Posted on 03/12/2010 10:20:47 AM PST by Blue Turtle
"What would Jesus do?" That's what many people in Boulder, Colo., are asking after a Catholic elementary school in the city expelled two children because their parents are lesbians.
The conflict in the Roman Catholic Church over homosexuality has come to loggerheads in the community, with the church standing by its belief that marriage is a pact between a man and a woman while opponents accuse it of failing to live up to Jesus’ mission of love and acceptance.
Sacred Heart of Jesus Church says it told the lesbian couple that their older child would be allowed to complete enrollment in kindergarten this year but would not be allowed to attend first grade in the fall. Their younger child will be allowed to finish preschool but can't enter kindergarten.
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My opinion is that the children should be in Catholic school, but the school should make it very clear that the children in the school will be taught God’s word at age appropriate levels about the sin of homosexuality.
Are you going to pretend that these kids are living in a normal family arrangement? I’m not holding THEM responsible for anything.
Agreed. Your post and others are very well said.
The children are already being used as a weapon against the Church, by the pervert “mothers.” Admitting them to further classes would only make this worse.
And I agree about some liberal “Catholic” teachers. One of them tried to teach my granddaughter that global warming would kill us all. A bunch of us parents got THAT changed.
There was a time when the Catholic Church would be perfectly comfortable allowing these kids into a Catholic school -- in cases where the parents' lifestyle or other dysfunctional attributes forced them to turn the kids over to the Church and had the Church raise the kids themselves.
Sure, and then the diocese, the school, and the Catholic church families can bear the expense of the lawsuit filed, when the poor children feel sad because their parents are dissed. You bet.
The children are being USED. They can go to another school.
Use your head. Your question completely misses the point.
The sad part of all of this is that I just recently met a parent with the OPPOSITE problem, here on the east side of San Francisco Bay. They were tired of the homosexual agenda in the public schools where their 5 or 6 year old child was attending - with no “opt-out” option available to parents.
As a result, this person, a Conservative Catholic, decided to withdraw their child from the public schools, and move the child to a nearby Catholic School. They wrote a letter to the public school stating that they were withdrawing their child, and explaining why.
When they applied to the Catholic School, they decided to submit with their application a copy of the letter they had sent to the public school, along with an explanation of why they wanted to enroll their child in the Catholic School. They explained in detail about wanting to protect their child from the homosexual agenda, all the while assuming that the Catholic School would be in complete sympathy with them.
Instead, and much to their shock, the Principal of the Catholic School contacted them, and essentially told them that due to their anti-homo views, they would not be able to enroll their child into that Catholic School. Furthermore, the principal informed them that there could be no appeal, that the decision was final. Since the Diocese has an appeal process in place to deal with such issues, the family assumed that the Principal had proactively gone to the Superintedant of the Diocese Catholic Schools, and that the two had already “gotten on the same page” with each other.
This is very shocking to say the least. This particular Diocese has just recently received a new Bishop - who is very Orthodox and Conservative. The family considered meeting with him to complain, and try to reverse the decision. In the end however, they decided not to fight it, and they instead enrolled their child in a Conservative Bapatist elementary school which is teaching all of the Conservative values that the Catholic Schools in this area SHOULD be teaching.
It is a shame that some Catholic Schools are just as entrenched in the homo agenda as the public schools. I hope and pray that our new Bishop will soon start dealing with these situations in the same way the Denver Bishop has.
The child is overseen by activist freaks who likely are ready to invade every school event and every parent event with their presence in order to create a scene and make everything about them.
Very different scenario than yours.
How does that excuse your “quote?”
That's a very different situation than what is happening in this case, because in this case "carrying the Church's message" to the two lesbians absolutely requires the Church to make it clear to the children that the Divine order of the world requires one of those two "parents" to get out of their lives.
Thanks for that response.
Now I am no serious theologian or anything (and don’t play one on TV), but my reading of Leviticus suggests that the penalty for adultery and the penalty for homosexuality are the same ... death.
Just wondering what calculus you are using to determine that homosexuality is worse than adultery.
I’m thinking your comment was directed to Papertyger.
Then why assume your understanding of Leviticus provides a conclusive answer?
Gotta be pedantic here: Homosexuality as an inclination only is not worse than adultery. It is a disorder and as such it may be an occasion for (NOT a cause of) great spiritual heroism.
Chronic adultery, a la Tiger Woods) is very serious.
But what we have in this case is two people who openly and unabashedly are contradicting Church teaching on matrimony and frankly proclaiming not just that they HAVE sinned but that what they did was not a sin and they mean to keep on doing it.
If someone were to have committed adultery one or more times, if he was contrite and intended amendment of life, that's one thing. If someone says that he and his wife both believe in "open marriage" and intend tonight and many other nights to come to have intercourse with people to whom they are not married, that would be closer to the situation in Boulder.
Then why assume your understanding of Leviticus provides a conclusive answer?
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It’s why I respectfully asked the question, partyger. Unfortunately, responses such as yours are all too common.
Are those people sinning openly? Are they putting forward the notion that fornication, etc., is a valid lifestyle choice? Are these people asking to be regularized? If so I agree with you to an extent.
No, not of sin. He taught us to love one another and also to repent, that is to turn away form our sin, not embrace it and try to elevate it some sort of non-sin semi sacrament status as many try to do with homosexuality. To not encourage a sinner to resist sin is to commit an act of outright hatred towards that person.
The openness of the sin has some bearing on how bad it is in the eyes of God?
Again, please note, I am asking not to ambush later, but to learn.
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