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A cautionary tale in healthcare reform [Mandates = Higher Premiums!!]
LA Times ^ | 02/21/10 | Noam N. Levey

Posted on 02/21/2010 9:22:31 AM PST by freespirited

Spurred by heart-wrenching stories of sick people denied health coverage, the state of New York did what many of President Obama's critics say he should do now -- it passed a relatively simple law requiring insurers to accept all applicants.

Other states have taken similar steps, making narrowly targeted changes instead of trying to overhaul their whole healthcare systems.

But two decades later, New York's experience offers a cautionary tale: Making isolated changes to the complex medical insurance system can have unwelcome consequences.

Premiums in New York are now the highest in the nation by some measures, with individual health coverage costing about $9,000 a year on average. And nearly one in seven New Yorkers still lacks health coverage, a greater proportion than before the law was passed.

The state has become a victim of a dangerous dynamic in insurance markets. Laws allowing consumers to buy insurance at any time often saddle companies with a lot of high-cost customers.

That in turn drives up premiums, pushing away younger, healthier people who are vital to a functioning insurance system.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: governmentmandate; healthcare; insurancereform; romney
What a shock.

/s

1 posted on 02/21/2010 9:22:31 AM PST by freespirited
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To: freespirited
The old phrase from the HillaryCare fiasco still applies.

"If you think healthcare is expensive now, just wait until it's 'free'."

2 posted on 02/21/2010 9:25:15 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (If the CIA and NASA are going to "monitor climate change", why the hell do we need the EPA?)
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To: freespirited

3 posted on 02/21/2010 9:31:10 AM PST by Leisler (What 'free market', where is it?)
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To: freespirited

***vital to a functioning insurance system.****

Actuarial science is not taught in the Ivy Leagues. The brilliant intellectuals in government have no appreciation of how insurance works.

How many auto insurance companies would issue a policy to fix damage that has already occurred?

Life & Health Insurance company products/reserves were so well constructed that for the better part of the 20th century, banks borrowed from them.


4 posted on 02/21/2010 9:40:31 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: freespirited

......pushing away younger, healthier people who are vital to a functioning insurance system.

Make the healthy pay for the sick.


5 posted on 02/21/2010 11:52:32 AM PST by the_daug
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To: freespirited
Says the page has gone AWOL. But I've read it. It's only blocked until 2011 and then goes into effect. We have a year to get it repealed. It's not fair or right to treat our retired Military like this. They'll need a third insurance to cover what TFL and Medicare will no longer cover.

We had our 6 month check ups (because of the meds we take) and a new sign was up in our doc's office, that IF Medicare was your only health ins, then you had to pay the difference UP FRONT before the doctor's visit. I can't blame the doctor, the re-imbursment barely covers his overhead cost. And they are talking about dropping it from 80% to 60%.

6 posted on 02/21/2010 12:06:23 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: GailA
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke.

Tennessee has joined several other states in trying to pass a Health Care Freedom Act. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military's secondary health ins. (DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011)

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake.

Obama's War on Seniors

Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security

http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Socialized Med Thread

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.)

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm

Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09

Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.

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The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.

Bambi doesn't keep his promises...so buyer beware.

7 posted on 02/21/2010 12:07:19 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: freespirited

“Premiums in New York are now the highest in the nation by some measures, with individual health coverage costing about $9,000 a year on average. And nearly one in seven New Yorkers still lacks health coverage, a greater proportion than before the law was passed.”

I pay over $12,000 a year for my family and I would rather pay that than have any more government involvement.
It is a joke. What they don;t tell you is that every dollar that has anything to do with health care in new york is taxed at 9%.

Ambulance ride, they tax.
Get an aspirin at the hospital 9%
major surgery, they get 9%
Doctors visit 9%

They are what is driving up the costs. But they complain that insurance companies are making far too much money. The insurance company makes anywhere from 1.5 - 3% profit from premiums.


8 posted on 02/22/2010 2:20:50 PM PST by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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