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Anything but moderate
NY Post ^ | March 19, 2010 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 03/19/2010 3:05:09 AM PDT by Scanian

One of President Obama's great political gifts is his moderate demeanor -- cool, reasoned, self-contained. It masks the frank immoderation of everything about his final push on health-care reform.

His liberal admirers call him a centrist. He hasn't tried to pass a single-payer system, has he? But Obama is in Washington, not Ottawa. Single-payer couldn't pos sibly pass. Nor could the public option, which he supported until it reached its absolute expiration date. These aren't principled acts of centrism; they're unexceptional adjustments to reality.

Obama supports the leftmost plausible bill. It's as expansive and expensive as possible without getting so big it's utterly impossible to stuff through Congress.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: healthcare; leftism; obama; radicalism

1 posted on 03/19/2010 3:05:10 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
This, from the article, is the single most confounding thing about Obama...
A more cautious and shrewd leader would avoid making easily falsifiable representations or putting himself on the hook in this way. Not Obama. On health care, he's immoderate in his substance, his risk-taking and his rhetoric. He's all in -- and he doesn't care.

He lies with absolute abandon...and he doesn't seem to care that the world is watching.

That speaks volumes, and not just about the man's character. What kind of man is it that doesn't care that he's exposing himself as such a HUGE liar?

As has been said before, God seeks man's transformation (by changing his heart)...Satan merely seeks his (man's) domination. I think we can see clearly which side Obama is on.

When domination is the goal, the ends justifies any means...and big lies are just the beginning!

2 posted on 03/19/2010 3:25:11 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Let's think about this just one second.

Putting aside the lying, I know exactly WHY he's doing this - He can!!!

Obama is a socialist. The American people voted for this prick, without regard, now they have to live with it! We told them who he was and what he would do, but more votes were cast for him.

Obama is legislating the way gutless ass republicans would never attempt to. Republicans would never do what they think is right regardless of the political consequences. Because Obama has to lie and use unscrupulous deals to move forward, that's where I would draw the line, but he is policy making and dictating exactly the way we all thought he would.

I'm sorry, I love this country, but America deserves exactly what is gets here...You want a king, you're going to get one!

3 posted on 03/19/2010 3:48:32 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: Scanian

Eff his demeanor. He’s an arrogant, effite, thug. He’s not cool, he’s indifferent. That calm demeanor or whatever they want to call it is very easily disrupted when he doesn’t get his way.

And he is NOT going to get HIS way with MY country.


4 posted on 03/19/2010 3:55:45 AM PDT by SueRae
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To: Scanian

re: He lies with absolute abandon

And he does it by using the old tried and true “say yes, do no” approach. Say yes, do no is a very effective tactic used frequently by liberals. Most of us don’t want to believe someone would lie to us, so it takes us a while to figure out what’s happening. But by that time, much harm has been done, and the opponent on the road to getting the upper hand.

One thing that makes the approach so successful is that it requires us first to recognize that the actions don’t match the words, and secondly that it takes a definite mental action to displace the incorrect grasp we have of the situation. A lot of us simply won’t take the time or make the effort to discern the truth and then act on the realization. It’s especially difficult when the words being spoken are exactly what we want to hear or believe.


5 posted on 03/19/2010 4:08:35 AM PDT by jwparkerjr
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To: sirchtruth
I don't think America wants a king.

45+-% of Americans were strongly against Obama and some percentage (enough to tilt the scales in his favor) were stupid enough to think Obama would govern as a centrist. And African-Americans as a whole didn't even think about the subject of governance, they backed Obama purely because of his race.

Obama tricked America with his lies during the campaign and now he pushing his Satanic agenda (one of dominance) with his continued deceit and obfuscation.

IMO, Obama is pure demonic evil...and, whatever the country may or may not deserve, we have a war on our hands of Biblical proportions.

6 posted on 03/19/2010 4:11:52 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: Scanian

Obama lies with reckless abandon because, in the past, he has gotten away with it!

The media, public and party have all given Obama pass after pass after pass for his words.


7 posted on 03/19/2010 4:41:05 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Obama tricked America with his lies during the campaign and now he pushing his Satanic agenda (one of dominance) with his continued deceit and obfuscation.

I don't buy that for one second! Did he really trick you? Did you actually believe him???? People are like you, they are not stupid! Obama didn't trick anybody. Our society is sick because we've pushed standards aside. No one believes lying is wrong or bad anymore. People ignore what they don't want to believe. They are selfish...

Don't blame Obama for America's selfish attitude, lack of standards, or lapse of judgment! Obama is doing what he should be doing. He believes in his socialist agenda, he won the election, and now right or wrong, he is going to use his political advantage. I don't blame him for that!!

Republicans take note!

8 posted on 03/19/2010 4:44:48 AM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free)
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To: Scanian
Kill the Bill Mega Rally at the Capitol, noon Saturday until ???

Note the walking-distance metro stop. Park anywhere and ride the metro in.

Or drive around the Capitol and gridlock traffic while honking thousand of car horns.

9 posted on 03/19/2010 4:48:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: sirchtruth
I don't buy that for one second! Did he really trick you? Did you actually believe him????

He didn't trick me because I am a conservative and saw him for what he was.

But, for example, my next door neighbor is a black man (served in Iraq with the Guard). He was caught up in the excitement of electing an African American. BTW, he is sorry now.

While you are certainly right about the selfishness and decline of values in America (among some, not all of her citizens), it is clear that Obama was using some variation of neurolinguistic programming (NLP) to "sell" himself at the unconscious level. BTW, even effective salesmen might use such techniques, but not to the extent and on such a large, easily hypnotized audience as was available to Obama. NLP would be a tool quickly taken up by any socialist whose desire is domination and not true leadership.

This again points to the fact that Obama used deceit at every opportunity to "trick" his audience.

While there may be some who agree with his socialist agenda, I believe they are in the (not so insignificant) minority.

10 posted on 03/19/2010 5:00:30 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

The fact is he’s a bad liar.

Bubba was very artful in his machinations but Zer0 is extremely obvious. If a listener will simply believe the opposite of what 0 says, he will be on solid ground. He’s that bad.

The transparency of Obama’s lies has been the only thing transparent coming out of his administration.


11 posted on 03/19/2010 5:11:28 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: SueRae

I agree. And I’m sick and tired of hearing the LSM say that the majority of Americans find him “likeable” and “appealing” and are crazy about his creepy wife.

That’s total BS. Since when are Americans attracted to liars, sneaks, and traitors?


12 posted on 03/19/2010 5:18:47 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian
Ain't it the truth! He's not even a good liar.
13 posted on 03/19/2010 5:19:29 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: Erik Latranyi

Plus in the past his audience has consisted mainly of nutroots, ghetto dwellers, and union goofballs - all of whom eat up his leftist demagoguery and lies.


14 posted on 03/19/2010 5:33:06 AM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

If you can’t go to DC, then go to their local offices, or hold street corner rallies in front of a nursing home, or SS office. Be sure to put your signs on sticks you can then rest on, hands will cramp. Take photos, call media, talk radio, program them into your phones. Take a supply of magic markers, and a bull horn if you have access to one. Hit the Medicare cut & gut theme..nothing like mad grannies and gramps. VA Cuts, taxes on special needs kids...35 new taxes.

Pass it on! There is $500 BILLION in Cuts to Medicare, SS, Huge fees for Tricare for Life, the over 65 retired Military’s health ins. 8% cuts to Medicare benefits, 15% cuts to nursing homes, cuts to in home nursing care of Medicare patients. 35 NEW taxes to be collected for 4 years BEFORE the health care promised goes into effect! Even a tax on Special Needs Kids, like Jerry’s Kids.

Call all your Reps today.........raise as much noise about the Medicare cut & Gut to give illegals FREE health care and our jobs as you can...it’s CRUNCH TIME to save the soul of America. He’s now promising LaRaza free health care for illegals and more jobs.

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan
http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

Repeal Obamacare? Unlikely

OBAMA PROPOSAL THREATENS TO DENY SENIOR CITIZENS ABILITY TO USE OWN MONEY TO SAVE THEIR OWN LIVES
http://www.nrlc.org/press_releases_new/Release022210b.html

http://townhall.com/columnists/DavidHarsanyi/2010/03/10/repeal_obamacare_unlikely
Obama spent last week campaigning for health care reform, at one point getting some college-age fans worked up about all the free stuff — “free” preventive care and “free” checkups and so forth — they would receive if his version of health care reform passed.

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

Walgreens: no new Medicaid patients as of April 16

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2011367936_walgreens18m.html
Survey in New England Journal of Medicine Says 46% of US Doctors Will Quit If Obamacare Passes

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2798380/shocking_survey_in_new_england_journal.html?cat=75

CBO: Obamacare Would Cost Over $2 Trillion
Weekly Standard ^ | March 18, 2010 | Jeffrey Anderson

Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2010 6:02:44 PM

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/cbo-obamacare-would-cost-over-2-trillion

The numbers are also listed on Rush’s page.

Here is one of the ones he gave out on the radio that I’m calling. So far it’s been busy but I’m going to burn it up till I get to tell my congress critter to vote NO!

Join me?..... 1-877-762-8762

They may have busied it out, or we overloaded it. Regular numbers are busy too.

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

Toll free to the US Senate:

1-800-882-2005. (Spanish number)

1-800-417-7666. (English number)

Courtesy of a pro-amnesty group, no less!!

Defeat Obamacare call list: Be sure to call KNOWN RINOS too.THEY ARE ANSWERING THEIR LOCAL NUMBERS

Here is one of the ones Rush gave out on the radio that I’m calling. So far it’s been busy but I’m going to burn it up till I get to tell my congress critter to vote NO!

Join me?..... 1-877-762-8762

KEEP THE CALLS UP! DC OFFICE LOCAL OFFICE

CODE RED Contact list http://www.nrcc.org/CodeRed/targets/

Remember they are all being offered BRIBES for their votes. Ask them how much their bribe price is.

The National Republican Congressional Committee has published a target list on health care. In addition to continuing to contact the five Tennessee Democrat Congressmen, you can go http://www.votervoice.net/link/clickthrough/ext/94697.aspx to contact some of these targets. Much of the talk following Obama’s announcement has focused on how to defeat this second bill through reconciliation, but that is misleading because the first step to defeating Obamacare is not by concentrating on defeating the “fixer” bill but by defeating the Senate bill in the House when it goes to the floor for an up-or-down vote on Thursday, March 18th.

RUSH says to pressure these 2

Charles Wilson, Ohio Toll Free Number 888-706-1833 DC (202) 225-5705 fx: (202) 225-5907, Bridgeport, (740) 633-5705 fx: (740) 633-5727, Canfield, (330) 533-7250 fx: (330) 533-7136 Marietta, : (740) 376-0868 fx: (740) 376-0886 Ironton, (740) 533-9423 fx: (740) 533-9359 Wellsville, 330) 532-3740

Joe Cao DC (202) 225-6636 Fax: (202) 225-1988, NO (504) 483-2325 Fax: (504) 483-7944

New FLIPPERS

Rep. Bart Gordon TN 202-225-4231 Murfreesboro office: 615-896-1986, 931-528-5907, 615-451-5174

Mark Schauer D.C. (202) 225-6276 Fax: (202) 225-6281 Jackson, MI (517) 780-9075
Fax: (517) 780-9081 Toll-Free: (877) 737-6407

Dennis Kucinish, Lakewood 216)228-8850, Fax (216)228-6465,

Parma. 440)845-2707, Fax (440)845-2743, DC (202)225-5871

Dennis Cardoza DC (202) 225-6131, Fax: 225-0819, 800-356-6424, Merced, (209) 383-4455 Fax: 726-1065 Modesto 209) 527-1914 Fax: 527-5748 Modesto, (209) 527-1914

Fax: 527-5748

Jim Costa Fresno 559-495-1620, Fax:559-495-1027, Bakersfeld, 661-869-1620 Fax: 661-869-1027 DC Phone:202-225-3341 Fax: 202-225-9308 Fax (202)225-5745

James Oberstar MN (202) 225-6211, Duluth (218) 727-7474, Chisholm (218) 254-5761, Brainerd (218) 828-4400, North Branch, (651) 277-1234

Gabrielle Giffords AZ (202) 225-2542 (520) 881-3588 8th District

John Boccieri (D), Ohio Voted Yes on Stupak, NO on Health Care.Contact info - DC office (202) 225-3876 - Fax - (202) 225-3059 (330) 489-4414, Local Fax - (330) 489-4448

Betsy Markey DC 202.225.4676, fx. 202.225.5870, Ft. Collins, 970.221.7110fx 970.221.7240, Greeley, 970.351.6007 fx 970.351.6068, Lamar, 719.931.4003
fx 719.931.4005, Sterling, 970.522.0203 fx 970.522.1783

rec’d from NCTeaParty.com — Despite earlier assurances that he was a NO on health care reform and would not change his mind, Rep. Heath Shuler, NC 11, is now undecided.

Rep. Heath Shuler, North Carolina 11th

http://shuler.house.gov/ DC Office Number: (202) 225-6401, DC Fax Number: (202) 226-6422 Local Office Number: (828) 252-1651, Local Fax Number: (828) 252-8734 Chief of Staff: Hayden Rogers email: hayden.rogers@mail.house.gov

Rep. Lincoln Davis 202-225-6831 Columbia office: 931-490-8699

Rep. Jim Cooper 202-225-4311 Nashville office: 615-736-5295

John Tanner (202) 225-4714, Union City, (731) 885-7070, Jackson Phone: (731) 423-4848, Millington (901) 873-5690 TN (MAYBE)

Rep. Steve Cohen 202-225-3265 Memphis office: 901-544-4131

Harry Mitchell (202) 225-2190 (480) 946-2411 AZ 5th District

Ann Kirkpatrick (202) 225-2315 (928) 226-6914 AZ 1st District

Jerry McNerney (202) 225-1947 925-833-0643 CA 11th District

John Salazar 202-225-4761 970-245-7107 CO 3rd District

Jim Himes (202) 225-5541 (866) 453-0028 CT 4th District

Alan Grayson (202) 225-2176 (407) 841-1757 FL 8th District

Bill Foster (202) 225-2976 630-406-1114 IL 14th District

Baron Hill 202 225 5315 812 288 3999 IN 9th District

Gary Peters (202) 225-5802 (248) 273-4227 MI 9th District

Dina Titus (202) 225-3252 702-256-DINA (3462) NV 3rd District

Carol Shea-Porter (202) 225-5456 (603) 743-4813 NH 1st District

Tim Bishop (202) 225-3826 (631) 696-6500 NY 1st District

John Hall (202) 225-5441 (845) 225-3641 x49371 NY 19th District

Bill Owens (202) 225-4611 (315) 782-3150 NY 23rd District

James Matheson Toll-Free Number 1 (877) 677-9743 (202) 225-3011Mike Arcuri (202)225-3665 (315)793-8146 NY 24th District

Dan Maffei (202) 225-3701 (315) 423-5657 NY 25th District

Earl Pomeroy (202) 225-2611 (701) 224-0355 ND At-Large District

Steven Driehaus (202) 225-2216 (513) 684-2723 OH 1st District

Mary Jo Kilroy (202) 225-2015 (614) 294-2196 OH 15th District

Zach Space (202) 225-6265 (330) 364-4300 OH 18th District

Kathy Dahlkemper (202) 225-5406 (814) 456-2038 PA 3rd District

Patrick Murphy (202) 225-4276 (215) 826-1963 PA 8th District

Christopher Carney (202) 225-3731 (570) 585-9988 PA 10th District

Paul Kanjorski (202) 225-6511 (570) 825-2200 PA 11th District

John Spratt (202) 225-5501 (803)327-1114 SC 5th District

Tom Perriello (202) 225-4711 (276) 656-2291 VA 5th District

Alan Mollohan (202) 225-4172 (304) 623-4422 WVA 1st District

Nick Rahall (202) 225-3452 (304) 252-5000 WVA 3rd District

Steve Kagen (202) 225-5665 (920) 437-1954 WI 8th District

Bart Stupak (202) 225 4735 MI (MAYBE)

Brian Baird (202) 225-3536, Vancouver, (360) 695-6292. Olympia, (360) 352-9768, (MAYBE)

senator mark begich (202) 224-3004 toll free. (877) 501 - 6275 just became a MAYBE

Jason Altmire 202-225-2565, Aliquippa, 724-378-0928,

Natrona Heights, 724-226-1304 (MAYBE)

Congressional Dems on Twitter

http://www.arrghpaine.com/congressional-dems-on-twitter

And here are toll-free numbers we can use to call any Senators or Reps.

At the first number below you must wait through a tape recording urging you to tell your Rep or Senator to vote “yes” for the health care bill. Just hang on and when the recording is over, you will get the Capitol operator. Just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Then you will either talk to an aid or have the chance to leave a message for him/her to vote NO on the health care bill.

When you use the second number and the Capitol operator comes on, just ask for your Rep or Senator’s office. Every time I use this number I get the Rep or Senator’s answer machine, so it may be set up that way all the time...to go to their answer machine. Either way you can leave a message to vote NO on the health care bill!

We need to use these toll free numbers that have been set up for the health care/ BO supporters and illegals to use! After all they are FREE!

1-866-220-0044, 1-866-338-1015, 877-851-6437, 877-210-5351


15 posted on 03/19/2010 7:22:06 AM PDT by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

He lies with absolute abandon...and he doesn’t seem to care that the world is watching.

The world may be watching, but if there’s no one reporting his lies, they’re just watching ‘the truth’ (little t).


16 posted on 03/19/2010 9:11:34 AM PDT by Ro_Thunder ("Other than ending SLAVERY, FASCISM, NAZISM and COMMUNISM, war has never solved anything")
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