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1 posted on 02/28/2010 5:29:31 AM PST by Brugmansian
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This Obama is beyond belief.
There isn’t anything he can’t Ruin.


2 posted on 02/28/2010 5:33:54 AM PST by chatham
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This would mess up my entire life, which is built on rental and interest income not being taxable.

Zero can go to hell.


3 posted on 02/28/2010 5:37:01 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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This is an extraordinarily stupid and destructive proposal.

Is there ANY way we can get this loser out of office before he does more damage? 2012 is a long way off at the rate this Bozo is pulling stink grenades out his bunghole.


4 posted on 02/28/2010 5:39:50 AM PST by John Valentine
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Allow me to put this in simple terms. Medicare and Medicaid and all government health care and entitlement systems are completely and absoulutly BANKRUPT. They survive on borrowing from China and cost shifting claims to the private sector. Private insurance and retirement systems are solvent, even though they are being drained by the cost shift to the government fiascos. The socialist parasites are attempting to destroy the private system and replace it with a government system of higher taxes and rationing for all. I sure hope we can stop them.


7 posted on 02/28/2010 5:42:02 AM PST by screaminsunshine (i)
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The problem we have here...ain’t the lack of taxation...the right kind of tax....objects, entities or activities to tax...

its a mindset. The minds that created the problem ...are not capable of a solution....


8 posted on 02/28/2010 5:42:16 AM PST by mo
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It will be interesting to see how they intend to collect this, because right now it comes out of paychecks. Most of those new income sources don’t currently involve a withholding action, even though the mechanism exists.


9 posted on 02/28/2010 5:44:26 AM PST by Bernard (One if by Land, Two if by Sea, Three if by Government)
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Why is this a surprize to anyone ? This also applies to the decapitation tax which states are jumping on in the guise of protecting US from “global warming”. Its being set up to maintain bloated bureaucracies which states run by socialists refuse to reduce.

THEY WILL PUSH “RECONCILIATION” and pressure must be applied to house members warning them if they vote for it
VOTE NO
OR OUT YOU GO

http://www.theusmat.com/


10 posted on 02/28/2010 5:47:37 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("There's still no MSM mention of Obama's extravagant life style while millions are unemployed")
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I'm going to dissent from the avalanche of gotcha which is sure to come on this thread.

If you oppose paying for the medical needs of all Medicare beneficiaries through taxation, you should support abolishing Medicare.

If you support paying other people's medical bills through taxation, then you should support raising taxes - a lot.

But you can't support trillions for other people's medical bills AND not paying for it. That's our policy now - and it's a disaster.

11 posted on 02/28/2010 5:49:28 AM PST by Jim Noble (Hu's the communist?)
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Maybe folks need to look at claiming the “Amish” exemption. I don’t know exactly what forms need to be filled out to get this exemption, but I’m sure someone is looking into this. A philosophic or religious exemption does not necessarily need to be based on membership to a specific church.
It’s certainly crazy to do this with investment income. How low do we want the market to go now. Under 0bamacare the IRS will have real time ability to snatch money out of a bank account or probably investment account, you might as well buy some precious metals and put it in a safe in an undisclosed location.


14 posted on 02/28/2010 6:01:17 AM PST by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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As usual, Obama's understanding of economics is half-baked.

If the extra wealth of wealthy Americans were, as Obama seems to believe, simply stuffed into mattresses, increasing taxes on it would only mean a little less wealth for the wealthy and lumpier mattresses.

HOWEVER, the half the equation that Obama doesn't understand is that the money soon to be confiscated (under the principle of fairness) would actually immediately find its way back into the economy in ways that make it possible for ordinary Americans to borrow for housing, cars, consumables, borrow for college, etc.

Some of it would otherwise find its way to companies large and small that need it to grow employment, buy equipment, put products on the shelves, and, yes, even meet the payroll.

So if you are worried about your employment or fear that a slow down in the economy might hurt you in some other way...thank Obama's taxes on the wealthy!

15 posted on 02/28/2010 6:02:22 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Barky...because he's barking mad!!!)
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To: Brugmansian; Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; ...

The List, ping


27 posted on 02/28/2010 7:38:05 AM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543

Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake. http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460358/posts

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Snip

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


34 posted on 02/28/2010 4:55:45 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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