Posted on 03/15/2010 4:54:44 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
Congress has tried ye ole bait-and-switch before:
In 2007, Reid tried to use an old version of the Comprehensive Immigration Reform act to vote on, with the understanding that a new version would replace it [and not have to be voted on], once the new version was written.
Senators said ‘no way’. They wanted to vote on the real bill, not a substitute stack of paper.
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[Reid, Durbin and a couple other senators had previous slipped in a bunch of new amendments just before one version was to be voted on. None of the other senators had read those amendments. That version lost the votes to pass.]
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The truth is the truth and needs to be spoken whenever it is denied!
Are you kidding? Last evening on ABC network news they did a piece on the democ'Rats upcoming health care vote finishing it off with a sob Miami hospital story where indigent & probably at least a few illegals were complaining about not being able to get the medical care they needed (or not being able to pay for it). It goes back to the valid argument ... health care works for 85% of Americans ... the liberal media focuses on the 15% fringe element.
“Its been a shell game from the beginning!!!”
I agree....the democrat criminals never intended to let this thing go without the “public option”. They envision full-blown single-payer and this is the camel’s nose under the tent.
“House Rules strips content and inserts Senate Bill”
This is the bill that will modify the senate bill once the senate bill becames law. The senate bill will be deemed passed via Slaugher option and Bambi will sign it. This bill on the other hand will have to be voted on in the senate via reconciliation (51 votes).
"TRUST US"
BUMP!
I’m not saying public option will or won’t be in what the committee propounds - just that the bill language that is now in public circulation is NOT the bill that will be put before the House.
Right. This bill will be modified as it goes through committee, like any other bill.
OFCS! Are we going to stand for this process?
I’m serious. Not another rant. Are we going to DO anything or just sit here and take this? Don’t rely on the SCOTUS to undo this. They’re totally unpredictable.
I think the time to act has come. It’s time to organize and we have to remove those people from the capital, physically, by disrupting and shutting down the House chamber, then let’s get it on.
"Modified" is an understatement.
HR 3590 was "modified" by the Senate with a substitute amendment. "Before" and "After" modification were completely different.
This is all a joke and sham anyways to fool the idiotic members of the blue dog democrats into supporting the Senate Health Care bill. As soon as it’s voted on, Obama will sign it and they could care less of the reconcilliation bill ever sees the light of day. It gives the blue dogs an excuse come election time. Well, I voted on the first bill but the changes never got through. The reconcilliation bill would have fixed everything but it was stopped by those evil republicans...
Beware the Ides of March, Congress
So what? You going to threaten them with ALL CAPS!? LOL. what a joke we've all become.
They've been isolating us from our neighbors for decades. Nobody came to the aid on principle of the Branch Davidians, or the Bonus Marchers for that matter.
If the Alamo were to happen today, the press would turn it into a bunch of "religious zealots" and "gun nuts" with a "stockpile of unregistered weapons" bought with a "loophole" and probably "child molesters" and "polygamists" to boot.
There will be no heroes. Only villians. The last people to forcibly attack Congress were sent into a Pennsylvania field, remember?
Defeat Obamacare call list: List now contains the new MAYBES culled from FR posts. Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.
KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE
Code Red - House Target List on Health Care
The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obamas announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the fixer bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.
Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699
Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295
Rep. Bart Gordon 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986
John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)
Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131
Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District
Gabrielle Giffords (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 AZ 8th District
Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District
Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District
John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District
Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District
Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District
Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District
Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District
Mark Schauer (202) 225-6276 (517) 780-9075 MI 7th District
Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District
Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District
Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District
Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District
John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District
Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District
James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District
Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District
Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District
Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District
Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District
Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District
Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District
Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District
Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District
Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District
John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District
Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District
Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District
Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District
Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District
Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)
Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)
senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE
Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,
Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)
On the Bubble (Major developments from the yes and no columns in the House)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2467046/posts
Congressional Dems on Twitter
http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter
And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.
At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote yes for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senators office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.
When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senators office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senators answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!
We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!
1-800-828-0498 , 1-866-220-0044, 1-866-338-1015, 877-851-6437, 877-210-5351
“The citizens of Venezuela didnt rise up and slap him down at his first constitutional overreach.”
We must not let this stand.
Protest tomorrow around the nation:
http://teapartypatriots.org/
Call, call, call and SCREAM and demand our Republican leaders scream about this:
http://nrcc.org/codered/targets/
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2466657/posts?page=37#37
Ah well. I’m just a scrounger. I got Ashcroft’s “Never Again” for one dollar.
What are you talking about? Have you seen how many people showed up at the capitol at the last march?
Do you really think there aren’t enough willing people among them to stop this by occupying and disrupting the House chamber?
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