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To: B-Chan; GiovannaNicoletta

“Dispensationalism and the rapture doctrine are: made-up baloney.”

Arguing about who has the truth, who are the heretics, etc is counterproductive to sharing Jesus. I know many who are full of ‘made-up baloney’ from all of the man-made ‘Christian’ religious systems. They are all man-made, and mostly exist today to control people.

Jesus did not come to start a religion. It is important to remember that his twelve chosen deciples, and virtually all of his other followers, those he taught/preached to, were Jews or Israelites. Even the woman at the well was an Israelite, though not of the tribe of Judah.

He challenged only the religious leaders (Pharisees etc). I believe they knew he was what he said he was, and they sought to kill him.

The Word of God was not given to us by the Roman Catholic Church, it was preserved and given to us by God, by His Holy Spirit. This was done for all of the Old Covenant Scriptures through the Jews. The New Covenant Scriptures were also preserved and given to us by that same God. The early church fathers did not know there was such a thing as a Roman Catholic Church - all in the first couple of centuries were just ‘Christians’.

I have seen first had the marvelous brotherhood between Christians who gather independent of what church connection they might claim. I saw it in Ireland, in Northern Ireland, during some of the troubles there. As many as 200 or so of us prayed/worshipped together every Monday evening in Rostrevor. Catholics and those who were not Catholic. It included priests and nuns, along with clergy from Church of Ireland, Presbyterian, Baptist. We were there as brothers and sisters in Christ, and no one was Protesting anything. If we could do that in Ireland in the late 70’s, why not now here on this forum?

Does it really matter that we will or won’t be ‘raptured’? Does it really matter that we know about ‘dispensationalism’ and ‘rapture’ because Darby taught it and Scofield made it popular through his ‘Notes’?

Darby’s teaching and Scofield’s Notes do not make these things so. Papal bull does not make a thing so. We err when we rely on what men say or teach.

Years ago, my father’s boss introduced him to his minister. My father made a comment about scripture and the minister took exception, saying ‘Do you know who I am? I am the man, when ministers in this town have a question about the Bible, whom they come to for answers.’ My father said, ‘Do you know who I am? I am the man, when I have a question about what the Bible says, asks the Holy Spirit, and he tells me.’

One final thought - God is in control. Not man, not any man, not any church - God is in control.


349 posted on 04/03/2010 3:09:59 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea
Does it really matter that we will or won’t be ‘raptured’?

Jesus thought it important enough to include it in His word, and thought end time prophecy was important enough that He dedicated much of His Bible to that subject.

Warnings about the events which will happen before Christ returns has the desired effect of bringing many people to salvation. Bible prophecy also proves beyond doubt that God is in control and knows the future. So, much prophecy is included in His Word to show that He wants us to understand the things to come. Most of the events prophesied in Scripture have already come to pass, such as Israel becoming a nation again.

So yes, the Scripture which tells us that there is an event, commonly known as the Rapture, which will happen before the seven-year judgment of God on this earth, is extremely important. That's why God put it in the Bible.

350 posted on 04/03/2010 3:17:53 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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352 posted on 04/03/2010 3:25:47 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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