Obama Stays On Offense With Health-Care Proposal [Obama "To Go Big One Last Time"]

Washington Post ^ | February 22, 2010 | Anne E. Kornblut and Michael D. Shear

[Steelfish]

Obama Stays On Offense With Health-Care Proposal

By Anne E. Kornblut and Michael D. Shear February 23, 2010

There had been rampant speculation that the White House would narrow its ambitions for health-care legislation after the loss of the Democrats' filibuster-proof Senate majority last month. Instead, the president's proposal is striking for the extent to which it hews to the basic scale and framework of the bills on which Congress has toiled for months.

That decision -- to go big one last time, rather than small -- emerged quickly inside the White House after senior advisers to President Obama concluded privately that his goals for comprehensive changes to the health-care system could not be done piecemeal.

And after initially reeling from the surprise election of Republican Scott Brown to the Senate in Massachusetts, Obama's chief political strategists came to believe that voters would punish Democrats more severely in this year's elections for failing to try, they said.

"This is a big, long-term threat to families, businesses and the solvency of the country," senior adviser David Axelrod said, describing the thinking inside the West Wing. "And we've come a long way. And this is an opportunity to try and complete it and deal with a problem that we know is only going to get worse."

[FlingWingFlyer]

I find ObamaCare very offensive.

[unkus]

The Evil bastard won’t give in and we’d better understand that.

[Dilbert San Diego]

And now the news has leaked out that they are going to use the “nuclear option” of reconciliation in the Senate to bypass a filibuster.

Yep that will work wonders to improve the political discourse won’t it? (sarcasm)

So they will have the dog and pony show on Thursday, claim to be reaching out for bi-partisan legislation, then shove through whatever the heck they want to do anyway.

Great (sarcasm again)

[NoRedTape]

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DO NOT WANT ANYTHING oBAMA DREAMS-UP RELATING TO HEALTH (OR ANY OTHER ISSUE, HONESTLY).

WHAT IS UNCLEAR ABOUT THAT?

 

[Huskrrrr]

With a -19 approval index (and falling)...bring it on chump!

[HiTech RedNeck]

Bummer imagines himself bright enough to come up with something, anything, that can herd enough cats in both the Senate and House to even garner bare majority votes.

Bummer can’t, and the reason is the A-word. Abortion. Tone deaf on most things, Bummer is even tone deafer on this. Blue, Brown, Black, and Yellow Dogs will all go running. We’ll be looking at maybe 150 votes in the House, 35 in the Senate.

[unkus]

They are inviting revolt.

I firmly beleive the USA is being set up for the greatest fall in history. Everything is either in place or about to be.

The Czars are quietly working behind the scenes.

[TigersEye]

All versions of Health Care Insurance Reform have one purpose and one purpose only. It is meant to undermine the Constitution and kill liberty.

Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

Congressman Anthony Weiner has said that health care is not a commodity. If it isn't a commodity then do doctors and nurses have rights? Assigning health care the status of a right makes health care workers slaves to that right who must serve it. On what ground could a health care worker refuse to provide their products and services since that would violate the patient's "basic human right to health care."

That is a direct loss of individual rights for health care providers. The collective right of the people to receive health care would supersede the provider's individual right to set fees and hours or to change their occupational status or even decide how to apply their skills and knowledge if taken to its logical extreme. A collective right, by practical definition, is a state right because it is a right that is created and given by the government to those it chooses to give it to. It is not a natural right possessed by each person protected by the Constitution from the government. It is also a collective/state right by virtue of the fact that it would supersede individual rights when the two come into conflict. How else would the government view a right that it created and administers vs. one it has no control over?

Of course it isn't stated in any bill that a patient's right to care supersedes a provider's right to set fees and hours etc, but it doesn't need to. Rights, as always, are adjudicated in the courts. The Health Care Reform bills simply establish the foundation for the courts to rule in favor of the collective right.

Weiner’s view is collectivist, fascist and totalitarian. Collectivist because it has to be described as being a right of the many instead of the one and superior due to that fact. Fascist because ultimately the sole authority for its creation and oversight is from one entity the Federal government. Totalitarian because the Federal government is the enforcer of this collective right as well. State and local jurisdictions will have little say about it.

Congressman Weiner's view is the underlying philosophy of all of the Health Care Reform legislation in the House and Senate. Consider this section in the Senate version of the bill; the setting up of community watch dogs that will monitor citizens for various health parameters. Read pages 382 - 393.

TITLE I—QUALITY, AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE FOR ALL AMERICANS pps 382 - 393

So, even citizens themselves will be subject to Federal regulations on their behavior in order to fulfill the "human right" of universal health care. It isn't the individual's liberty that is being protected by that it is the government's control over its own health care system that is being guarded. How much clearer can it be that these bills abrogate the concept of individual rights? Someone will be checking your lifestyle, according to gov regulations, to be certain you serve the best interests of the "basic human right to health care" ie. "the Public Option."

HCR is not just about rationing care and wealth redistribution. It's about the end of individual rights as the corrosive effects of the new collectivist "basic human right to health care" spreads throughout the legal and political systems like a virus.

I think that the main purpose of Health Care Reform (HCR) is as a direct assault on individual liberties.

Health Care is a Liberty Issue
Conservative Underground - 18 August 2009 - Tim Dunkin

Another Stupid Argument: Heath Care is a Right

Involuntary Medical Servitude

Obama's Authoritarian, Unconstitutional Health Care Proposal

Defining A Right In America

To Americans Who Believe Healthcare is a Right

OBAMA: HEALTH CARE DESTROYING FREE SPEECH

Mandated health insurance threatens freedom, privacy

Second Bill of Rights aka FDR's economic bill of rights
(An early attempt to embed collective rights into American politics and society.)

[HiTech RedNeck]

The Bummer’s ego can’t stand what it has received thus far.

So Bummer pulls out every damned stop he can, uses every cent of political capital he can beg, borrow, or steal, to get what? At the most optimistic? A runt law that cannot get Bummercare rolling at all because many key features are missing. That is, if it doesn’t get Amendibustered by the Republicans on the way.

[freekitty]

Incredible. They just lie, lie and lie. What great role models they are.

[unkus]

There is already rising opposition by Attorneys-General in many states, the people won’t comply, pending law suites, etc. The marxist is in for a surprise.

You’re right, the Kenyan is likely to need a psychiatrist pretty soon .

[Pikachu_Dad]

Indeed.

They can’t kill 25 million of us until we revolt...

[JoSixChip]

This is almost too brazen, even for obumber. More taxes, more control, funding abortion, covers illegal aliens, more data mining, something is going on. I feel it in my gut and I fear we are all being sucked in.

[April Lexington]

Axilslob, Tinker Rahm and their sock puppet are looking a bit desperate lately. Wonder what the killer Billy is up to these days. Very quiet in rich, white liberal Chi Town lately...

[HiTech RedNeck]

Bummer is a puppet, not a person. Bummer’s “soul” is the society of czars that writes for the teleprompter. Of course we see all manner of off the wall ideas. It’s going to be ugly, but if anything is needed to outrage a complacent America back into action, perhaps this is.

[riri]

something is going on. I feel it in my gut and I fear we are all being sucked in.

It's getting a little difficult to try and convince yourself this is just politics as usual.

[timetostand]

It’s getting a little difficult to try and convince yourself this is just politics as usual.<<<<

I get a very uneasy feeling about all of this especially the part the republicans are playing. The American people have said no. But the commies keep on coming something is seriously wrong here!

[beagleone]

i think the democrats are in denial. Unless the republicans badly handle this, its going down in flames.

[grobdriver]

Unless the republicans badly handle this

Guaran-damn-teed.