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One Thing That's 100% Guaranteed: The Healthcare Bill Will NEVER Be Repealed
The Business Insider ^ | 3-22-2010 | Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 03/22/2010 7:15:03 AM PDT by blam

One Thing That's 100% Guaranteed: The Healthcare Bill Will NEVER Be Repealed

Joe Weisenthal
Mar. 22, 2010, 9:36 AM

Already Republicans plan on introducing a bill this week to repeal last night's historic healthcare vote.

Obviously that's going nowhere.

But looking out, Republicans will probably try to run on repeal in the runup until November. It's possible that will play okay at the ballot (we don't know) but anyone who thinks this is a realistic prospect is smoking something illegal.

First of all, to repeal the vote would be just as difficult legislatively as passing healthcare was, so just think of how hard that was. Republicans would need 60 pro-repeal votes in the Senate to defeat a Democratic filibuster. And remember, they'd need a President who wouldn't veto the bill (i.e. not Obama or any Democrat).

But even that's putting too fine a point on it. Here's the real story, and it gets down to the fact that this new bureaucratic superstructure is now permanently ossified into our federal government.

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(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 111th; benefits; bhohealthcare; deathcare; deathpanels; healthcare; obamacare; politics; repeal; romneycare
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1 posted on 03/22/2010 7:15:03 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Sad. Let’s get out of this rotting hell hole. Problem is, I can’t think of a better country to move to.


2 posted on 03/22/2010 7:16:56 AM PDT by robert561
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To: blam

Never say never.


3 posted on 03/22/2010 7:17:08 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: blam

it can likely be taken down piecemeal....courts striking down parts of it, GOP majorities starving other parts of it from funding, tax revolts against taxes to fund it, etc.
Maybe not repeal but 85% neutering. (Odds are eventually you would have gotten a Republican bill dealing with pre-existing conditions, etc.)


4 posted on 03/22/2010 7:17:53 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: robert561
I can’t think of a better country to move to.

Call your state legislature and MAKE ONE.

5 posted on 03/22/2010 7:18:16 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: blam
Protesting the Stamp Act in BostonThey said the Stamp Act would never be repealed either.
6 posted on 03/22/2010 7:18:23 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: blam

I’m certain Joe Weisenthal is defeated. The rest of us will fight to the end.


7 posted on 03/22/2010 7:18:25 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINOS)
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To: blam

Never say never.


8 posted on 03/22/2010 7:18:33 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: blam

FDR tried to cram this crap down the throats of Americans in 1933. On May 27, 1935, the NRA was found to be unconstitutional by a unanimous decision of the U.S. Supreme Court in Schechter Poultry Corp. v. United States.

Don't tell me this is hopeless.

9 posted on 03/22/2010 7:18:34 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: blam

To be repealed, it first must become law. It will not become law until the question of constitutionality is settled.

This bill will NEVER become law, unless the constitution is overthrown.


10 posted on 03/22/2010 7:18:35 AM PDT by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: blam

The GOP would need at least 70 or more senators and 300 or more representatives to even consider a repeal of this. Given their track record of not only never repealing any entitlements when they had the power to do so, but also creating new entitlements when they had the power to do so, I would not put any stock in them to repeal this.


11 posted on 03/22/2010 7:18:36 AM PDT by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: blam

Stop posting Dem propganda. McCain Feingold was gutted.


12 posted on 03/22/2010 7:19:04 AM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: blam

DO the Republicans ever even try to repeal any government programs? All they ever do is play defense which assures long-term loss. The democrats have been working on this for decades and all GOP ever did was try to stop it. What they should have been doing was aggressively fighting against current government programs and interference. But, but, the would have lost elections. You have to admire the Dems. They were not concerned about November. Just full speed ahead and act on their evil principles.


13 posted on 03/22/2010 7:19:29 AM PDT by all the best
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To: blam

Difficult, yes. Impossible, no.


14 posted on 03/22/2010 7:19:44 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: blam

Hell No! We are coming and we are going to kick your ass!


15 posted on 03/22/2010 7:20:02 AM PDT by ohiobuckeye1997
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To: SoFloFreeper

‘zackly.
No sitting legislature can force its will on a future body.


16 posted on 03/22/2010 7:20:22 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: blam

One way or another socialism is always self-repealing. At some point the money has to run out.

The only question is whether when the Titanic sinks there are any lifeboats.


17 posted on 03/22/2010 7:20:23 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (TATBO - "Throw All The Bums Out")
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To: blam

That’s like saying no one could stop Hitler. So, just let the camps continue.


18 posted on 03/22/2010 7:20:31 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead (Clean the RAT/RINO Sewer in 2010 and 2012)
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To: blam
Of course it won't be repealed. Once an entitlement is given, that's it. Just TRY & take it back.

Haven't you heard....Welfare is now a legitimate career choice.

19 posted on 03/22/2010 7:20:35 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: blam

why not....it wont cover anyone for a few years...so why can’t it be repealed...or better yet found unconstitutional.


20 posted on 03/22/2010 7:20:35 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: stephenjohnbanker

I’m certain Joe Weisenthal is defeated. The rest of us will fight to the end.
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Amen, brother.


21 posted on 03/22/2010 7:20:49 AM PDT by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

One good thing about the bill is the taxes and penalties start right away but the benefits don’t start until 2114.
It could be repealed in 2112 if Chairman O is defeated.


22 posted on 03/22/2010 7:20:50 AM PDT by Mr. Right Now
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To: blam

I don’t believe that. This bill can be repealed. The majority of the American public didn’t want it, and got it rammed down their throat by arrogant Democratic politicians. Allow me to borrow a remark from the Marxist Joe Hill: “Don’t mourn, organize”.


23 posted on 03/22/2010 7:20:50 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Yes, we disagree - no, we won't shut up - no, we won't quit.)
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To: blam

snip snip then, let’s get this hound dog neutered


24 posted on 03/22/2010 7:20:58 AM PDT by silverleaf ("Congress is America's only native criminal class."- Mark Twain)
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To: blam

Joe Weisenthal is just one more enemy that needs to be overcome.


25 posted on 03/22/2010 7:21:05 AM PDT by DManA
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To: SoCal Pubbie

It was voted in on a partyline vote, a HUGE BILL that impacts this entire nation....NO VOTE of such immense importance and impact SHOULD EVER be at the mercy of one tyrannical majority. There should have been a SEVENTY FIVE percent vote needed...just basically.


26 posted on 03/22/2010 7:21:18 AM PDT by Republic (Stop the horrific liberals in congress before they destroy our nation.)
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To: robert561

Maybe we can get Texas to secede and move down there.

I don’t even recognize this country anymore.


27 posted on 03/22/2010 7:21:26 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (American exceptionalism - for liberals, it's like garlic to a vampire)
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To: all the best

DO the Republicans ever even try to repeal any government programs?
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Time for the conservatives to work and not stop working until we win.


28 posted on 03/22/2010 7:21:45 AM PDT by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: blam
We are drawing inexorably closer to the Montesquieu Moment: Democracy will endure until the citizenry detects that they can VOTE themselves benefits...

WHY ELECT SEMI-REPUBLICANS...? Can someone answer me that? What price, "Compassionate Conservativism"..?

29 posted on 03/22/2010 7:21:55 AM PDT by TokuMei
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To: blam

Use “Cloward-Piven” strategies on the Kenyan’s programs and tank them..


30 posted on 03/22/2010 7:23:02 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: blam

A single no vote is not enough. Any republican who does not actively work to repeal must be counted in the enemy camp and not supported in any way.


31 posted on 03/22/2010 7:23:02 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Vigilanteman

Rostenkoski was chased by seniors, thrown out of office and his bill was repealed. Stop whining and start fighting. DO not post negative crap stories.


32 posted on 03/22/2010 7:23:11 AM PDT by Frantzie (TV - sending Americans towards Islamic serfdom - Cancel TV service NOW)
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To: b4its2late

Indeed. There seems to be a growing chorus of people who want us to just put our hands in the air and surrender, without so much as a parting retort. Some claim to be conservatives, some are quite obviously not. I’m not sure giving up is the way to go. If the leaders give up, then look out for people taking to the streets. See my tagline. Hard to believe JFK said that.


33 posted on 03/22/2010 7:23:36 AM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: blam

Revolution 2 has begun.


34 posted on 03/22/2010 7:23:47 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!=^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^==^..^=)
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To: blam
If they can implement this it can be repealed. Why is it that people say they could never get this done, and they did? You know the bureaucracy they about about to create will be a total mess and failure. I have had many plans in mind in my life. I had to stop on some because I ran out of money.

They will too. This CANNOT be repealed stuff is BS.

We can see now that anything is possible, even the most repugnant things.

35 posted on 03/22/2010 7:24:43 AM PDT by dforest
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I’m not so sure about that.

We must offer sensible alternatives to the real health care problems while we are taking back congress, and the WH.

We must start telling the Med Mal (tort reform) nightmare stories. The Dems tell them, so can we. I’ve got a boatload of them (I do med mal insurance). Docs who have been forced out because a patient suffered a known risk, was advised of the risk, doc did nothing wrong.

We must propose risk pools to cover the high-risk Americans. There must be a way to do that without pushing our deficit beyond the breaking point.

Offer tax breaks for companies who offer employees insurance.

We must boast that our common sense comprehensive plan won’t cost our children... and have that be true.

We can’t afford the all-encompassing plan the Dems cooked. Fiscal responsibility will resonate in the upcoming elections.


36 posted on 03/22/2010 7:24:58 AM PDT by Reagan69 (The only thing SHOVEL-READY since BO's stimulus has been MICHAEL JACKSON (tammy bruce))
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To: pnh102

Ah, and with folks like you, the white flag manufacturers will have a booming business.


37 posted on 03/22/2010 7:25:10 AM PDT by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

There is NO law that can’t be repealed. And when I say that I have in mind any number of laws and associated bureaucracies that have ossified far more than this one will have in the next two or three years.


38 posted on 03/22/2010 7:26:05 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: blam

Put fear of the people into them by any means necessary or deal with what we have. Anything can be overturned one way or another but is unlikely because nobody will consider all the possibilities.


39 posted on 03/22/2010 7:26:47 AM PDT by Archon of the East (Universal Executive Power of the Law of Nature)
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To: blam

If you cant completely repeal, cant you take it apart one by one?


40 posted on 03/22/2010 7:27:09 AM PDT by GoCards ("We eat therefore we hunt...")
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To: blam

So many are busy, busy, busy putting that air of inevitability into place.

History is made every day as it was last night with this socialist coup. It can and will be repealed.


41 posted on 03/22/2010 7:27:36 AM PDT by Kenny
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To: b4its2late

I agree. I am under the understanding that you can cut the funding for this and therefore stop the implementation of a lot of this. I think there are some things that can be kept, and other things can be severely ammended to the point of non-existance. So, it won’t be “repeal”, it will be more like “re-do”. I think they can get rid of a lot of this garbage by limiting it, or even turning it back with new legistlation. But before anything is done, I think that everyone should be clear on what is in this bill so as to make the case for such a thing being done. It needs to be well documented what this thing actually represents, so that the Dems cannot lie about all the wonderful things (lies) that the republicans are keeping from them.


42 posted on 03/22/2010 7:29:03 AM PDT by marstegreg
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To: b4its2late

Thatcher, in a country far more socialist than this, privatized about 2/3s of the economy. No, it wasn’t the same thing as removing benefits, but there is a way to do this and it must be done.


43 posted on 03/22/2010 7:29:47 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: blam

As a Pessimist (not to meention realist), of course I tend to agree.

But then again, did anyone ver think welfare reform was possible?

How about deregulation of trucking or the airlines?

It ~can~ happen. But it will take a wholesale change in the composition of Washinton.


44 posted on 03/22/2010 7:30:13 AM PDT by Pessimist (u)
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To: blam
Nor will the bill granting amnesty to all illegal aliens, nor the bill taxing both sugar and salt, most of all not the Bill granting Obama as many terms in office as he is voted in. Or whatever new Bills they are able to ram the same way as this one, they might only have 59 votes but they have at least 4 RINOs.
45 posted on 03/22/2010 7:30:26 AM PDT by pennboricua
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To: blam
One Thing That's 100% Guaranteed: The Healthcare Bill Will NEVER Be Repealed

No truer words were ever spoken.

46 posted on 03/22/2010 7:30:31 AM PDT by Dustbunny ("Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. " Ronald Reagan)
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To: blam

The same arguments were made about McCain/Feingold. It’s there in name only. The guts of it have been taken out and done away with. That’s why Obama wants the Congress to consider a new bill because the old one is effectively gone.

What the Democrats have done is create a firestorm. Leading up to this vote, the Democrats have created more conservatives than the Republicans could have ever hoped to. Now that its enacted and people will be directly affected by it. Seniors losing Medicare benefits, lower income people losing their jobs over this, they will create even more conservatives. People are involved like never before. This health care crap has changed the whole political paradigm as we knew it before and the old rules don’t apply. They have attempted to govern against the wishes of the American people. The American people will not stand for it. This will utltimately be gutted.


47 posted on 03/22/2010 7:30:50 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: blam

This is too defeatist. It CAN be repealed by sections and gutted with a GOP Congress and President.


48 posted on 03/22/2010 7:30:57 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: blam

No the states will nullify it or a court will.


49 posted on 03/22/2010 7:31:07 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: SoFloFreeper

We are going to have to come up with a name for the hopeless people....hopelessers?


50 posted on 03/22/2010 7:31:25 AM PDT by Anima Mundi (Utopia means no place.)
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