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The REAL scoop on Obama's background (IMHO & referenced vanity)
http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/02/26/okubo-responds-to-public-outcry-for-investigation/ ^

Posted on 02/28/2010 5:47:10 PM PST by cycle of discernment

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To: Fred Nerks
Obviously ‘Dreams’ is fiction and your theory is not only little Barry but all other characters (and their relationships , while based on real characters, are fictionalized as well?

Actually, I don't doubt it. As I've said previously, nothing about Obama is real.

Sometimes I think the solution to this brouhaha lies farther back in the time line.....back to Kansas with Stanley and Madelyn and any associations they developed with the communist or socialist parties. It's too bad for Madelyn since she was a well respected loan officer at the Bank of Hawaii but it would be a posting that allowed access to records and documents (i.e. identities, property search institutions, credit histories, Social Security numbers) and an insider opportunity to manipulate them, either for personal or party benefit...or both.

As for Stanley, his employment as a furniture salesman was mundane, his associations with FMD and others suspect and his role model as a parent and grandparent a dismal failure.

That Barry got into Punahou was a charm that can't be explained, except for Madelyn's jiggering the system.

Alles sind Schuldig!
41 posted on 03/01/2010 7:57:09 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: PA-RIVER
I too think there is a resemblance. I also think Obama had a nose job at some point.
42 posted on 03/01/2010 8:00:05 PM PST by Amntn
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To: Fred Nerks
“It was NOT a mistake, Kenya is shown to have used both dating systems.”

See world map with Kenya color-coded purple for dual dating formats:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_by_country

If you look at the edit history of this Wiki page an Obot named Mystylplx repeatedly tried to erase any evidence of the Kenya dual date format. She appears to have eventually succeeded, except for the telltale map (which may disappear after I post this).

43 posted on 03/01/2010 8:02:05 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: BIGLOOK; Fred Nerks; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik

Medicos advise to throttle back on the booze before the car crash.

44 posted on 03/01/2010 8:26:24 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Seizethecarp

thanks!


45 posted on 03/01/2010 8:36:16 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Jedidah

the FBI file is so heavily redacted and filled with black ink, it’s useless.

http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/malcolmx.htm

I think she followed him to New York:

http://kevincassell.com/PERSON/CONVERSA/malcolm.html


46 posted on 03/01/2010 9:02:25 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: BIGLOOK

Ich glaube, meine Forschung scheint meine Schlussfolgerungen zu validieren, wurde sie in Chicago lebt, folgte sie den Vater, Harlem in New York und alles, was wir gefragt werden, zu glauben, ist das Ergebnis der Notwendigkeit, das Scheitern der ursprünglichen Täuschung.

(I can’t believe I grew up speaking that language!)


47 posted on 03/01/2010 9:30:24 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
I think you're on to something too. Problem is the records are so muddled, fraudulently so, that any deductions from the investigation and analysis is jeopardized no matter how detailed and accurate. This may be one of the reasons why it's getting no traction in the courts here.

The case against Barry is being brought forth by 'concerned citizens' and not by a state's or federal prosecutor, whose motion for discovery would have merit. A state's Election Officer or a Secretary of State from one or more of the states would initiate such and they're not about to do it since they'd have to admit to being made fools of by accepting his credentials prior to the election.

There's more than enough to bring a suit but no one in government to do it. This is the fine mess we have now.
48 posted on 03/01/2010 11:02:21 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: Fred Nerks; Jim Robinson; parsifal; Non-Sequitur; EnderWiggins; OldDeckHand; ...
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If you read ‘Dreams’ you will find that Stanley Ann Dunham is quoted as telling zero (nothing ever comes out of his own mouth) that she was in Chicago working as an au pair when she ‘was only sixteen then’ - elsewhere, it states she was accepted to attend the University of Chicago, where her Uncle (Charles T Payne) was Deputy Director of the Library, so IF the date of birth on *HER* SS Application of November 1942 is correct, we may be able assume the year this refers to is 1958, right?

I have seen *no* evidence she graduated from Mercer Island, the two teachers who rave about her in a video, carefully obscure the date of the year book they are holding, and at no time show an image of Stanley Ann Dunham in that same year book...one would think they would, if her photo was in that yearbook, wouldn’t one?

Instead, all we are shown are images of sections of pages from what MAY be a yearbook, but the year nor the school are not identified.

The years 1958 through to 1962 are in fact a murky blur that passes by with nothing more than third-hand hearsay stories, and ONLY ONE person who maintains he ever saw Stanley Ann Dunham and Obama Sr together in Hawaii.

The question still remains unanswered: WHERE WAS STANLEY ANN IN THE PERIOD BETWEEN GRADUATION AND WHEN SHE SHOWED UP IN HAWAII WITH A TWO OR THREE YEAR OLD CHILD?

p.s. If, as my research shows, Stanley Ann Dunham did not set foot on Hawaiian soil, neither the Kenyan or FMD are contenders for fatherhood.

Question: WHY does everyone assume that ANN OBAMA in Hawaii and ANNA OBAMA in Seattle are the same person as Stanley Ann Dunham, when ‘Dreams’ makes it quite clear that a number of people in the story are COMPOSITES?

. . . . Check out # 39, and read to end of page.

49 posted on 03/02/2010 12:55:05 AM PST by LucyT
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To: LucyT

I am wondering, if 0bama Sr were not his father, and perhaps a famous NOI dude were his father, why would he have been born in Kenya, which I think is still a possibility?

Hmm.


50 posted on 03/02/2010 1:13:14 AM PST by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamay)
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To: LucyT

TANKS,Lu,,,

I get mo’Kornfuuzzed by the day,,,

Still don’t know anything about him that can be proven...


51 posted on 03/02/2010 1:59:57 AM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: LucyT
and ONLY ONE person who maintains he ever saw Stanley Ann Dunham and Obama Sr together in Hawaii.

That would be Obama's beard, Neil Abercrombie, the only person on the planet to put Anna and Senior in the same room.

The other members of the "snack bar crowd" don't remember the Obama-Dunham relationship. In this report, Hal Abercrombie said he never saw them together. Pake Zane could not recall Ann from those days but had precise memories of Senior.
52 posted on 03/02/2010 2:53:17 AM PST by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: Fred Nerks
I have seen no evidence she graduated from Mercer Island,

Except that none of her classmates, friends, or teachers mentioned a failure to graduate and they have no reason to lie about it. I have met one of her classmates who also appears in some videos. He is an extremely trustworthy person, a Marine, and would have mentioned her not graduating in the interviews he did if this was the case.

p.s. If, as my research shows, Stanley Ann Dunham did not set foot on Hawaiian soil,

According to WND, the University of Hawaii has confirmed that Stanley Ann Dunham attended the Fall 1960 term.

53 posted on 03/02/2010 3:01:09 AM PST by wideminded
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To: LucyT

Thank you for the ping, LucyT.
I will study the new information!


54 posted on 03/02/2010 5:15:49 AM PST by onyx (BE A MONTHLY DONOR - I AM)
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To: Fred Nerks
I have seen no evidence she graduated from Mercer Island

The University of Seattle transcript posted on WND indicates she graduated from Mercer Island High School, Mercer Island, in 1960. Why isn't that evidence?

55 posted on 03/02/2010 5:21:46 AM PST by browardchad ("Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not to his own fact." - Daniel P Moynihan)
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To: Fred Nerks

Except that Stanley Ann was neither blonde, nor Southern, nor likely enrolled in a New England college. Of course, Little may have changed the details, perhaps setting a precedent for fictionalized autobiographies in the family.

More likely he succumbed to a Chicago groupie in 1960 while his wife was pregnant with baby Qubilah.

Has there been a request for University of Chicago enrollment records re: Dunham?


56 posted on 03/02/2010 5:49:36 AM PST by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: LucyT
...‘Dreams’ makes it quite clear that a number of people in the story are COMPOSITES?

His whole fairy tale life is made up and I'm in awe of all those that are doing research to get to the truth. The only thing that we ALL know is true is the fact that he is ruining the country. We have a phoney POTUS and I don't like being in the middle of *his* nightmare.

57 posted on 03/02/2010 6:09:49 AM PST by azishot (J.D. Hayworth...U.S. Senator FOR Arizona...http://www.jdforsenate.com/)
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To: cycle of discernment

Hmmmmm....new thesis territory:

The Neurological Effects of Bitherism—Can It be Reversed?

parsy, who is waiting for the slew of research


58 posted on 03/02/2010 6:26:34 AM PST by parsifal (Abatis: Rubbish in front of a fort, to prevent the rubbish outside from molesting the rubbish inside)
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To: cycle of discernment

bump


59 posted on 03/02/2010 6:47:02 AM PST by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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To: LucyT; David; Fractal Trader; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; ...
Before our heads explode, we need to focus on what needs to happen:

(1) The appropriate Federal District Court must agree to issue a Writ of Quo Warranto.
1a: Holder and others will delay this as long as possible. Holder has "right of first refusal" to act as the people's counsel. As the President's lawyer, he will exercise that right after studying the situation for a year or two. Probably a year or two for each case, and maybe 5 years for any case in which Dr. Orly is involved.(Forgive me, I make leetle joke)
1b:When that dust settles, all the records from Hawaii will be subpoenaed as discovery and evidence
1c: The Hawaiians will continue to stonewall, redact, and obfuscate for as long a while as legally possible. Hearings, petitions, appeals, different circuits. Of course the Federal bench will meticulously observe every formality and protection for the sovereign state of Hawaii. As the Hawaiians leave and enter office, the process could also drag on for quite a while.


(2) After a Writ of Quo Warranto is answered, any decision of that court will be appealed to the SCOTUS, by either party to the proceeding.
2a: If Team Obama is making the appeal, it could be on strictly procedural grounds, avoiding the real issue of Constitutional eligibility altogether. That's possible.
2b:The SCOTUS may actually address the Constitutional Issue.


(3) The Congress may, or may not, use the SCOTUS decision as a grounds for Impeachment and Conviction.

Except to encourage the GOOD lawyers on this quest, to financially support them, and to keep the issue responsibly alive for our elected representatives (who show almost 0 enthusiasm for the cause), we must have a different focus.

Our real job is to accept the reality that there is no quick fix for the Obama Eligibility Problem. Now that he is the sitting President, fraud, criminal, or whatever; the Constitution he wrecked, actually now protects him. So we have to make sure that the Republicans who show up in DC after next November's elections actually have a plan to save the nation by reversing the trends begun by our marxist President. IOW, Obama won't be replaced and he certainly won't quit, so he has to be stopped cold by Congress. Can our guys handle that? Right now, IMHO that's a more important question than the obvious ineligibility issue.

More than likely, Obama could be with us until 2012. If we don't get the eligibility issued handled, there could well be a repeat. But if we don't get the national problems solved, things could actually get a whole lot worse.

I guess what I am saying is that IMNSHO, it might be a good idea to consider re-focusing our efforts. That is we have to stop endlessless fixating on the hypnotic minutiae and fascinating distracting details of the anti-constitutional coup Obama pulled off,and his mysterious personal history. Make sure we are taking our best legal shot by supporting those in the front line of the legal fight, and spend the rest of our time trying to make sure the Republicans who show up next fall know what the hell they are doing to rescue the country from disaster.

60 posted on 03/02/2010 7:02:40 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (Go-Go Donofrio. get us that Writ of Quo Warranto!)
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