Joe Biden, who turned 30 in late November, was in Washington to set up his Senate office. Neilia Biden, 30, was at the wheel with their three young children – three-year-old Beau Biden, now the state’s Democratic attorney general, two-year-old Hunter Biden, now a lawyer in Washington, and 13-month-old Amy Biden.

The tractor-trailer was heading toward Pennsylvania on Limestone Road when it broadsided the station wagon, sending it spinning for 150 feet, breaking the windshield and crushing in a rear door, while the truck itself skidded for 20 feet and landed on its side, according to The News Journal, which was printed in two editions in those days as The Morning News and the Evening Journal.

Old campaign literature littered the road, along with the truck’s load of corncobs. Dunn, the truck driver, heaved himself out of the wreckage and was the first to get to the station wagon, the newspaper said.

Neilia and Amy Biden died from the crash. Hunter Biden sustained head injuries. Beau Biden had a broken leg that kept him in the hospital beyond the start of the Senate’s new term, leading their broken-hearted father to decide to take his oath of office in the hospital chapel and to vacillate about whether he should be sworn in at all.

“We can always get another senator, but they can’t get another father,” he said.

The state police investigated the accident. The concern then was not that Dunn would get away with anything as serious as drunken driving, but that he could get railroaded. He had plowed into the family of a United States senator, after all.

As the chief deputy attorney general, Jerome Herlihy was assigned to the incident. Two days later, he issued his report, clearing Dunn.

A story headlined, “No Charges Due for Trucker in Biden Deaths,” in the Evening Journal read: “[Herlihy] said there was no evidence that [Dunn] was speeding, drinking or driving a truck with faulty brakes. In addition, Herlihy said, witnesses to the crash near Hockessin provided no basis for a prosecution.”

No further details were released, although Herlihy knew more about the accident than he let on. Years later, he elaborated.

It is hard to think of anyone better the Attorney General’s Office could have sent. Herlihy was a Republican, a good enough one that he served as the Republican state chairman in the late 1970s and early 1980s, but he also knew the Bidens and thought the world of Neilia.

In the late 1960s, Herlihy and the Bidens were neighbors with a common driveway on Marsh Road in Brandywine Hundred, when Joe Biden was a new lawyer. It was before he was elected to the Senate, even before he was elected to the New Castle County Council in 1970.

The Bidens had two German shepherds, and for better or worse, they were named “Senator” and “Governor.” When Herlihy used to pull into the driveway late at night, he would spy eyes looking at him from the bushes and call out, “Senator, is that you?”

Herlihy, now a Superior Court judge, no longer will talk about the accident because he is constrained by his judicial office from injecting himself into a political campaign. He was interviewed about it, however, in 1998 by this writer as part of the research for Only in Delaware, a history of modern state politics.

In that interview, Herlihy said Neilia Biden either accelerated or drifted through the intersection, and Dunn could not stop. The truck driver said she was not looking at him, her face turned away, and the state police thought she was distracted by one of the children in the back seat.

“She was one of the sweetest people you ever could meet. It was so tragic,” Herlihy said in 1998.

Dunn died in 1999, but Philip A. Lafferty, the truck owner he drove for, still lives in Avondale, Pa. In a telephone interview, Lafferty recalled the state police impounding the tractor-trailer and the station wagon for the investigation for a couple of days and concluding that Dunn was not at fault.

“Nothing came of it. They had people, witnesses,” Lafferty said. “He was a good truck driver, very caring. It shook him up. It was an awful thing for all of us.”

Biden’s remarks in Iowa were not his only version of the accident. He offered another description in a speech on Sept. 19, 2001, at the University of Delaware. His focus that day was the terrorist attack of Sept. 11, but he mentioned his personal tragedy to show he understood the country’s.

“I got one of those phone calls,” Biden said.

“I got a phone call saying, ‘Your wife’s dead, your daughter’s dead.’ And I’ve only said that three times in public before. But I say it here because it’s so important for you to understand. I got one of those phone calls. It was an errant driver who stopped to drink instead of drive and hit a tractor-trailer, hit my children and my wife and killed them.”

Except there was no errant drunken driver. No drinking. No speeding. Not even bad brakes.


58 posted on 02/17/2010 2:54:25 PM PST by maggief
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To: Fred

>> Beckel: “but I’m not sure I would wear that ash on the air. Anyway….”

Get it together Beckel.


59 posted on 02/17/2010 2:55:22 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: maggief

Those are the things that I would call Joe Biden out on, not ashes on his forehead on Ash Wednesday.


60 posted on 02/17/2010 3:00:14 PM PST by mckenzie7 (Democrats = Trough Sloppers!)
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