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ANALYSIS-Scientists examine causes for lull in warming
Reuters ^ | 25 Feb 2010 14:59:01 GMT | Gerard Wynn and Alister Doyle

Posted on 02/25/2010 8:43:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Source: Reuters

* Exact causes unknown for lack of warming from 1999-2008

* The underlying reason for cold winter not known

* Climate science in focus after email scandal, errors

By Gerard Wynn and Alister Doyle

LONDON/OSLO, Feb 25 (Reuters) - Climate scientists must do more to work out how exceptionally cold winters or a dip in world temperatures fit their theories of global warming, if they are to persuade an increasingly sceptical public.

At stake is public belief that greenhouse gas emissions are warming the planet, and political momentum to act as governments struggle to agree a climate treaty which could direct trillions of dollars into renewable energy, away from fossil fuels.

Public conviction of global warming's risks may have been undermined by an error in a U.N. panel report exaggerating the pace of melt of Himalayan glaciers and by the disclosure of hacked emails revealing scientists sniping at sceptics, who leapt on these as evidence of data fixing.

Scientists said they must explain better how a freezing winter this year in parts of the northern hemisphere and a break in a rising trend in global temperatures since 1998 can happen when heat-trapping gases are pouring into the atmosphere.

"There is a lack of consensus," said Kevin Trenberth, head of the Climate Analysis Section at the U.S. National Center for Atmospheric Research, on why global temperatures have not matched a peak set in 1998, or in 2005 according to one U.S. analysis. For a table of world temperatures: [ID:nLDE6050Y5]

Part of the explanation could be a failure to account for rapid warming in parts of the Arctic, where sea ice had melted, and where there were fewer monitoring stations, he said.

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1 posted on 02/25/2010 8:43:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Where does carbon dioxide go on vacation?


2 posted on 02/25/2010 8:45:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Fred Nerks; steelyourfaith; NormsRevenge; onyx; BOBTHENAILER; ...
ROFLMAO!!!

Send more dollars!

I think there is an admission that the warming is not happening...

3 posted on 02/25/2010 8:45:40 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hoaxes are apparently very hard for scientists to understand.


4 posted on 02/25/2010 8:46:58 PM PST by comebacknewt
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


5 posted on 02/25/2010 8:47:39 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
At stake is public belief that greenhouse gas emissions are warming the planet, and political momentum to act as governments struggle to agree a climate treaty which could direct trillions of dollars into renewable energy, away from fossil fuels.
6 posted on 02/25/2010 8:47:51 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Heat trapping gases POURING into the atmosphere”....right. At the ppm level.
Big deal.


7 posted on 02/25/2010 8:47:57 PM PST by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This planet has been warming and cooling(constantly) for thousands of years..
Just depends on where you are at what time.. 24/7 365...
8 posted on 02/25/2010 8:48:05 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Climate scientists must do more to work out how exceptionally cold winters or a dip in world temperatures fit their theories of global warming, if they are to persuade an increasingly sceptical public.

Making the data fit the theories ... real scientists at work.

9 posted on 02/25/2010 8:48:14 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham ("Did I give you carbolic acid? I'd love to.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Climate science in focus after email scandal, errors

LOLOLOLOLOL

10 posted on 02/25/2010 8:49:41 PM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It’s called winter! :)


11 posted on 02/25/2010 8:49:46 PM PST by christianhomeschoolmommaof3 (Proverbs 18:2 A fool has no delight in understanding but in expressing his own heart.)
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H/T to HardOCP...the word is getting around when the Hard Core gaming sites post things like this...see it here:

Scientists Examine Causes For 10 year Lull in Warming

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First it was the report on melting glaciers that weren’t melting. That was followed by the hacked e-mail scandal that rocked the supporters of the global warming theory. Now scientists say they need more money to figure our why there was a dip in global temperatures between 1999 – 2008. Wait. What?!?

12 posted on 02/25/2010 8:50:14 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I pray these idiots feel the global warming when they “Go down in flames”


13 posted on 02/25/2010 8:50:41 PM PST by mylife (Opinions: $1.00 Halfbaked: 50c)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"Save The Scam!"
14 posted on 02/25/2010 8:51:05 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I question whether any of the so called “climate scientists” are even scientists at all. They did not include any of the effects of the Sun in their climate models. How stupid is that? The Sun being the prime and just about only source of energy for the climate.

On top of that they all bought into the malarky that the small percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere was causing all this non-existent warming. People with some sense have been saying all along that CO2 is good, that plants thrive on it and it is not causing any problem.

We still have these idiots that are wanting to spend millions if not billions on “Carbon Sequestration”, and trying to get “Cap & Trade” legislation passed.

Its all hogwash being promoted by a bunch of snake oil salesmen..Al Gore being the head snake.

Off with their heads!


15 posted on 02/25/2010 8:58:53 PM PST by flash2368
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I notice that things get colder when I dont buy my wife a present every so often

I think things get warmer when its not getting colder


16 posted on 02/25/2010 9:01:01 PM PST by woofie
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
Making the data fit the theories.....

That is what they have been doing with reducing the bad (too cold)recording stations and cherry picking their data very carefully...got to keep the money coming thru the Global warming research grants....

17 posted on 02/25/2010 9:01:51 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Climate scientists must do more to work out how exceptionally cold winters or a dip in world temperatures fit their theories of global warming, if they are to persuade an increasingly sceptical public.

Theories? Hell, I thought they sold it as fact.

18 posted on 02/25/2010 9:02:36 PM PST by umgud (I couldn't understand why the ball kept getting bigger......... then it hit me.)
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To: flash2368
People with some sense have been saying all along that CO2 is good, that plants thrive on it and it is not causing any problem.

CO2 emission is a life process. You know if they try to control that it is not about protecting the planet but about controlling others....this is the venue they chose to do it....all should beware....

19 posted on 02/25/2010 9:03:40 PM PST by Niteflyr ("Just because something is free doesn't mean it's good for you".)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gaseous Vulcans. That’s what a colleague of mine likes to call the increasingly baroque attempts to save a theory falsified by observation (be it string theory or AGW). It refers to the attempts to explain the precession of the orbit of Mercury within Newtonian mechanics by positing a quickly orbiting planet closer to the sun, then, when this planet could not be observed proposing it was gaseous and transparent. Of course, Newtonian mechanics turns out to be wrong, and general relativity correctly predicts the precession of planetary orbits.

We can expect to see a succession of ‘gaseous Vulcans’ being proposed by the AGW types over the next few years (I hope: this kind of thing can take decades to go away.)


20 posted on 02/25/2010 9:04:08 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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