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Posted on 03/27/2010 7:11:03 AM PDT by jimjohn2458
President Obama is splintering America. The passage of Obamacare was a historic victory for liberal governance. Yet, its true cost may be that it triggers the eventual breakup of the country.
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Good point about the time it took to create a brand new gov’t before. However, recall it took two weeks to complete the Empire State Building drawings (based on an earlier design) and it took only 16 months from start of excavation to ribbon cutting. Today we are still debating designs for the replacement for the WTC destroyed almost 10 years ago. Everything is mired in much and molasses today. Would a new gov’t sweep away all the crud and get us back to the old “can-do” attitude?
The Civil War settled another matter without equivocation. The Federal Government will suspend the Constitution, go to war against and defeat any state that secedes.
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Somehow, they're going to twist it so that Conservatives are the new slaveholders and must be brought under control.
No thanks, not my cup of tea but I appreciate the explanation.
Don't need to explain them in more detail, just need to give them their proper name: "Bill of Government Restrictions".
Emphasize the "Congress shall make no law..." parts.
The federal government barely won the first time, and it is highly unlikely that today it could win a civil war or a war of secession if the sentiment for separation were widespread. In particular, the non-political officers in the army are quite conservative, and so the professional army probably would be split. As for raising an army of conscripts as Lincoln did, who would fight for Obama and his fascists? Gangbangers? Gangbangers are just targets - easy kills.
But, I don’t think that the odds are strong that any state will secede or that there will be civil war. People are too complacent. Obama is betting, and not without reason, that people will just get used to the new state of affairs and continue relishing television sports and our handouts.
Canada doesn’t need those leftovers, thanks.
He sure did.
Increasingly, we no longer just disagree but we despise each other.
I think it is interesting that the alleged capitalist financiers in Manhattan were the ones who plunged us headlong into socialism in 2008. But their form of socialism is a socialism for the elites, and their leaders come from both parties, the Romney’s, the McCain’s, the Obama’s, etc. These tare the Manhattan elites who look down with disdain on everyone else and believe that it is their divine right to take wealth from truly productive people at the point of a gun, purely for their own enrichment. They claimed that we had to given them our hard earned money in order to subsidize their losses, and if we did not, they would stop lending and send our economy into a talespin. This was extortion, pure and simple. Mark my words: They will be the first with their backs against the wall when the revolution comes.
To be honest, as pure evil as Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin were, they were shining examples of morality compared to the Manhattan socialists.
I’m all for killing the horse, too.
One problem is the change in demographics. Look at North Carolina, they have gone from conservative to essentially purple due mainly to an influx of people from liberal areas.
Virginia and Florida are in the same boat. Even if you have a majority who would favor some sort of push back, it wouldn’t be a huge majority.
In Mississippi, Alabama, South Carolina (and to some extent Georgia) the split is roughly 60-40 toward the conservative side, but roughly half of the 40 in those states are minority/african american. Virtually 100% of that group would be against 10th amendment confrontations, thus creating the opening for the media to frame any fight as a refight of the civil war. This, of course, is horse****, but when has that stopped the MSM?
The road back, IMO, is for conservatives to take back the GOP, gain control of the congress and this time ram through judicial appointments who will side with the 10th amendment. Easier said than done, but any strategy proposed is a long, LONG trudge through the mud.
Taking back state government along with the judiciary is the fastest way back IMO. At some point half the Federal Government should/could be struck down as unconstitutional.
One thing conservatives did was allow the liberals to take over education, and infiltrate the government at all levels grassroots up. The liberals are truly like cockroaches in their ability to create an infestation.
Waiting around for the GOP to “repeal” anything is folly. This has to be fought in the judiciary, with continual assertion of the 10th amendment and conservatives willing to enter the local grassroots levels of government....and by the way...not get corrupted on the way up...
The difference this time is that the military establishment is overwhelmingly on our side. I suspect that if there ever is a demise of our union, it will come in the form of a military coup, right after the limp-wristed Kucinich kissers sign articles of surrender to the Jihadists.
If there is another civil war, the MSM is the least of our worries. Chrissy Matthews and Keith Olbermann wouldn't survive the first month. Not because they'd be shot, but because the power outages would mean they would lose access to Starbucks, bottled water, and gay bathhouses, causing them to commit suicide.
Yes..and the Ayres crowd would be happy with reeducation camps and political genocide. For this reason, I hope I’m wrong.
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