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Do more teachers make for smarter students?
The Cato Institute ^ | 2/17/2010 | Neal McClusky

Posted on 02/18/2010 11:03:51 PM PST by ledzep

Looking at decades of achievement data one can’t help but conclude that keeping teacher jobs at all costs truly isn’t about the kids, but the adults either employed in education, or trying to get the votes of those employed in education. As the following chart makes clear, we have added teachers in droves for decades without improving ultimate achievement at all...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: education; publicschool; teachers
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1 posted on 02/18/2010 11:03:51 PM PST by ledzep
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To: ledzep

Too many cooks spoil the broth?


2 posted on 02/18/2010 11:05:00 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: ledzep

Do more cowboys make for a juicier steak?


3 posted on 02/18/2010 11:08:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2 million for Sarah Palin: What will you do?)
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To: ledzep
Of course, just like more gun control creates less crime
4 posted on 02/18/2010 11:14:36 PM PST by woodro43
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To: ledzep

I would love to see the chart go back before 1970 when large classes and long school days were the normal school plans.

I am afraid this chart is choosing a base that does not show that all the levels are lower than earlier years.

This begins with the advent of new math and the end of phonics. It is also at a time that Unions began to fully take over the school systems.


5 posted on 02/18/2010 11:15:48 PM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: HiTech RedNeck

No. It has to do with student expectations on the value of their labor. That hasn’t changed. If you can read OK, or even less than OK, you can still pass. It doesn’t matter what the student/teacher ratio is. If the students have no fear (or love), they will do just enough to pass. Doesn’t matter if there are 20 or 40 students in the class.


6 posted on 02/18/2010 11:31:25 PM PST by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: ledzep

Does more spending result in lower deficits?


7 posted on 02/19/2010 12:58:16 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: ledzep
I heard some figures on TV about the Ft Worth Independent School District a while back that staggered me. In this particular news segment they claimed that FWISD had 88,000 employees, 170,000 students and over 400 facilities. Of course the news segment was about a budget short fall and how much property taxes would have to go up to support the system.

Can you imagine how much money it takes out of the tax payers pockets to have one employee for every two students. 400 buildings that require maintenance and thousands of big yellow buses that start up every day burning millions of gallons of gas/diesel and polluting the air we breathe.

I am of the opinion that the public school system is sucking the very life out of the Texas economy and, as the author says, is nothing more than a make work project to keep demoRat voters employed.

8 posted on 02/19/2010 1:10:40 AM PST by Texas Jack
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To: ledzep

When I went to grade school in the 1960’s my school had 16 classrooms (2 for each grade level) and each classroom had one teacher and 50 students. We all learned really well and could far out perform most of the high school graduates today when it comes to basic reading, writing, and math. Most primary & secondary classrooms today have 30 students or less and many have a teacher and a teacher’s aide yet the mastery of basic skills is far below what used to be considered acceptable. Clearly the education system needs an overhaul!


9 posted on 02/19/2010 1:34:42 AM PST by Flamenco Lady
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To: ledzep

bump


10 posted on 02/19/2010 1:44:27 AM PST by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: Flamenco Lady

I am of the same era.

The real problem is that a teacher’s pay and promotion potential is based entirely upon their educational level. It has nothing to do with their ability to actually teach.

The only requirements for a REAL TEACHER are:

1. Intelligence (the ability to rationalize and think).
2. A good knowledge of the subject taught.
3. A working knowledge of everything associated with the subject they teach.

and finally...............

The ability to transpose that information from their brain to that of the students along with the ability to make them understand WHY they need that information.

Today’s teachers are nothing more than academic wonders simply parroting what they are told to teach from media from the Ministry of Propaganda, the green movement, NAMBLA, unions and many other special interest groups.

The majority of teachers today simply teach for the money and power involved.....not the love of teaching nor do they possess the real ability to teach as the teachers of our generation.


11 posted on 02/19/2010 3:52:18 AM PST by DH (The government writes no bill that does not line the pockets of special interests.)
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To: ledzep

It s not the number of teachers, but their quality that makes the difference for students. I am a college educator and used to substitute teach in my local school district. It was immediately apparent which classes had quality instruction and which were being taught by mediocre teachers. Sadly far more classes had mediocre instruction and good teaching was the exception.


12 posted on 02/19/2010 4:09:28 AM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money." M. Thatcher)
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