Posted on 02/22/2010 9:06:23 PM PST by DesertRenegade
California Young Americans for Freedom (YAF) chairman Ryan Sorba generated a media controversy when he was shown at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) denouncing the organizers for inviting a homosexual Republican group, GOProud, into the event as an official sponsor. In "controversial" remarks, Sorba said homosexuality was unnatural and that he welcomed more debate and discussion about the subject from his political adversaries.
But what many people don't realize is that Sorba's "outburst" was provoked by a speaker who preceded him, Alexander McCobin of Students For Liberty (SFL).
McCobin went out of his way to use valuable time from the podium to thank the American Conservative Union, the main CPAC organizer, for making the controversial decision to approve GOProud's participation.
David Keene, a lobbyist, is the chairman of the ACU and personally approved GOProud's involvement in CPAC.
Sorba told AIM, "I think CPAC went overboard this year. I don't think he [Keene] should be sitting at the top of CPAC." He noted that CPAC over the last several years has also allowed groups such as the ACLU to have exhibits at the event.
"What's next?," Sorba asked. "Are they going to have Republicans for Obamacare? Republicans for free abortions?"
Incredibly, McCobin of SFL told me that his group "is not a conservative organization" and that "We spent this past weekend reaching out to the left and the right at both the Young Democrats of America's convention and the Conservative Political Action Conference. We are not left or right."
If they are not conservative, Sorba asked, "What are they doing at CPAC?"
No stranger to controversy, Sorba is the author of the book, The Born Gay Hoax (this is a working draft) and was shouted down at Smith College by lesbian activists because of his support for traditional values.
Do you think that homosexuals should be prosecuted?
Do you think homosexuals should be imprisoned?
Do you think homosexuals should be castrated?
Do you think homosexuals should be shot?
How much government do you want?
“If they are not conservative, Sorba asked, “What are they doing at CPAC?”
It hasn’t stopped Mitt from going.
GOProud wouldn’t be a problem if Republicans didn’t invite them to “conservative” events, or acknowledge them at all. GOProud has every right to form. We can’t stop that.
good word.
I remember thetime they said they wanted to have their lives private and I thought don’t ask gave them that .
How times have changed.
I was giving more thought to your question and there was a homosexual over there and yet he never got more radical or in your face or nothing.
Here the difference I think.
Homosexuals were and are not as in your face or as intolerant as over here.
I think that is why they have made more progress than here.
Thew homosexual community have gone about it all wrong and it does seem that there is an element who tries to stir up that community for the money.
I.E. CA for instance, people voted against their agenda and then they picket outside their ice cream shop.
Acting like spoilt kids like they do is hurting their cause not helping and yet they don’t see that.
I want homosexuals to have no - none - zero - special rights, and the condition to be considered a mental illness as it was until the the homosexual activists bullied to get it off the list.
No homosexual marriage, adoptions, fostering, artificial insemination, Boy Scouts, teachers, in the military, counselors in schools, no homosexual agenda stuff taught in schools, no “sensitivty” etc training anywhere. No government money, not one penny, spent to further their agenda.
As to your list, no.
Unless they’re sodomizing each other in parks, hiking trails, public bathrooms, beaches and so on - then I want them prosecuted, as they are ruining many public places for other people.
Two points.
1. I don't want ANYONE preaching to my children.
2. As a long time member of FR (over 10 years) and one who remembers that people used to use the correct posting style, it offends me how liberal some people have become with posting style.
Call me an old FRuddy duddy, but the proper form when quoting someone is to put the quote in italics and then put your comments in standard font with a paragraph break. We used to have an html sandbox around here to teach everyone. It used to be frowned upon to use quote marks.
What is FR coming to with all this liberal use of anything-goes posting style!
(Side note: Anyone remember when we had to go in and switch off the html from a previous poster because they did not switch off the html?)
The Lawrence Decision:
Lawrence v. Texas, 539 U.S. 558 (2003),[1] was a landmark United States Supreme Court case. In the 6-3 ruling, the justices struck down the sodomy law in Texas. The court had previously addressed the same issue in 1986 in Bowers v. Hardwick, where it upheld a challenged Georgia statute, not finding a constitutional protection of sexual privacy.
Lawrence explicitly overruled Bowers, holding that it had viewed the liberty interest too narrowly. The majority held that intimate consensual sexual conduct was part of the liberty protected by substantive due process under the Fourteenth Amendment. Lawrence has the effect of invalidating similar laws throughout the United States that purport to criminalize sodomy between consenting same-sex adults acting in private. It also invalidated the application of sodomy laws to heterosexual sex.[citation needed]
The case attracted much public attention, and a large number of amici curiae (”friends of the court”) briefs were filed. Its outcome was celebrated by gay rights advocates, who hoped that further legal advances might result as a consequence.
Show me that stats.
The tyranny of the minority, imho.
I’m not your secretary.
>Once the hazard was known, steps can be and were taken to mitigate the hazard.<
Your responses continue to show a real commitment to minimizing the homosexual movement and its effect, and when playing football is implicated in the death of millions in 40 years, because they but the gas pump in the exhaust pipe of the team bus, and such forms a special PAC which advocates multitude positions which are contrary to conservatism, then post back. till then give it up or change.
> The fact is, you cannot perfect humanity by passing laws. That has been religion’s greatest mistake since first achieving power under Constantine<
More sophistry. No, laws themselves do not perfect humanity, and i certainly did not posit they do. But laws rightly require a moral standard for man, unless you like banks who are exempt, and restrains those who do not want to do what it right. The RCC was wrong in taking upon the sword of men, (2Cor. 10:4-6) as that prerogative is given to Caesar, (1Pt. 2:13-14) but that is not what Christians are seeking to do, and an animosity against Christians trying to contend for righteousness by words and votes mean means favoring a contrary ideology.
“William F. Buckley defined it as conservative vs. Conservative.”
Funny that you mention Buckley, because he was adamant about kicking kooks like the Birchers out of the GOP. Addition by subtraction. I don’t think anybody is kicking the PaulNuts out. They will self-deselect likely due to their pacifist liberal views.
“My view of current events and movements is that there are few that are truly conservative. Reagan conservatism defines the current conservative movement in the GOP. Three pillars, economic, social and nationala security.
Paulists are only one pillar economic. There not conservatives. They are conservative economically but pacifist Leftists on national security.
Doctors have been sued or charged criminally - can’t remember which, I think there have been several cases, for refusing to artificially inseminate lesbians.
I am not talking do it yourselfers. I’m talking legally forcing doctors to participate. It should be illegal for any homosexual to demand the medical profession to cater to their mental illness and condemn a child to growing up in such an atmosphere.
Scum asked me the same questions. Here was my answer:
I want homosexuals to have no - none - zero - special rights, and the condition to be considered a mental illness as it was until the the homosexual activists bullied to get it off the list.
No homosexual marriage, adoptions, fostering, artificial insemination, Boy Scouts, teachers, in the military, counselors in schools, no homosexual agenda stuff taught in schools, no “sensitivty” etc training anywhere. No government money, not one penny, spent to further their agenda.
As to your list, no.
Unless they’re sodomizing each other in parks, hiking trails, public bathrooms, beaches and so on - then I want them prosecuted, as they are ruining many public places for other people.
I agree with that entirely.
Government should not be involved and we should get government out of it.
You understand rightly.
but it is doing those things and that is why it is no use sitting on the side as those on the side are only helping the perverts to further their agenda
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