[muglywump]

We count differently. In my book, nobody won. There are only losers when people turn to violence.

[Balding_Eagle]

There are only losers when people turn to violence.

WWII, Hitler.

[eeevil conservative]

one person turned to violence here.....

and one person stopped the violence.....

but if you have some better way to stop violence, I would very much like it if you would enlighten me....

[randomhero97]

Yes, the world is nothing but rainbows and gumdrop smiles. Get a clue, seriously, and come back to reality where the only thing the uncivilized among us regcognize is violence.

[john in springfield]

I don’t see that anybody won, either.

I also don’t see who started the whole argument in the first place. True, the guy who got bloodied appears to have made the first physical move (wrong and big, big mistake), but we don’t see how the mouthing all started.

Honestly, I suspect it was most likely started by the younger black guy. And the reason I suspect that is that it looks it was filmed by someone friendly to the guy who got beaten, and it looks like the beginning has most likely been clipped off to hide how it began.

But there’s really no proof there of exactly how it actually began.

[ExpatGator]

Is defending oneself against a violent attack unacceptable to you?

[Grizzled Bear]

We count differently. In my book, nobody won. There are only losers when people turn to violence.

"When good men do nothing, evil prevails" G Orwell

"You sleep safely in your beds because rough men stand ready to do violence on your behalf." C S Lewis

"If punk don't start nuthin, won't be nuthin!" A Grizzled Bear

[Jack Black]

There are only losers when people turn to violence.That's ridiculous. Is the US Army full of losers? He 1)walked away from the lout 2)got hit in the face.

Self defense is righteous and requires violence.

[oldtimer]

Oh heavens - mean old white guy beating up that poor black guy in Oakland.

Racist white guy was supposed to take the abuse - SURE!

[wardaddy]

There are only losers when people turn to violence.

LOL...really?

Think this poor mother and her baby would agree with you fool? Violence would have and did eventually stop the animals who did that horror in the Ukraine same as that ghetto thug thinking he could have an easy time with an old cracker...like they often do I might add.

[wardaddy]

There are only losers when people turn to violence.

LOL...really?

Think this poor mother and her baby would agree with you fool? Violence would have and did eventually stop the animals who did that horror in the Ukraine same as that ghetto thug thinking he could have an easy time with an old cracker...like they often do I might add....he is done for, he got pwned by an old white fart

[Junior_G]

In my book, nobody won. There are only losers when people turn to violence.

You don't believe in self-defense? That's a sad perspective.

[Darksheare]

Ah yes, curling up in a heap and wrapping your arms around your head works SO well.

[TChris]

We count differently. In my book, nobody won. There are only losers when people turn to violence.

"People" didn't turn to violence. One man "turned to violence", and the older man defended himself.

You're spouting tired, leftist platitudes.

When one party "turns to violence", you can either choose to defend yourself, or to become a punching bag. The man clearly tried to defuse the situation by moving to the other end of the bus. He had no moral duty to sit there while the other man hit him.

When one party "turns to violence" and others allow it to continue, unchecked, then you have oppression by force. (See: Nazi Germany, WWII...)

[Trailerpark Badass]

There are only losers when people turn to violence.

You sound like a dukakis.