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Posted on 02/26/2010 4:51:59 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
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the OS is nothing special. Its just NEXTstep, more. and there is absolutely no difference in the quality of any of those computers? Not in my belief. The difference is in the specs they build to - as well as in the operating system which is built in Cupertino, CA.
. . . and what, pray tell, would be "special?"The Mac is an integrated system; there is no division of responsibility between hardware and software. If you have a problem, it's not maybe a Microsoft problem and maybe a Dell problem - it's an Apple problem.
Apple has its own retail shops complete with techs for troubleshooting. Sort of like the auto dealership model for a quality automobile line - except that the salesmen aren't on commission and don't try to push expensive options. They mostly just answer your questions and just let you buy. Others have tried to do their own retail, and fallen flat. They're now thinking of trying it again, now that Apple has shown them how it can be done right. Trouble is, when you're in the commodity business it's pretty hard to do high-quality in service just like it's hard to do quality hardware-software integration.
>”Id love to see Gore go to prison for his crimes.”
I’d LOVE to see him taken to court over the GloBull Warming crap. I think there would be an incredible eye-opening about the crap that he and the rest of the loony Left have tried to put over on us. He could very well be sent to prison, since he’s made SOOOOO much money on this.
But, on the flip side, the Left would just say we’re on a witch hunt and become even more resistant to a logical conclusion on this. Unless they see it as a fraud, wouldn’t make a difference. Just look at how they voted for that S###-In-A-Sack obama. No reasonable thinking, just knee-jerk reaction to the so-called “One”.
>”had an aerostar”
I had one of those too. ‘94, I think. Man, lived up in the great white north at the time and hoooo-weeee! That thing could go through the snow like it was nobodies business. Good ride too. Only thing that ever kept giving me trouble what the darned power steering pump. Ford never could get them to work as well as every body elses. My vehicles pumps today are great. Glad to see they finally worked out the bugs.
>”would enjoy an f350 super duty”
I’m telling ya, it’s a dream. Only thing thats a pain is here in Mn, the cost for my plates dont go down as the vehicle depreciates (They do on a 250 or smaller). Stays the same, year after year, but it’s still well worth it. Its a 2003 and I have one of the last 7.3 diesels. Friend of mine bought a brand new 250 2 years ago and it has done nothing but live in the shop. This keeps going out, that keeps breaking, dead on the road, EGR valve frozen up, blah blah blah. I think when they started using the smaller (6.something) engines but tweaking them out to provide more power, well, youre just asking for things to go wrong.
And here's something for ya, too... :-)
Rush talking about his Macs... :-)
You know, I'm a big Mac guy. I love Macs, and I've got four Mac Pros. They're the top-of-the-line Mac Pros, maxed out. And they just had a new system upgrade, went to 10.5 Leopard, and they've had two upgrades since October. Yesterday brought 10.5.2, which was loaded.
NB: All right, I've got just one more quick question for you. Last time I saw you, you'd just gotten an iPhone. How's that working out for you?
ROVE: I love it. My life has changed. I have a shred of coolness. I've got my 3,500 people in my addressbook on the phone, I can sync my calendar. I keep track of my modest little stock investments. I can check the weather of my house in Washington, my house in Florida, my boy at school, my hunt-lease in south Texas. I can surf the web, I'm justI get part of my email there.
You chose the right phone, Karl!
I mean it is just shocking how much better, how much more productive I am. I no longer carry around a giant address book, if I don't have my calendar close at hand, I can quickly check it out of my I don't have to carry, I used to carry several notecards, now it's just as easy to scribble on my little notepad, I can take photographs and forward them on immediately, it's just remarkable.
Why can’t I admit that. BSD is a fine alternative to MAC. In fact, it makes a lot of sense if you are MAC user looking for alternatives.
Oh I see...you think I live on this board and respond as soon someone posts something. Silly you...I have a life.
With a rock-solid UNIX foundation and powerful technologies such as Grand Central Dispatch, OpenCL, Bonjour networking, and built-in synchronization, Snow Leopard unleashes the full power of your Mac.
UNIX: A robust, proven foundation.
UNIX is widely known for its robust, proven foundation thats scalable, powerful, and crash resistant. And with tens of millions of users consumers, scientists, animators, developers, system administrators, and more Mac OS X is the most widely used UNIX desktop operating system in the world.1 It offers a unique combination of technical elements, such as fine-grained multithreading, FreeBSD services, and zero-configuration networking. Its state-of-the-art kernel supports preemptive multitasking, symmetric multiprocessing (SMP) scalability, and 64-bit virtual memory, while standards-based access control lists take UNIX permissions to the next level.
UNIX power users will feel at home in Darwin, the robust BSD environment that underlies Mac OS X and is accessible from the Terminal application. All of the common UNIX utilities, command shells, and scripting languages are included in Mac OS X, including Perl, PHP, tcl, Ruby, and Python. And Mac OS X provides a set of optimized libraries, making it easy to port your existing UNIX code.
Thats a good point. Seems Ive seen Rush with an open Apple on his desk. Would like to know, was it donated? Did he buy it? Curious what his thoughts are on this.
I did already comment on that one... so noting Post #104 ...
That operation is by the mining division of Occidental Petroleum. It is simply a vehicle to give money to Al Gore.
During the height of the Democrats battle to keep us from drilling for oil and gas or mining our own coal Vice President Al Gore was instrumental in allowing Occidental to buy the Elk Hills Naval Reserve, a large oil reserve in California set aside for our use during war time, and they bought it at a bargain price.
Gore was also instrumental in pushing the native Indians in South America aside so that Occidental could drill for oil there, in the "Rain Forest", without sharing the royalties with anyone.
All of this info is available to anyone who wants to look for it so why does the MSM ignore it? We know the answer to that.
What does a board member do? I have always wondered what these celebrities actually do to enhance the bottom line of the companies? Is Al Gore actually making some sort of decision about Apple business practices? Was Hillary really helping run Walmart when she was a board member? What do they do?
“The Mac is an integrated system; there is no division of responsibility between hardware and software. If you have a problem, it’s not maybe a Microsoft problem and maybe a Dell problem - it’s an Apple problem. “
That’s fine. Happy for you. For me, the Mac is FAR too limiting.
“Apple has its own retail shops complete with techs for troubleshooting.”
The kind of “techs” you will find at a “Genius Bar” are like the “techs” you find in any other retail store.
If Karl Rove uses it, that’s a strike against it.
The only thing he’s an “architecet” of is the end of the GOP.
“No, can’t admit that - because the version of Unix under which OS X runs is, IIRC, BSD. “
Not really, no.
“UNIX is widely known for its robust, proven foundation thats scalable, powerful, and crash resistant. And with tens of millions of users consumers, scientists, animators, developers, system administrators, and more Mac OS X is the most widely used UNIX desktop operating system in the world.”
The only reason why OS X is the “most widely used UNIX desktop OS” is becaus Apple paid Open Group for certification. At one point - before a lawsuit - Windows NT was going to be certified as a “UNIX” when running the Interix subsystem. In the technical arena, Linux is FAR more widespread.
I know, “rah rah Apple” is common for you people who praise it for things you don’t understand and only use the thing for message board postings and writing your Mom....
JULY 30, 2007
By Tom Yager
OS X's commercial credentials recently got a major boost from the Open Group. Thanks to the efforts of Apple's OS boss Kevin Van Vechten and his team, Leopard has cleared all of the hurdles required to attain UNIX 03 certification. That places Apple in elite company. Only Sun, IBM and HP are certified, so OS X turns the Big Three into the Big Four.
Here's Apple's Open Group brand certificate, which entitles Apple to use the UNIX brand. I suggest printing this on high rag content paper, framing it and hanging it in your server room or your Mac-graced cubicle. There are UNIX pretenders, and there is the real thing. Mac users, realize that qualifying for UNIX is no small feat, especially for an open source, BSD-based OS. The Open Group standards, the PDFs for which are idiotically marked as free but blocked from PDF download unless you buy your way into a membership, are rooted in System V. Apple is to be commended.
The UNIX 03 specifications cover libraries, system calls, terminal interfaces, commands and utilities, internationalization and the C language. That's the whole enchilada for ISVs (independent software vendors) porting their server and non-GUI applications to OS X. UNIX ISVs ought to climb on board, because once Leopard ships in October I expect Xserve sales to take a leap. Software developers should also keep in mind that the Leopard client OS is the same as Apple's server, minus the quite exceptional administrative tools, and the installed base of four and eight-core Mac Pro desktop/workstations is even larger. MacBook Pro users are carrying 4 GB notebooks. If you're put off by Objective-C and Apple's proprietary UI frameworks--you needn't be, although I do wish that someone would give Apple's frameworks the Mono treatment--you've got OpenGL, SDL, X Window, Wine, Java SWT, Flash, DHTML with Apple's Canvas extension, and my old flame, curses. Microsoft's Silverlight is sweet as well, and it's picking up steam.
Wondering if you want in? You do. Imagine coding on Mac and porting by recompile to RISC big iron.
“Wondering if you want in? You do. Imagine coding on Mac and porting by recompile to RISC big iron.”
I can do all of that and more with Linux on Intel. Easily.
Yawn. The standard for technical computing is Linux and will be for the forseeable future.
Updated 03:45 am EDT, Thu August 2, 2007
Apple's Mac OS X Leopard has received the stamp of approval as an official unix operating system. The official UNIX 03 certification, which entitled the company to use the Unix brand,d came from the Open Group thanks in part to the efforts of Apple's OS boss Kevin Van Vechten and his team and puts Mac OS X Leopard alongside the Big Three: Sun, IBM, and HP, according to Infoworld. The certification for the delayed operating system came in mid-May, but was only recently publicized. A publicly available document certifies that "Apple has entered into a Trademark License Agreement with X/Open Company Limited in accordance with which the following are registered under the X/Open Brand Program: UNIX 03, Registration P1190; Mac OS X Version 10.5 Leopard on Intel-based Macintosh Computers."
The Open Brand is the internationally accepted guarantee of conformance to recognized standards, elevating Apple's status to a tier-one Unix operating system.
"Mac users, realize that qualifying for UNIX is no small feat, especially for an open source, BSD-based OS," Infoworld's Tom Yager wrote.
According to the report, the UNIX 03 specifications cover libraries, system calls, terminal interfaces, commands and utilities, internationalization and the C language.
The certification means that Leopard, which was delayed until October as Apple diverted resources to iPhone development, conforms to the Single UNIX Specification Version 3 (SUS), which defines how components such as the command shell, the compiler, and C APIs should function.
Company Name: Apple Inc.
Product Name: Mac OS X Version 10.6 Snow Leopard
Environment: on Intel-based Macintosh computers
Registered on: 22-Oct-2009
Display a copy of the Brand Certificate in PDF
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The UNIX 03 Product Standard is the mark for systems conforming to Version 3 of the Single UNIX Specification. It is a significantly enhanced version of the UNIX 98 Product Standard. The mandatory enhancements include alignment with ISO/IEC 9989:1999 C Programming Language, IEEE Std 1003.1-2001 and ISO/IEC 9945:2002. This Product Standard includes the following mandatory Product Standards: Internationalized System Calls and Libraries Extended V3, Commands and Utilities V4, C Language V2, and Internationalized Terminal Interfaces.
Product Standards are explained in Practical Guide to the Open Brand
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You don’t have a clue what any of that actually means, do you?
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