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‘They Just Want This Over’ (interview with Stupak)
National Review (The Corner) ^ | March 12, 2010 | Robert Costa

Posted on 03/12/2010 1:12:07 PM PST by reaganaut1

Sitting in an airport, on his way home to Michigan, Rep. Bart Stupak, a pro-life Democrat, is chagrined. “They’re ignoring me,” he says, in a phone interview with National Review Online. “That’s their strategy now. The House Democratic leaders think they have the votes to pass the Senate’s health-care bill without us. At this point, there is no doubt that they’ve been able to peel off one or two of my twelve. And even if they don’t have the votes, it’s been made clear to us that they won’t insert our language on the abortion issue.”

According to Stupak, that group of twelve pro-life House Democrats — the “Stupak dozen” — has privately agreed for months to vote ‘no’ on the Senate’s health-care bill if federal funding for abortion is included in the final legislative language. Now, in the debate’s final hours, Stupak says the other eleven are coming under “enormous” political pressure from both the White House and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D., Calif.). “I am a definite ‘no’ vote,” he says. “I didn’t cave. The others are having both of their arms twisted, and we’re all getting pounded by our traditional Democratic supporters, like unions.”

Stupak says he also doesn’t trust the “Slaughter solution,” a legislative maneuver being bandied about on Capitol Hill as a way to pass the Senate bill in the House without actually voting on it. “Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me,” he says. “I don’t have a warm-and-fuzzy feeling about what I’m hearing.”

Stupak notes that his negotiations with House Democratic leaders in recent days have been revealing. “I really believe that the Democratic leadership is simply unwilling to change its stance,” he says. “Their position says that women, especially those without means available, should have their abortions covered.” The arguments they have made to him in recent deliberations, he adds, “are a pretty sad commentary on the state of the Democratic party.”

What are Democratic leaders saying? “If you pass the Stupak amendment, more children will be born, and therefore it will cost us millions more. That’s one of the arguments I’ve been hearing,” Stupak says. “Money is their hang-up. Is this how we now value life in America? If money is the issue — come on, we can find room in the budget. This is life we’re talking about.”

If Obamacare passes, Stupak says, it could signal the end of any meaningful role for pro-life Democrats within their own party. “It would be very, very hard for someone who is a right-to-life Democrat to run for office,” he says. “I won’t leave the party. I’m more comfortable here and still believe in a role within it for the right-to-life cause, but this bill will make being a pro-life Democrat much more difficult. They don’t even want to debate this issue. We’ll probably have to wait until the Republicans take back the majority to fix this.”

“Throughout this debate, even when the House leaders have acknowledged us, it’s always been in a backhanded way,” he laments. “I’m telling the others to hold firm, and we’ll meet next week, but I’m disappointed in my colleagues who said they’d be with us and now they’re not. It’s almost like some right-to-life members don’t want to be bothered. They just want this over.”

And the politics of the issue are pretty rough. “This has really reached an unhealthy stage,” Stupak says. “People are threatening ethics complaints on me. On the left, they’re really stepping it up. Every day, from Rachel Maddow to the Daily Kos, it keeps coming. Does it bother me? Sure. Does it change my position? No.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: abortion; democrats; healthcare; stupak
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To: WHBates
Well, with that thought process on abortion how far of a leap would it be for these people to rationalize forced abortion to balance to HC budget or the entire national budget in future years?

Or how about sending some Black Panthers out to go house to house, and kill the firstborn of every family?

61 posted on 03/13/2010 9:21:33 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: longtermmemmory
(carosel will be prettier, with even an obama logo)


62 posted on 03/13/2010 9:26:30 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: SE Mom
Uhmmm...is this a joke? Is he being sarcastic?

IMHO he is not.

The costs have been researched. The comparisons made. The 'newborn' are at the bottom of the pile when measured by taxable income and production status.

Much better is to import new slaves (I mean working age socialist voters.) They may bring in some underage children, but they will be use to replace the aging baby-boomers who must be killed off before the new 'national' health care PLAN can start giving out benefits.

Of course, the taxing starts right away. We can't have the "ole wankers" get away with out paying for their government-planned EOD ceremony.


63 posted on 03/13/2010 9:50:31 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: ICAB9USA
NEW NHS Outpatient Clinic

Pre-diagnosis waiting line.

Attendance mandatory.


64 posted on 03/13/2010 9:56:44 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: nutmeg
The others are having both of their arms twisted, and we’re all getting pounded by our traditional Democratic supporters, like unions.”

And it's working if we're to believe Pelosi only needs 6 more votes. I'm getting so sick of FNC pundits telling us this week that there's a 50/50 chance; followed by there's only a 50/40 change what with the Parlimentarian ruling and now we learn she only needs 6 votes?? At this point I want it over with now, come what may.

65 posted on 03/13/2010 1:57:38 PM PST by StarFan
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To: UCANSEE2

lol


66 posted on 03/14/2010 3:49:10 AM PDT by ICAB9USA (We have to pass the Healthcare Bill so you can find out what's in it.)
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