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A New Low (Relations with Israel poor w/ Administration but popular as ever with American people)
Commentary Magazine ^ | March 13, 2010 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 03/13/2010 7:39:43 AM PST by Stoat

A New Low

JENNIFER RUBIN - 03.13.2010 - 10:17 AM

It is hard to imagine that U.S.-Israeli relations could have reached this point. But they have. The Washington Post aptly described where we stand: “Ties Plunge To A New Low.” In short, “relations with Israel have been strained almost since the start of the Obama administration. Now they have plunged to their lowest ebb since the administration of George H.W. Bush.” And there is no improvement in sight. After the public and private scolding by the vice president over the building of housing units in Jerusalem, Hillary Clinton continued the hollering, this time in a conversation with Bibi Netanyahu that was eagerly relayed to the media:

State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley described the nearly 45-minute phone conversation in unusually undiplomatic terms, signaling that the close allies are facing their deepest crisis in two decades after the embarrassment suffered by Vice President Biden this week when Israel announced during his visit that it plans to build 1,600 housing units in a disputed area of Jerusalem.

Clinton called Netanyahu “to make clear the United States considered the announcement a deeply negative signal about Israel’s approach to the bilateral relationship and counter to the spirit of the vice president’s trip,” Crowley said. Clinton, he said, emphasized that “this action had undermined trust and confidence in the peace process and in America’s interests.”

As the Post points out, the relationship has been rocky from the get-go. (”From the start of his tenure, President Obama identified a Middle East peace deal as critical to U.S. national security, but his efforts have been hampered by the administration’s missteps and the deep mistrust between the Israelis and the Palestinians.”) Actually, it is the mistrust between Israel and the U.S. that is at the nub of the problem. We hear that the Obami intend to use this incident to pressure Israel to “something that could restore confidence in the process and to restore confidence in the relationship with the United States.” And it is hard to escape the conclusion that the Obami are escalating the fight — making relations more tense and strained — to achieve their misguided objective, namely to extract some sort of unilateral concessions they imagine would pick the lock on the moribund “peace process.”

It’s mind boggling, really, that after this public bullying, the Obami expect the Israelis to cough up more concessions and show their faith in the American negotiators. And if by some miracle they did, what would that change? Where is the Palestinian willingness or ability to make a meaningful peace agreement?

In the midst of the administration’s temper tantrum, we find yet another reason for George W. Bush nostalgia: we used to get along so much better with Israel. Bush’s deputy national security adviser Elliott Abrams (who had the curious notion that a relationship of mutual respect and affection could encourage Israel to take risks for peace) writes:

The current friction in U.S.-Israel relations has one source: the mishandling of those relations by the Obama administration. Poll data show that Israel is as popular as ever among Americans. Strategically we face the same enemies — such as terrorism and the Iranian regime — a fact that is not lost on Americans who know we have one single reliable, democratic ally in the Middle East. … the Obama administration continues to drift away from traditional U.S. support for Israel. But time and elections will correct that problem; Israel has a higher approval rating these days than does President Obama.

Very true, but alas, both American voters and the Israelis must endure at least another few years of this. When the Obami talked of restoring our standing in the world and repairing frayed relations with allies, they plainly didn’t have Israel in mind. They have, through petulance and complete misunderstanding of the real barrier to peace, made hash out of the U.S.-Israeli relationship. Those who imagined we’d be getting smart diplomacy must now be chagrined to know how ham-handedly one can conduct foreign policy.



TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel
KEYWORDS: biden; clinton; israel; obama
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When the Obami talked of restoring our standing in the world and repairing frayed relations with allies, they plainly didn’t have Israel in mind.

Well, perhaps they did, although in a different way than what sane Americans would want.  For Zero and his hard-Left acolytes, kicking Israel to the curb represents an 'improvement in relations' with Hamas, Syria, the "palestinians", the Iranian mullahs and various other lunatic Islamofascist entities and sponsors of terrorism. 

This is all going in the manner that was expected, and the only ones surprised about it are those who actually believed Zero's teleprompter rhetoric.

1 posted on 03/13/2010 7:39:44 AM PST by Stoat
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2 posted on 03/13/2010 7:42:49 AM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Stoat

Well Americans always come to the aid of our friends...Bugger the government...


3 posted on 03/13/2010 7:45:32 AM PST by hstacey (An ounce of pretension is worth a pound of manure...)
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To: Stoat
I agree. No surprise that Obama is anti-Israel. and we already know how Hillary feels about the FJB's don't we.
4 posted on 03/13/2010 7:49:44 AM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: Stoat

And yet, the American Jewish vote will continue to go overwhelmingly to the political party that wants to see the destruction of Israel. I cannot figure out this collective death wish.


5 posted on 03/13/2010 7:52:39 AM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Enjoy nature - eat meat, wear fur and drive your car!)
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To: hstacey

The Fuhrer surrounds himself with Kapos; no surprises here.


6 posted on 03/13/2010 7:54:20 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: hstacey; All

Unfortunately, it appears that the next American Administration will not only be tasked with repairing the monumental economic and societal damage done to America by Zero’s thugs but the very real harm brought against our nearest and dearest international friends and allies as well.

I believe, however, that the Israeli Government understands that America is a far better Nation than what is being represented by the current ‘administration’ and will do its best to hold things together until the American people can bring some adults back to the White House once again.

Who knows....with the intentions and stance of Zero’s ‘administration’ toward Israel all too clear, perhaps Israel will surmise that there’s not much to lose diplomatically on the US front and might take the opportunity to do some much-needed ‘housecleaning’ in neighboring regions. I’ll be cheering for them if they do, as will the vast majority of Americans, I’ll wager.


7 posted on 03/13/2010 8:01:33 AM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

And yet, the American Jewish vote will continue to go overwhelmingly to the political party that wants to see the destruction of Israel. I cannot figure out this collective death wish.


It’s infuriating, isn’t it. Left to a preponderance of American Jews, Israel would have been overrun and every Jew there drowned in the Sea of Haifa decades ago.

But hoping for Jews to give up the ghost of FDR and the Dhimmicrats is like expecting the Vatican to side with the US military as it liberates another population. Certain blocs and entities are hopeless and not worth the effort. Unfortunately, it is now true of Britain too. Our once great ally, going going....


8 posted on 03/13/2010 8:04:42 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Stoat

None of this is surprising. The Marxist Obama understands that the linchpin democracies out on the frontier, Israel, Taiwan, Colombia, South Korea, Iraq and others eventually must be undercut for a neo-communist empire to be built.


9 posted on 03/13/2010 8:07:15 AM PST by PaleoBob
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Liberal jewish voters are secular. For the most part they don’t care about the fate of Israel.

Even inside Israel there are those leftists who side with the Palestinian terrorists.


10 posted on 03/13/2010 8:11:23 AM PST by Carley (Are you better off now than one year ago? HELL NO!!!!!)
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I'm sure it's either a misunderstanding, or due to Israelis' racism.
Obama bows down to Saudi King | American Thinker | April 02, 2009 | Clarice Feldman | Posted on 04/02/2009 8:19:47 AM PDT by rdb3
Obama bows down to Saudi King | American Thinker | April 02, 2009 | Clarice Feldman | Posted on 04/02/2009 8:19:47 AM PDT by rdb3

11 posted on 03/13/2010 9:58:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Stoat

Well, they are our best defense over in the middle east and I also would cheer if they did some much needed house cleaning..GO BEBE!!!!


12 posted on 03/13/2010 11:24:07 AM PST by hstacey (An ounce of pretension is worth a pound of manure...)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

No surprise at all about our “Scum bag in Chief”...


13 posted on 03/13/2010 11:24:47 AM PST by hstacey (An ounce of pretension is worth a pound of manure...)
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To: Stoat
Obama has not set foot inside Israel since becoming president. Instead he sends Joe Biden—the political equivalent of Crazy Guggenheim. This was a major insult.
14 posted on 03/13/2010 3:15:02 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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15 posted on 03/13/2010 7:07:19 PM PST by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: PaleoBob
But hoping for Jews to give up the ghost of FDR and the Dhimmicrats is like expecting the Vatican to side with the US military as it liberates another population.

The Vatican, after first equivocating, did side with us in Iraq several months after we invaded. It said we had a moral duty to liberate the people. And, of course, the Vatican not just sided with but was essential in our fight against the Soviet Union.

16 posted on 03/13/2010 7:11:46 PM PST by Brugmansian
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To: PaleoBob

The Irish, Scots, and Welsh in the UK The issue is Grievance Politics. Grievance politics unites disparate minorities in unthinking opposition to the majority, even against rational self interest. The politics of grievance is an unthinking ersatz ethnic loyalty, wherein one defines oneself in opposition, rather than in being. It leads Jews to support political correctness, immigration of Muslims, and Third Worldism, even though these are all against their rational self interest as an Americans or as a Jews. It leads black leaders to support immigration, liberal social politics, and objectively failing education and social models.
Alienation and grievance politics leads immigrants to support many of the policies they fled from. (This isn’t just a minority issue. Think how many liberal economic emigres overwhelm formerly conservative areas. They flee taxes but demand the social welfare state, spreading the disease.) The children of immigrant minorities are inherently alienated. (I know, I am one, despite being brought up among the NY elite.) They benefit from affirmative action and see government as their protector against the majority. Any failure of the state to create a perfect life for them is not the failure of the nanny state but the fault of conservatives and the majority.


17 posted on 03/13/2010 7:27:40 PM PST by rmlew (The left has elected a new nation with the help of neoconservatives and libertarians.)
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To: SJackson
Thank you very much for pinging your list  :-)

 Thank You

18 posted on 03/13/2010 7:59:17 PM PST by Stoat (Sarah Palin 2012: A Strong America Through Unapologetic Conservatism)
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To: Brugmansian

The Vatican, after first equivocating, did side with us in Iraq several months after we invaded. It said we had a moral duty to liberate the people. And, of course, the Vatican not just sided with but was essential in our fight against the Soviet Union.


Yes, I agree, they came kicking and screaming where Iraq was concerned. As for the Sovs, JP II was the driving force behind the Vatican’s anti-Soviet actions. Among the lesser lights, there were many communist sympathizers there throughout the Cold War. Institutionally, the Vatican tends to be liberal to socialist in its outlook. When push comes to shove, it’s not of much help.


19 posted on 03/13/2010 7:59:19 PM PST by PaleoBob
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To: rmlew

There’s a lot of merit in what you say.


20 posted on 03/13/2010 8:06:49 PM PST by PaleoBob
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