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Climate scientists withdraw journal claims of rising sea levels
guardian.co.uk ^ | Feb. 21, 2010 | David Adam

Posted on 02/21/2010 6:03:13 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY

Study claimed in 2009 that sea levels would rise by up to 82cm by the end of century – but the report's author now says true estimate is still unknown.

Scientists have been forced to withdraw a study on projected sea level rise due to global warming after finding mistakes that undermined the findings.

The study, published in 2009 in Nature Geoscience, one of the top journals in its field, confirmed the conclusions of the 2007 report from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). It used data over the last 22,000 years to predict that sea level would rise by between 7cm and 82cm by the end of the century.

At the time, Mark Siddall, from the Earth Sciences Department at the University of Bristol, said the study "strengthens the confidence with which one may interpret the IPCC results". The IPCC said that sea level would probably rise by 18cm-59cm by 2100, though stressed this was based on incomplete information about ice sheet melting and that the true rise could be higher.

Many scientists criticised the IPCC approach as too conservative, and several papers since have suggested that sea level could rise more. Martin Vermeer of the Helsinki University of Technology, Finland and Stefan Rahmstorf of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research in Germany published a study in December that projected a rise of 0.75m to 1.9m by 2100.

Siddall said that he did not know whether the retracted paper's estimate of sea level rise was an overestimate or an underestimate.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climategate; globalwarming

1 posted on 02/21/2010 6:03:13 PM PST by Free ThinkerNY
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Why do they even bother? No one is listening anymore. Those that believe in global warming, still believe it, have always ignored facts and will continue to do so. Those that don’t believe in global warming or don’t believe in it now, will never listen to these liars again, weather what they say is the truth or not.


2 posted on 02/21/2010 6:06:24 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; markomalley; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; Desdemona; ...
 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

3 posted on 02/21/2010 6:07:56 PM PST by steelyourfaith (FReepers were opposed to Obama even before it was cool to be against Obama.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Lol...


4 posted on 02/21/2010 6:09:28 PM PST by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: MsLady
They will continue to crank out this sh*t until the grant money runs out. That could be quite awhile.
5 posted on 02/21/2010 6:11:13 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

They should be sued for every dime they took from the tax payers and any money they have now they should be forced to return.


6 posted on 02/21/2010 6:13:20 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

And why the heck weren’t these liars fired???


7 posted on 02/21/2010 6:13:50 PM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
In the Nature Geoscience retraction, in which Siddall and his colleagues explain their errors, Vermeer and Rahmstorf are thanked for "bringing these issues to our attention".

I guess that's progress; at least Vermeer and Rahmstorf weren't labeled witches.

8 posted on 02/21/2010 6:14:31 PM PST by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The silence from the American State Run Media is deafening!


9 posted on 02/21/2010 6:17:48 PM PST by Roccus (POLITICIAN.....................a four letter word spelled with ten letters.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

10 posted on 02/21/2010 6:25:54 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Never mind!

11 posted on 02/21/2010 6:37:46 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina (Now with ConstructionCam! Click on my name and follow the progress.)
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To: southernnorthcarolina

We’re outnumbered by idiots. Good news anyway.


12 posted on 02/21/2010 6:45:43 PM PST by bicyclerepair (FR - my online family. From Ft. Lauderdale, Florida)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
"Modern science is a bullshit factory. Amount of papers, information is amazing BUT most of it is repeating itself BS. Why? Cause, scientists must publish to survive, keep his job, get funded in the future. Sure, one can publish a lot by doing superb cutting edge research every other week. But science is not a manufacturing plant. So, folks have chosen simpler ways to boost their paper counts. #1 the trick is to publish as many papers as one can based on a single modest result, or NO significant results whatsoever. Fraud, comes the second. "Massaging/forging data" sounds disgusting? Well, it doesn't if you want to keep your paycheck coming.."

Where is this from?..the site of the missing scientist out of Ottawa, NRC Canadian Neutron Beam Centre-Lachlan Cranswick.

http://lachlan.bluehaze.com.au/nanoshite/index.html andSudden disappearance of Deep River scientist mystifies colleagues

Have been researching Lachlan's site all night. Interesting. Different science but same MO- politics, science and money.

13 posted on 02/21/2010 7:01:37 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Free ThinkerNY

and the RATS, take another one in the..............................HA ha!!!

14 posted on 02/21/2010 7:48:10 PM PST by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: steelyourfaith

Buy Maldive Island stamps before it disappears. Good investment portfolio coming for disappearing islands. Buy their stamps, currency and scenic photos for posterity.

NOT!


15 posted on 02/21/2010 8:02:32 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Free ThinkerNY

BTTT!


16 posted on 02/21/2010 8:22:57 PM PST by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Gorsh! Them thar peer-reviewers must o’ missed them lil ol’ bitty mistakes, hey?


17 posted on 02/21/2010 9:26:12 PM PST by catnipman
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To: Free ThinkerNY

*Bang! Bang! Bang!*

Hello American media!?

*Bang! Bang! Bang!*

I think there is a big story here you’re being scooped on!

What you don’t care??????


18 posted on 02/21/2010 10:54:29 PM PST by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: MsLady

It’s the Obama Factor. The sea levels stopped rising once he was elected, just as he prophesied.


19 posted on 02/21/2010 11:04:42 PM PST by Carling (My Mom said if you have nothing good to say ... um ... I think my Mom was wrong on that one.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Seems that the main criticism was that the estimate was too conservative and that sea levels were to raise even higher!


20 posted on 02/21/2010 11:08:39 PM PST by CedarDave (Contrasts: Obama -Teleprompter to talk at a school. Palin - Six words on palm to talk to nation)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

But the science is settled last I heard ... /s


21 posted on 02/22/2010 12:32:05 AM PST by cranked
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To: MsLady

**No one is listening anymore.**

Unfortunately, the idiots in DC, including the EPA still listen and Believe everything told to them by ALBORE.


22 posted on 02/22/2010 7:02:24 AM PST by gwilhelm56 (OBAMA ... Orwell's 1984 was a WARNING ... NOT a TEXTBOOK!!!)
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To: gwilhelm56

I think some of them can’t bring themselves to believe global warming isn’t true. Part of it is, they have been so brain washed by the many years of lies. Part of it is that pride thing. Nobody likes to admit they were wrong, or were made a fool of.


23 posted on 02/22/2010 7:36:46 AM PST by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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To: MsLady
I think some of them can’t bring themselves to believe global warming isn’t true.

Think of it as a religion. It is their way to "matter". Just imagine if someone came along and presented evidence that your religion was based on lies - you'd vehemently reject the evidence until it became undeniable.

24 posted on 02/22/2010 7:39:14 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

A great article from 2008 by a scientist showing that, assuming global warming is true, it would still take at least 3000 years for the sea levels to rise to a dangerous height, not 100:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/01/will_the_ice_caps_melt.html

(warning: some heavy math for the non-scientifically inclined, like me!)


25 posted on 02/22/2010 8:05:56 AM PST by Deo volente (January 19, 2010...the Second American Revolution begins, right where it all started!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
It has been a cold winter!

I need more HOT AIR from these folks. I am turning blue from all of this cold weather.

That is one good thing these idiots are doing -- they are generating lots and lots of Hot Air!

26 posted on 02/22/2010 8:33:43 AM PST by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: fight_truth_decay; SunkenCiv; Nachum
>>>>>

"Modern science is a bullshit factory. Amount of papers, information is amazing BUT most of it is repeating itself BS. Why? Cause, scientists must publish to survive, keep his job, get funded in the future. Sure, one can publish a lot by doing superb cutting edge research every other week. But science is not a manufacturing plant. So, folks have chosen simpler ways to boost their paper counts. #1 the trick is to publish as many papers as one can based on a single modest result, or NO significant results whatsoever. Fraud, comes the second. "Massaging/forging data" sounds disgusting? Well, it doesn't if you want to keep your paycheck coming...."

<<<<<

>>> Where is this from? ...the site of the missing scientist out of Ottawa, NRC Canadian Neutron Beam Centre - [Dr.] Lachlan Cranswick.

http://lachlan.bluehaze.com.au/nanoshite/index.html and Sudden disappearance of Deep River scientist mystifies colleagues

Have been researching Lachlan's site all night. Interesting. Different science but same MO - politics, science and money." <<<

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Hello "Fight_Truth_Decay".

It's even worse at university because one has to adhere strictly to all the worldviews held by those who hold the GRANT MONEY - grant dollars have controlled university research departments in the USA for many many many decades. It's all about the money, follow the money; but if you choose not to play by the game rules, or at least appear to be playing in Their Big Money Casino, you'll never be published again. Sure, one or two 'wild' cards every once in a while, now & again, is fine, but scientists who are seriously philosophically inclined can't abide this forever. The real power status quo must be maintained at all times. Do you believe that Lachlan Cranswick has perhaps gone "off grid" - left of his own accord & inclination, entirely disinclined to play Their Game, anymore?

27 posted on 03/02/2010 4:43:19 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: nw_arizona_granny

*ping*


28 posted on 03/02/2010 8:25:20 AM PST by hennie pennie
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To: hennie pennie

Good news.


29 posted on 03/02/2010 8:37:17 AM PST by nw_arizona_granny ( garden/survival/cooking/storage- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2299939/posts?page=5555)
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