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Congress to dump Obama NASA plan
Flight Global ^ | 2-25-10 | Rob Coppinger

Posted on 02/25/2010 11:16:41 AM PST by Species8472

White House plans to axe NASA's return-to-the-Moon Constellation programme and ground the Space Shuttle have sparked unified opposition from Congress, which looks determined to preserve a full spectrum of US manned spaceflight activities.

A draft Congressional bill leaked to Flight International sets out the politicians' alternate plan. It involves possibly extending Shuttle life to 2015, running competitive commercial crew and cargo programmes and continuing development of Constellation's vehicles including a heavylift rocket designed to get astronauts to the Moon in the 2020s and then Mars.

senator Bill Nelson of Florida says of the opposition to the Obama plan: "I have never seen [Congress] as unified as we are now."

(Excerpt) Read more at flightglobal.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: congress; nasa; obama; space
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Wobbling on one foot deciding to take a giant leap forward or backwards for mankind!
1 posted on 02/25/2010 11:16:42 AM PST by Species8472
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To: Species8472
This is one occasion since 0bama took power, when congress is doing the right thing, and sending the communist destroyer of America packing.
2 posted on 02/25/2010 11:18:31 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: Species8472; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The list, ping


3 posted on 02/25/2010 11:18:50 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Species8472
Congress to dump ObamaNASA plan. |
4 posted on 02/25/2010 11:19:25 AM PST by pallis
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To: Species8472

Bill Nelson is a POS who needs to be voted out. Stupid hayseed phony arse***e. He is a big global warming liar.


5 posted on 02/25/2010 11:19:37 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Species8472

They start opposing Obama and they might find their
constituants like it.


6 posted on 02/25/2010 11:20:09 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Species8472

If this happens, and Congress does overrule the Marxist in Chief, I’ll be totally shocked... in a good way.


7 posted on 02/25/2010 11:24:50 AM PST by brownsfan (The average American: Uninformed, and unconcerned.)
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To: Species8472

Best news I’ve heard all day.


8 posted on 02/25/2010 11:25:46 AM PST by GL of Sector 2814
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To: Species8472; KevinDavis

bump

I thought Congress might have second thoughts on this


9 posted on 02/25/2010 11:26:44 AM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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To: Frantzie

You’re right about nelson but he’s fighting for jobs in his state on this one.

As a former astronaut he also probably really believes in the program as well.


10 posted on 02/25/2010 11:29:21 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Frantzie

He’s retiring.


11 posted on 02/25/2010 11:30:16 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Species8472
White House plans to axe NASA's return-to-the-Moon Constellation programme...

Axe it? or Ax it? or Ask it?

12 posted on 02/25/2010 11:30:20 AM PST by C210N (A government big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have)
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To: Species8472

Which goes to show that Congress is incapable of cutting any government program in any department or agency in existence.


13 posted on 02/25/2010 11:34:22 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Species8472
Wonder if they will address Using NASA as an outreach to Muslims
14 posted on 02/25/2010 11:34:45 AM PST by opentalk
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To: skr

Huh? Bill Nelson of FL is retiring? I did not hear that. He needs to be tarred and feathered.


15 posted on 02/25/2010 11:35:01 AM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: Species8472

watch for it...full-scale Dummycrat mutiny against Barry is imminent....


16 posted on 02/25/2010 11:35:47 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Species8472

Obama finally managed to bring everyone together... AGAINST HIM !

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


17 posted on 02/25/2010 11:39:40 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (November is coming.)
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To: KevinDavis

Ping


18 posted on 02/25/2010 11:40:19 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: C210N

Now he’s picking a fight with NASA too.


19 posted on 02/25/2010 11:40:44 AM PST by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: SmokingJoe

It’d be nice if he was the one packing to go to the Moon (or Mars)

I only wish they could hurry up and send him there though...2015 is too far away.


20 posted on 02/25/2010 11:45:25 AM PST by Lucky9teen (The cowards are very very concerned that someone might notice that they are cowards.)
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To: Frantzie

Rubio, McCollum and Crist are running for Nelson’s seat on the Republican side.


21 posted on 02/25/2010 11:56:12 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Species8472
Senator Bill Nelson of Florida says of the opposition to the Obama plan: "I have never seen [Congress] as unified as we are now."

See that. Obama IS a unifier. We are unified against his stupid ideas.

22 posted on 02/25/2010 11:56:16 AM PST by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: Species8472
space bump


23 posted on 02/25/2010 11:57:43 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Which goes to show that Congress is incapable of cutting any government program in any department or agency in existence.

I agree with you.

24 posted on 02/25/2010 11:59:28 AM PST by reaganaut1
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To: Species8472

Good for Congress. They need to kick this imposter right where it hurts.


25 posted on 02/25/2010 12:00:14 PM PST by thethirddegree
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To: Species8472

Good for them! I hope they get rid of his special plan to “share” our space technology with Muslim countries, too.


26 posted on 02/25/2010 12:00:44 PM PST by livius
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To: livius

Reinstate the F22 as well.


27 posted on 02/25/2010 12:03:54 PM PST by spokeshave (Blaming a gun for a crime is like blaming a carpenter's hammer for a shoddy construction job!")
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To: thethirddegree

And if the usurper veto’s, congress with all unified will easily override that veto. HA


28 posted on 02/25/2010 12:20:33 PM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: SmokingJoe

“This is one occasion since 0bama took power, when congress is doing the right thing...”

Assuming they are not just posturing... House passes Bill, sends to Senate, where the Bill never comes out of committee, or if it does the funds are slashed to a level that makes no practical difference to the continued life of US manned space program. But hey, they all voted for the program and demonstrated their “unwavering commitment”...


29 posted on 02/25/2010 12:22:27 PM PST by PIF
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To: spokeshave

Reinstate the F22 as well.

And bring back the F1 Saturn V motor!


30 posted on 02/25/2010 12:24:52 PM PST by PIF
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To: kidd

I am lost. We know we are broke. We want government spending to be reduced. Yet people here want to blow billions on stuff that we have already done ( been to the Moon— Done that) and go around and round to nowhere with another politically correct crew. We are out of money. Shut it down.


31 posted on 02/25/2010 12:29:42 PM PST by rogertarp
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To: rogertarp
I am lost.

You should fee lost. There is a lot of rah rah cheerleading on FR for things that don't actually make any sense. A lot of the reason that the scientific community oposes manned spaceflight is that they believe it to be an extravagant stunt that drastically cuts into resources to put useful scientific instruments into space.

32 posted on 02/25/2010 12:40:50 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: rogertarp

What you are ignoring is ROI. The monies spent on the manned space program have come back to our society (and arguably, the whole world) in new technologies. These led to new products....which meant new markets, new companies, new industries, countless jobs.

No, NASA (in its heyday, at least) was one hell of a good investment. I’m all for cutting a HUGE number of Federal agencies....but a reinvigorated NASA should be very well funded.


33 posted on 02/25/2010 12:43:38 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: AndyJackson

good points. Thanks


34 posted on 02/25/2010 12:43:57 PM PST by rogertarp
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To: PIF

Cookies & ice cream for everyone. The country is broke. Until you boot out illegals by cutting of benefits and have domestic energy production then we cannot afford any of this.


35 posted on 02/25/2010 12:44:09 PM PST by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: rogertarp

The continuous power of America achieving these feats makes us a superpower and a serious nation to contend with if you’re another country. It is also American Pride.


36 posted on 02/25/2010 12:48:31 PM PST by U.S. Army Retired
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To: RightOnline

I can’t think of any contribution to my life in the last 20 years of Nasa and the Trillion we spent there.The Federal government should provide for a lethal military force to annihilate any enemy crossing our borders . That’s it. All else reverts to the state or the individual. We don’t need them in educating, providing transfer payments or Nasa.


37 posted on 02/25/2010 12:51:39 PM PST by rogertarp
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To: skr
Actually, I believe that Rubio, Crist and Dem. Kendrick Meeks are running for the seat vacated by Martinez.

I gotta look-up whoever is challenging Nelso, whom I despise myself.

38 posted on 02/25/2010 12:55:43 PM PST by ExcursionGuy84
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To: AndyJackson
There is a lot of rah rah cheerleading on FR for things that don't actually make any sense. A lot of the reason that the scientific community oposes manned spaceflight is that they believe it to be an extravagant stunt that drastically cuts into resources to put useful scientific instruments into space.

Yes, let's leave it to the Chinese and Russians. We can come begging to them with hat in hand if we need a ride to fix those fancy scientific instruments.

39 posted on 02/25/2010 1:01:22 PM PST by ScreamingFist
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To: Species8472

Manned space flight is far too important to drop. This isn’t a simple budget issue this is a National Security issue. If anything the process to replace the space shuttle as a means of manned space flight should be sped up considerably.


40 posted on 02/25/2010 1:02:18 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Species8472

like swinging in quicksand


41 posted on 02/25/2010 1:23:07 PM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)
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To: pallis

amen!


42 posted on 02/25/2010 1:23:12 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: skr
Rubio, McCollum and Crist are running for Nelson’s seat on the Republican side.

No they're not, they're running for Mel's old seat. Nellie is still serving. We still have 2 more years of Nelson to go.

43 posted on 02/25/2010 1:28:11 PM PST by NonValueAdded ("Roll back Pelosi" Rush Limbaugh, 2/12/10)
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To: ScreamingFist
Yes, let's leave it to the Chinese and Russians.

Weird to see Joss Whedon look like a bit of a prophet: who figured astronauts would be speaking Chinese, at least part of the time?

44 posted on 02/25/2010 1:32:03 PM PST by BelegStrongbow (Dear Leader: you have two ears and one mouth. Start using them in proportion.)
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To: rogertarp

Of course you are right. We are broke.

I’m more interested in people unifying against Obama.

However - back to NASA.

Obama’s plan only cuts a program. However he still plans to increase spending on NASA.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/news_space_thewritestuff/2009/02/nasa-to-get-187-billion-in-obama-budget-.html

“WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama would give NASA nearly $19 billion in a 2010 budget plan unrolled this morning — a small increase over the $18 billion that the Bush administration had planned for the space agency next year, according to budget documents.

The boost adds to the $1 billion that NASA already has received under Obama’s stimulus plan. Combined, these two increases represent slightly better days for NASA officials and space enthusiasts, who have complained for years that NASA doesn’t receive the funding it needs.”


45 posted on 02/25/2010 1:34:39 PM PST by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: NonValueAdded; Frantzie

Oops, you’re right, NonValueAdded. They are running for Martinez’s seat. I have heard that Nelson was going to retire, but perhaps he was only considering it. I recall the usual “spend more time with my family” reason.


46 posted on 02/25/2010 1:35:01 PM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: AndyJackson
You should fee lost. There is a lot of rah rah cheerleading on FR for things that don't actually make any sense. A lot of the reason that the scientific community oposes manned spaceflight is that they believe it to be an extravagant stunt that drastically cuts into resources to put useful scientific instruments into space.

Useful scientific equipment in space can fail or need maintenance. Building an elevator up to them is just not practical. Launching a MANNED ship to do such repairs is practical as it has been done. Hubble telescope is one example.

With our communications grid switching from land line to cellular and satellite technology the need is more so. Add to that the defense satellite grid and you have NEED.

Many federal programs should be cut. NASA does a legitimate function and is related to our defense. The cost vs benefits rendered from NASA has been a major part in the technology we use today as has our defense technologies as applied to our daily lives.

47 posted on 02/25/2010 1:37:09 PM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: skr
"He’s retiring."

I don't believe so. Or, at least he hasn't made any public announce of that fact. He was just reelected in 2006. He's not up for reelection until '12.

48 posted on 02/25/2010 1:39:11 PM PST by OldDeckHand
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To: Liberty Valance

I bet they took the 8-track tape player too.


49 posted on 02/25/2010 1:41:08 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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To: rogertarp

Do you:

Watch cable TV?

Have a Blackberry?

Use GPS?


50 posted on 02/25/2010 1:54:21 PM PST by smokingfrog (You can't ignore your boss and expect to keep your job... WWW.filipthishouse2010.com)
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