Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Snitch in Your Pocket (Tracking Americans' Cell Phones in Real Time— Without a Warrant)
Newsweek ^ | 2/19/10 | Michael Isikoff

Posted on 02/22/2010 12:29:24 PM PST by nickcarraway

Law enforcement is tracking Americans' cell phones in real time—without the benefit of a warrant.

Amid all the furor over the Bush administration's warrantless wiretapping program a few years ago, a mini-revolt was brewing over another type of federal snooping that was getting no public attention at all. Federal prosecutors were seeking what seemed to be unusually sensitive records: internal data from telecommunications companies that showed the locations of their customers' cell phones—sometimes in real time, sometimes after the fact. The prosecutors said they needed the records to trace the movements of suspected drug traffickers, human smugglers, even corrupt public officials. But many federal magistrates—whose job is to sign off on search warrants and handle other routine court duties—were spooked by the requests. Some in New York, Pennsylvania, and Texas balked. Prosecutors "were using the cell phone as a surreptitious tracking device," said Stephen W. Smith, a federal magistrate in Houston. "And I started asking the U.S. Attorney's Office, 'What is the legal authority for this? What is the legal standard for getting this information?' "

Those questions are now at the core of a constitutional clash between President Obama's Justice Department and civil libertarians alarmed by what they see as the government's relentless intrusion into the private lives of citizens. There are numerous other fronts in the privacy wars—about the content of e-mails, for instance, and access to bank records and credit-card transactions. The Feds now can quietly get all that information. But cell-phone tracking is among the more unsettling forms of government surveillance, conjuring up Orwellian images of Big Brother secretly following your movements through the small device in your pocket.

How many of the owners of the country's 277 million cell phones even know that companies like AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint can track their devices in real time?

(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 4thamendment; bigbrother; cellphones
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-52 next last

1 posted on 02/22/2010 12:29:24 PM PST by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Maybe this is why they are giving out free cell phones. All the better to hear you with, my dear!


2 posted on 02/22/2010 12:30:50 PM PST by ilovesarah2012
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

I do believe that you have the option to turn that feature off.


3 posted on 02/22/2010 12:31:27 PM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

I am typically VERY pro-law enforcement. But, why not just get a warrant?

SnakeDoc


4 posted on 02/22/2010 12:33:07 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Do you know if the hotel is pager friendly? [...] I'm not getting a sig on my beeper.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

If you’re still under the impression that the phone can’t eavesdrop and know where you are even when the thing has been turned “off”, I want you to send me money to take advantage of a great investment opportunity.


5 posted on 02/22/2010 12:33:53 PM PST by swarthyguy (-Pillgarlick-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

and log every website you visited in the last 2 years


6 posted on 02/22/2010 12:34:48 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

IF this had happened when Pres Bush was in office,
the networks would interrupt all programming with
BREAKING NEWS.

But the MSM only exists in 2010 to serve undocumented
Emperor Obama, and to defeat the people of the
United States of America.


7 posted on 02/22/2010 12:36:02 PM PST by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NY Attitude

>> I do believe that you have the option to turn that feature off.

There’s more than one kind of tracking by cell phone.

There’s the GPS built into some cell phones. I don’t have that feature, so I don’t know for sure, but I bet you CAN turn that off.

Then, there is a form of tracking — much coarser resolution — that relies on records of which cell the phone is within. That you can’t turn off, unless you keep the cell phone itself turned off. In which case it’s not really much of a cell phone.

But as soon as you turn it on to get your messages, whammo! You’re associated with a cell, and they know (about) where you are.


8 posted on 02/22/2010 12:36:43 PM PST by Nervous Tick (Eat more spinach! Make Green Jobs for America!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: NY Attitude

You can turn off the GPS in the phone. But they don’t need that to track you.

In order for a cell phone to work its location must be constantly updated so the system knows what cell tower to use in order to connect to your phone. They use that information to track you, not the GPS.

As a matter of fact, by using triangulation of your signal from several cell towers they can pin your location down to within yards just by using relative signal strength alone.

The only way to be secure when carrying a cell phone is to remove the battery.


9 posted on 02/22/2010 12:39:18 PM PST by Nik Naym (Hey Sarah, I luv ya, but stumping for McCain???)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: NY Attitude

>>I do believe that you have the option to turn that feature off.<<

Sort of.

If your phone is on, it is constantly searching the closest tower. When the tower receives a ping, it logs it. It knows the time, the IMSI (your phones “fingerprint”), your phone number, etc. And the information is saved - for how long I don’t know.

If you drive from Seattle to Chicago and your phone is on the whole time, there is a record of where you (your phone, that is) were, when, on the entire route.

And because this information is historical, law enforcement can literally go back in time. Again, how far I don’t know, but I suspect it is at least 6 months.


10 posted on 02/22/2010 12:39:29 PM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: NY Attitude

Have to pull out the battery.


11 posted on 02/22/2010 12:39:32 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

This is why I’ve never had a cellphone, and I don’t have one now, and won’t have one in the future.

If someone thinks it’s important enough to contact me, they can dial my land line number, and if I think the number I see on the Caller ID is important enough to answer and/or return the call, I will.


12 posted on 02/22/2010 12:39:34 PM PST by mkjessup (How do you spell 'real conservative' in Arizona? J.D. Hayworth !! - Flush McStain down the Drain!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but the approximate location of your cell phone can always be determined.

The only way that you can receive a phone call when you aren't in your "home cell" is that your phone sends a ping to each cell you enter to let the system know where to route any incoming calls.

You don't have to make a call from the new cell, your phone sends the ping on its own. Whether your phone has to be powered on, or just have the battery intact for this to happen, depends on the cell phone.

13 posted on 02/22/2010 12:39:44 PM PST by Washi
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: SnakeDoctor

>>I am typically VERY pro-law enforcement. But, why not just get a warrant?<<

I believe they use a subpoena to get the info.


14 posted on 02/22/2010 12:41:52 PM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Washi

I’ve heard this repeated by others, including Rush Limbaugh, but cannot find a single technical source to prove it. If you know of a cell phone that can communicate with the cell system even when turned off, would you please pass the information along? Thanks.


15 posted on 02/22/2010 12:42:12 PM PST by bigbob
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: mkjessup

This is why I’ve never had a cellphone, and I don’t have one now, and won’t have one in the future.

If someone thinks it’s important enough to contact me, they can dial my land line number, and if I think the number I see on the Caller ID is important enough to answer and/or return the call, I will.

All landline calls are tracked


16 posted on 02/22/2010 12:44:59 PM PST by Chickensoup (We have the government we deserve. Is our government our traitor?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: RobRoy

Could you turn off the cell access on a phone, and just use wifi?


17 posted on 02/22/2010 12:46:35 PM PST by nickcarraway
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Nervous Tick
You are absolutely correct. When I set up my phone, I made sure that the GPS tracking feature was turned off. Regarding being tracked when you use your cell by the nearest cell tower is a fact of life. As you said you can turn it off until you need it.
18 posted on 02/22/2010 12:46:58 PM PST by NY Attitude (Make love not war but be prepared for either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Chickensoup
All land line calls are tracked

So what?

That means that anyone wanting to locate me in real time needs to be reaaaallly lucky, or willing to wait outside the house. "All land line calls are tracked", now THAT is a 'NO DUH' statement if there ever was one, lol
19 posted on 02/22/2010 12:49:24 PM PST by mkjessup (How do you spell 'real conservative' in Arizona? J.D. Hayworth !! - Flush McStain down the Drain!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: nickcarraway

Someone should give the information on this thread to the Authors’ Guild. Fictional characters who don’t want their location known are still turning their cell phones off.


20 posted on 02/22/2010 12:50:55 PM PST by firebrand
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-52 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson