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To: shortstop
I have to agree that this guy Massa is not to be trusted.

When I first heard his rant, I went searching the internet for a copy so I could send it to those I know who haven't turned against Obama yet.

But the locker room thing bothered me. I've been a men's locker room regular for more than half a century. I just came back from my gym. No guy I know would talk about missing curtains in the showers in his locker room. They simply do not exist; at least in any of the dozens of men's locker rooms I've been in. (Girls: I know you have them because in high school the visiting boys teams would use the girls locker room, at least when I was in high school.) And then he talked about how strange it was for him to have a political discussion with a naked man in his locker room. And I have to say I think it is more strange to notice how dressed or undressed someone is in the locker room. Those of us who discuss politics discuss politics. And once we get dressed we leave. Massa's story doesn't ring true, to me at least.

ML/NJ

20 posted on 03/09/2010 5:40:37 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj

The shower curtain story should be the easiest part of the Massa claims to prove or disprove. If there had been curtains, and now there isn’t, surely a Repub Rep. can confirm that part of the storey. If there had never been curtains, a dim can bring the curtain down on Massa real fast...


43 posted on 03/09/2010 5:57:13 AM PST by LRS (Just contracts; just laws; just a constitution...)
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To: ml/nj
But the locker room thing bothered me. I've been a men's locker room regular for more than half a century. I just came back from my gym. No guy I know would talk about missing curtains in the showers in his locker room. They simply do not exist; at least in any of the dozens of men's locker rooms I've been in. (Girls: I know you have them because in high school the visiting boys teams would use the girls locker room, at least when I was in high school.)

I am a woman, I've not spent any serious time in a men's locker room, but I did see the difference between the boy's and girl's version in high school, as you note, we had curtains, they didn't. I've seen college locker rooms, pro teams when the cameras go in to show us pre-game stuff, some after-game footage, I have never ever seen curtains or partitions of any kind in a men's locker room -- once upon a time I cleaned restrooms, I noted the ladies stalls had doors on them, the mens, nope, urinal right there as well.

In any kind of privacy discussion with my brothers, husband now, when I was younger I would ask them, "How can you just do that in front of other guys? Doesn't it bother you?" I have been told men/boys don't notice, don't look, there's no modesty question. Accepted -- and that is why this business of Massa and the lack of curtains in the House gym, I didn't understand the big deal he was making. Now, Rahm strolling in, literally butt nekkid, the poking a finger in the chest, to me that kind of power trip move, I wouldn't put past Rahm, but don't men walk around nekkid in locker rooms all the time? In full view of each other?? Is that really something that needs to be pointed out as so out of the ordinary??

73 posted on 03/09/2010 6:30:28 AM PST by MozarkDawg
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