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ATF seizes 30 toy guns, infuriating local business owner
Koin Local 6 ^ | 2/26/2010 | Alexis Del Cid

Posted on 02/28/2010 5:56:07 AM PST by Harrius Magnus

CORNELIUS, Ore. - A local business owner is flabbergasted after a shipment of 30 toy guns for his store was confiscated by ATF agents in Tacoma.

Brad Martin and his son, Ben, sell the Airsoft BB guns from their store in Cornelius where they’ve been in business for seven years.

The Martins said they buy their stock from Taiwan because the merchandise is less expensive. But the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives seized a shipment of 30 in October. That shipment is worth around $12,000 and the ATF is promising to destroy the entire shipment.

Special Agent Kelvin Crenshaw said the toys can be easily retro-fitted into dangerous weapons.

"With minimal work it could be converted to a machine gun," Crenshaw said.

Brad Martin is furious about the loss of money, for sure, but also in what he now thinks as a loss of his time and the use of government agents to seize toy guns.

"All this manpower, all this time, all this taxpayer money, [it is] wasting my time and my profitability,” Martin said. “[Just] to seize 30 toy guns!"

Ben Martin disagrees that the toy guns could ever be considered dangerous.

"To say these are readily convertible to machine guns is absolutely preposterous,” he said. “The round wouldn't go into the firing chamber and even if the firing pin did strike the primer the gun would basically blow up in your face.”

ATF said it also seized the toys because they are missing the blaze orange tips required on all imported toy guns.

The Martins said they've received shipments before from Taiwan that were missing the orange tips and were simply asked by customs agents to drive up to Tacoma and paint the tips orange themselves. They are wondering why it is an issue now.


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1 posted on 02/28/2010 5:56:08 AM PST by Harrius Magnus
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To: Harrius Magnus

ATF have always been a bunch of nazi dunba$$es.


2 posted on 02/28/2010 5:58:24 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Travis McGee

Check this out!

“’With minimal work it could be converted to a machine gun,’ Crenshaw said.”


3 posted on 02/28/2010 5:58:48 AM PST by Harrius Magnus (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

TOYS CAN KILL.............(just like fascists)


4 posted on 02/28/2010 5:59:43 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: Harrius Magnus

Special Agent Kelvin Crenshaw said the toys can be easily retro-fitted into dangerous weapons.

An Airsoft plastic toy converted to a firearm??
What is this clown smoking and why is he working for US?

Jack


5 posted on 02/28/2010 5:59:51 AM PST by btcusn
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To: Harrius Magnus

With even less work a baseball bat can be turned into a dangerous weapon! What a bunch of morons.


6 posted on 02/28/2010 6:01:05 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Obama is intent on destroying America!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yes, indeed. I think the toy store owner ought to sue those clowns into the ground. Make them look like the doofuses that they are.


7 posted on 02/28/2010 6:01:22 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Harrius Magnus

I don’t like the ATF seizing toys, but how the heck do 30 toy guns wind up costing $12,000?! That’s $400 per toy gun.


8 posted on 02/28/2010 6:03:14 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Harrius Magnus

I did not know that Alcohol, Fire arms and tobacco are illegal?

So we know they go after toy guns, probably shut down businesses that sell alcohol to minors, and go after smokes in the local 7-11. So when was their last BIG tobacco bust? This is a serious group with tax payer money well spent! (sarcasm off)


9 posted on 02/28/2010 6:03:44 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: Harrius Magnus

The Martins should consider themselves fortunate that the atf did not wait until the shipment arrived at their place of business. They would have then raided the business, seized the bb guns, and killed the Martins. The atf is comprised of individuals that are considered too whacked out to be fbi agents.


10 posted on 02/28/2010 6:04:29 AM PST by sport
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To: Dr. Sivana

http://www.trendtimes.com/airsoft-guns.html

plenty over 500+


11 posted on 02/28/2010 6:05:33 AM PST by Flavius
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To: Harrius Magnus

It’s time for the ATF to get it’s wings clipped! The “guns” are made from soft alloy castings, no way will they hold the pressures of live ammo.


12 posted on 02/28/2010 6:06:44 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Scotsman will be Free

The ATF should go after the water pistols. That’s the REAL hotbed!


13 posted on 02/28/2010 6:07:35 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Ban water pistols now!!


14 posted on 02/28/2010 6:09:01 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: btcusn

What is this clown smoking and why is he working for US?

He ain’t working for ME.

Jack

the real mystery here is why a toy airsoft costs 400 dollars each. I’m sure that alone didn’t pass the batfe smell test. Frankly, the batfe is one more government entity looking for work, and as we have seen in the past, they will find “work” usually at the expense of the average citizen, and the “rights” of said citizen that come from God and are under siege by the batfe.

The second amendment did not arrive courtesy of the batfe.


15 posted on 02/28/2010 6:11:17 AM PST by wita
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To: Harrius Magnus

I’m waiting for Obama to claim that they took 30 machine guns off the streets through strong enforcement.


16 posted on 02/28/2010 6:11:53 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: Harrius Magnus

Government in partnership with the people.


17 posted on 02/28/2010 6:14:20 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: btcusn

Perhaps he watched too many episodes of McGiver in his youth.


18 posted on 02/28/2010 6:14:23 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Specially the pink, semi clear types. Why you could squirt someone in the eye with one. If we can save just one child from being squirted in the eye it will be worth it.


19 posted on 02/28/2010 6:17:05 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I was THINKING paintguns. Now those pellets are extremely dangerous, especially if you fill them with acid, or anthrax, or plague, or NITRO!

DAISY; Red Rider is next........


20 posted on 02/28/2010 6:17:07 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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