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US Navy lifts ban on women in submarines: officials
AFP ^ | 2/23/2010 | AFP

Posted on 02/23/2010 4:37:04 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld

The US navy has decided to allow women to serve on submarines, Pentagon officials said on Tuesday, ending one of the last all-male bastions in the American military.

Defense Secretary Robert Gates approved the recommendation and sent letters to Congress on Monday informing lawmakers of the plan, officials said.

Navy Secretary Ray Mabus and Admiral Gary Roughead, chief of naval operations, had briefed Gates on the change and "he's endorsed it and sent it on to Congress," press secretary Geoff Morrell told reporters.

Lawmakers have 30 days to comment on the move before it goes into effect, officials said.

American women can already serve on the Navy's fleet of warships and fly fighter aircraft but nuclear-powered subs have remained off limits.

US naval officers previously cited the extremely tight quarters of a submarine as the main reason for the prohibition, but those who favor lifting the ban say subs could be outfitted with separate berths and bathrooms.

The decision calls for "a phased approach to assigning women on submarines," said a defense official, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

One option under consideration would to first allow female officers to serve on submarines, the official told AFP.

That approach would involve less sweeping change as officers already have separate quarters from enlisted service members, the official said.

The first group of female officers selected for the duty would have to attend special training for submarines and for nuclear-powered vessels that takes more than a year, the official added.

Top military officer Admiral Mike Mullen first called for the change in written testimony to Congress last year, saying he wanted to "continue to broaden opportunities for women" in the armed forces.

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To: sonofstrangelove

This policy exemplifies radical social tinkering at its worst. Perhaps, if enough qualified women apply for the gig, the Navy might consider an all female crew; a women’s sub. Women are highly competent, intelligent, competitive, and sufficiently mean as warriors. However, the mixing of males and females in that confined domain is obviously foolish. Think about other dubious mixes: cigars & gasoline, cats & dogs, Whiskey & machinery. We cannot afford to experiment with a potent and crucial leg of our defensive triad. The submarine force is not a college dorm. It must remain in highly effective operational status. This idea is FUBAR.


41 posted on 02/23/2010 4:54:28 PM PST by CharlesThe Hammer
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To: TADSLOS

Or he wanted to women opportunities for broads.


42 posted on 02/23/2010 4:54:30 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: oyez

MABUS!!!!!


43 posted on 02/23/2010 4:54:59 PM PST by ichabod1 ( I am rolling over in my grave and I am not even dead yet.)
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To: wardaddy

Well what do you expect from this crew? They think that corporations exist only to employ people. Profits? Evil! Shareholders? Greedy!


44 posted on 02/23/2010 4:56:19 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: SubmarineNuke

“The only thing that can cure this country is a meteor, the plague, or something unthinkable.”

Actually if the unthinkable was to happen covering the 30 mile radius encompassing DC, the rest of this country might survive. Make Calif. part of Mexico of course.


45 posted on 02/23/2010 4:57:11 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT 2006; now living north of Tampa Bay)
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To: sonofstrangelove

More social experiments putting our national security at risk. Combat effectiveness?....Bah, humbug.


46 posted on 02/23/2010 4:57:32 PM PST by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: GenXteacher

I agree with you.


47 posted on 02/23/2010 4:58:07 PM PST by ErnstStavroBlofeld ("I have learned to use the word "impossible" with the greatest caution."-Dr.Wernher Von Braun)
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To: OldDeckHand
Mabus had a two year naval career. He must have been a 40-day wonder or maybe out on a hardship.

He was in to late to be part of the McNamara program. ;->

48 posted on 02/23/2010 5:00:27 PM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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To: RinaseaofDs

Whatever it takes, OBOZO is out to destroy AMERICA! Its Healthcare! Its Military! Its Industry! Its International Trade! Its Infrastructure! Its Christian Citizens! Its Financial Institutions! Its Cultural Heritage! ITs HISTORY! You Name, OBOZO is out to Destroy IT!
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49 posted on 02/23/2010 5:02:34 PM PST by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Great President George W. Bush!!)
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To: mc5cents

Oh, and to pay taxes! Forgot the big one.


50 posted on 02/23/2010 5:02:43 PM PST by mc5cents
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To: babygene

remember those Navy docs go to sea before they have completed their internship....


51 posted on 02/23/2010 5:03:28 PM PST by pointsal ( try MagicJack if you have had enough of Verizon)
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To: wardaddy

Yep.....her going after a left handed smokebender will now be sexual harrassment.


52 posted on 02/23/2010 5:03:31 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: sonofstrangelove

http://www.military.com/news/article/destroyer-commander-canned.html?col=1186032325324&ESRC=navy.nl


53 posted on 02/23/2010 5:04:07 PM PST by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Combat Economist.)
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To: ichabod1

a poor example of a Mississippian


54 posted on 02/23/2010 5:04:32 PM PST by wardaddy (Epic Beard Man sez: "If you think cops are pigs next time you need help call an amber lamps")
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To: SubmarineNuke

I agree.


55 posted on 02/23/2010 5:05:45 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: oyez
"He must have been a 40-day wonder or maybe out on a hardship."

Something doesn't smell right, there. Entered service during the height of the Vietnam war, never sets a foot in-country, yet only serves 24 months and leaves a JG. Not possible.

56 posted on 02/23/2010 5:08:05 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: sonofstrangelove

Is there going to be a MILE BELOW club?


57 posted on 02/23/2010 5:11:30 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: RinaseaofDs
The Hollywood Navy has had women on subs for more than ten years.


58 posted on 02/23/2010 5:12:21 PM PST by oyez ( damnant quod non intelligunt)
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Feminism is evil. Men and women are not exactly the same, not interchangeable, cannot perform the same, and unless they are homosexuals, stuffing men and women together in close quarters like that is insane. And if there are any homosexuals added to the mixture, it's even more insane.

Leftism pretends there is no Natural Law, that they can make up the rules as though they're the rulers of the universe. But this will come back and bite us all, and in a sense, the sooner the better. Then life can again be based on natural laws and moral absolutes (and how about simple common sense????).

59 posted on 02/23/2010 5:12:38 PM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: sonofstrangelove

“hot bunking” indeed. I know a vet who served 14years on subs and he warns of the problems this will cause.


60 posted on 02/23/2010 5:15:32 PM PST by daniel1212 ("Whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved")
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