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The REAL scoop on Obama's background (IMHO & referenced vanity)
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/26/okubo-responds-to-public-outcry-for-investigation/ ^

Posted on 02/28/2010 5:47:10 PM PST by cycle of discernment

This comment from the Post and Email sums up what i believe...Frank Marshall Davis is Obama's father, having bedded the young Ann Dunham, his communist buddy's daughter. As we know from O himself in his book, FMD was a frequent guest discussing politics and smoking dope with grandpa.

After Ann and the pawn Obama Sr ( a useful decoy who does not look a microdot like Obama Jr ) were divorced, she married Lolo Soetoro (LS as referred to below) who adopted O, thus making him an indonesian citizen...doubtful anyone bothered to get paperwork re-establishing O as a US citizen. So this is reason why the wonky SS# and other paperwork has all been conjured.

see comment below: --------------------------------------- E Glenn Harcsar says: Sunday, February 28, 2010 at 9:15 AM

Here’s my take after following since June 2008. (This is not an original thesis of mine.) BOjr is a NBC by SAD and FMD. BOsr is a stooge to hide the real father’s infidelity and pedophilia, along with MPD and SD knowledge of the abuse of their daughter. LS comes in to sweep up the mess, as duty calls. They all went along with it ( and could get away with it) because each in some real way is connected to the “gas” company, the same one that funded the Dunham’s move to Hawai’i, Anne’s globe tripping and little Barry’s early education through real estate held under alias.

We’re stuck with a 50 year old lie that has been doctored, bandaged, clipped, and falsified, and more recently scrubbed, snubbed, and whacked because the company still needs the information it is charged to gather centralized.

(Excerpt) Read more at thepostemail.com ...


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KEYWORDS: alteredtitle; artbell; awgeez; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obamatruthfile; tinfoilhat; vanity
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1 posted on 02/28/2010 5:47:10 PM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

Also, O could exploit the Indonesian citizen status in getting entry and foreign student funding at Occidental college-—why else did O’s lawyers clamp down on those requesting release of his registration and transcript records?


2 posted on 02/28/2010 5:52:56 PM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

So, 0be does have slave blood making him a real brother. I’d think Zer0 would want this info out in the open.


3 posted on 02/28/2010 5:58:52 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: cycle of discernment

IF BO, Sr.’s name is on the BC he is the legal daddy, even if he never spermed Stanley Ann! If his name is on the BC as “Daddy”, Jr. is not a NBC!


4 posted on 02/28/2010 6:00:48 PM PST by WellyP
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To: cycle of discernment

While I am not given to conspiracy theories, I think this summation may actually be the case. The entire journey of Obama’s grandparents and Obama’s careful tutelage by Marxists throughout his entire life is just too pat to be coincidental. Then the willing acquiescence of a Marxist-oriented media simply seals the deal.


5 posted on 02/28/2010 6:02:22 PM PST by hampdenkid
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To: cycle of discernment
The Post & Email
6 posted on 02/28/2010 6:06:58 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: WellyP

Who knows who the hecks name is on it....

What a twisted tale it all is....

As far as the citizenship issue, because Lolo Soetoro adopted O, any US citizenship O had was revoked because Indonesia did not recognize dual cicitsenship from what I understand. We have NO evidence of any reinstatemnet paperwork for O’s US citizenship. So has he been cruising along using this or that faked documentation—SS#, BC, etc?

And the ONLY way O could attend Indonesian school by law was as an indonesian citizen.

I feel we are arriving at the nuggets of truth here.


7 posted on 02/28/2010 6:08:55 PM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment

I’ve believed for some time that Barry was a bastard (that can be taken two ways and both fit)and that the birth certificate thing was to hide who truly was the father. This makes sense.


8 posted on 02/28/2010 6:13:09 PM PST by dwg2
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To: cycle of discernment
As far as the citizenship issue, because Lolo Soetoro adopted O

Show the Adoption document if true.

O had was revoked because Indonesia did not recognize dual cicitsenship(sic) from what I understand.

US law is not trumped by some foreign country's laws and US law will not allow a parent to renounce a child's US citizenship

We have NO evidence of any reinstatemnet (sic) paperwork for O’s US citizenship.

There will never be evidence for something that was never required.

9 posted on 02/28/2010 6:21:10 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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It is widely accepted O was adopted by Lolo Soetoro—hence O’s name of Obama ( Barry ) Soetoro on school records which have been shown on this forum.

As to the other point, I understand that Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship—i may be wrong, show me the refernce on this—in which case the citizenship of the father ( adoptive) is passed to the son.


10 posted on 02/28/2010 6:24:49 PM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: dwg2

http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/facing-naked-truth-about-stanley-ann.html


11 posted on 02/28/2010 6:33:02 PM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment
As to the other point, I understand that Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship—i may be wrong, show me the refernce on this—in which case the citizenship of the father ( adoptive) is passed to the son.

Not under U.S. law-- if you were born a U.S. citizen, you can never lose your citizenship unless you personally renounce it, as an adult, before a U.S. consular officer overseas. (See the U.S. Supreme Court's decision in Afroyim v. Rusk). Your parents could renounce your citizenship 100 times when you were a child and it would have no effect.

12 posted on 02/28/2010 6:38:17 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

Ok, thanks, one less wrinkle to factor in.


13 posted on 02/28/2010 6:40:07 PM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: cycle of discernment
It is widely accepted O was adopted by Lolo Soetoro—hence O’s name of Obama ( Barry ) Soetoro on school records which have been shown on this forum.

So you will accept a Un-vetted photograph that says Obama's was born in Honolulu, Hawaii.

14 posted on 02/28/2010 6:50:20 PM PST by MilspecRob (Most people don't act stupid, they really are.)
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To: cycle of discernment
One is of course tempted to ask why you believe that.

Your view of what he looks like?

My view is that he is a dark skinned copy of his maternal grandfather. Not that means much.

But your view attacks a fairly consistent paper record including his true birth certificate issued in Mombassa.

Come to think about it, why do you believe that?

15 posted on 02/28/2010 7:07:17 PM PST by David (...)
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To: LucyT; melancholy; Candor7

interested ?? Seems pretty speculative to me


16 posted on 02/28/2010 7:37:25 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: David

What certificate issued in Mombassa?

I’m not aware of one that has passed the smell test. Please enlighten me.


17 posted on 02/28/2010 7:42:19 PM PST by cycle of discernment
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To: Lurking Libertarian
you can never lose your citizenship unless you personally renounce it, as an adult, before a U.S. consular officer overseas

Actually, the statutory provision in effect in the late 1970s and early 1980s provided additional ways to lose US citizenship as an adult besides personally renouncing it to the State department.

For example, if Obama took steps to secure his Indonesian citizenship as an adult, such as applying for and obtaining an Indonesian passport claiming Indonesian citizenship, that would likely have done the trick, without the US State Dept necessarily ever having been notified.

18 posted on 02/28/2010 9:00:34 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn
Greetings SirJohnBarleycorn:

Actually, the statutory provision in effect in the late 1970s and early 1980s provided additional ways to lose US citizenship as an adult besides personally renouncing it to the State department.

Would you kindly cite which statutory provision of United States Code (USC), or perhaps what policy from the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR), voids citizenship?

Frankly, the bottom line is: No matter who's the daddy, Barry's mommy was a military brat; so it's irrelevant where little Barry was born. Even when a State Department employee's unmarried child's-child is born overseas, the baby is a US citizen.

Cheers,
OLA

19 posted on 02/28/2010 9:40:24 PM PST by OneLoyalAmerican (In God I trust, all others cite your source.)
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To: OneLoyalAmerican
8 USC §1481
20 posted on 02/28/2010 9:57:38 PM PST by SirJohnBarleycorn
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