Breaking: Militia group (Hutaree) charged with "seditious conspiracy" by FBI

Fox News ^ | Mar 29, 2010 9:25 am | Foxnews (Live broadcast)

[BP2]

No link yet, only from live broadcast:

In a press release just handed to Fox by the FBI, the six Michigan residents, two from Ohio, one from Indiana are charged with “seditious conspiracy.”

Reportedly, Hutaree is accused of attempted use of weapons of mass destruction. Charges range from August 2008 to today.

The militia group Hutaree are said to have conspired to oppose by force the authority of the US Government.

The members viewed local, state and federal law enforcement as "the brotherhood," also known as their enemy, and have been preparing, the FBI says, to engage them in armed conflict.

According to one plan released by the FBI, the group was to kill a law enforcement officer, then during the funeral precession, hit again with IEDs to kill more LEOs.

[little jeremiah]

Could you give examples of “militant Christians, Jewish”? We all can find gazillion examples of militant Muslims.

I just don’t know of any Christian or Jewish groups that going around whacking people. (Other than Northern Ireland but that’s a whole nother thing.)

I still don’t know what you mean about not liking gun power and religion together. How in your mind do you see stopping gun power+religion? Who would figure out which religion or religious people shouldn’t have guns?

[little jeremiah]

The MSM and Dems totally ignore all violence and threats from their own team.

It’s insane right now. The monkeys are running the zoo.

[caww]

Thanks for this post Candor....

I went on “abovetopsecret.com” site that shows this group and other militia groups, as well followed the comments from when this first started going down..these were very interesting as it seemed some were militia people corresponding.

Sunday and today I read various news reports and I goota tell you something just isn’t right about how this is being reported. Not only that but I have great difficulty that they would come out with such force for just these guys arrested.

There are muslims on our streets threatening in demonstrations to take down our government and replace it with Islamic law...so what gives there? How come not going after them?

Furthermore early on the report was that this was nothing to do with attempting to go after policemen or a policemans funneral...rather this Christian militia was going after the Islamic militia and they turned them in.

Our Gov. would never report that it was Christian vs. Muslim...ever! So the whole thing seems more than fishy to me...and they just are not telling it like it really is.

[little jeremiah]

Are there Muslim groups that call themselves militias? Or do you mean the Islamic training camp things?

[reasonisfaith]

Exactly what I was thinking when this came over the radio today.

[Guyin4Os]

If you believe in Him, he (the anti-christ) is powerless against you.

Agreed, but that misses the point. The government should not be arresting people who happen to have nutty ideas, unless they actually break the law. And it doesn't appear here that these nuts broke the law... that is, the govt has produced no evidence of it.

[caww]

Thi is the link I spent quite awhile on viewing videos and especially the comments as this thing went down on Sat.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread556139/pg1

[Cboldt]

-- So IEDs are WMDs under Obama, but not when under Bush when found in Iraq. --

18 USC 2332a (IED = WMD under US criminal code) dates back to 1994. What we have here is the usual situation of one term having variable meanings, depending on context.

[Candor7]

as abhorrent as the content of Hutaree.com appears to me. . until they cross the line and attempt to use firepower to force or terrorize others to succumb to their world view. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

You are a troll, one who pretends to disseminate a modicum of fairness in relation to taking a group of " media defined" extremists and painting conservatives in general with a false issue.

You seem rather opinionated for someone who just joined FR on 3.27.10. I think you are a fake. You are no conservative. Who do you work for? One of Holders boys who pop show up here and pretend that they can demoralize conservatives on issues like this.

You cover for a surreptitious Junta who is more terrorist than this little,militia group ever dreamed of being, ramming social control down the throats of Americans, a law whose operant sections are so draconian that the president has to lie and then castigate those who expose the truth IN SPITE of people like you and the Obama owned media.

We know your kind, And we know what to do about you. We know how you think, and we know the funny little games of ideological half truths you like to play. We are coming for all of you. We will use the ballot box and rid ourselves of you and all the others who pretend to be patriots of America but are nothing more than dedicated leftist operatives who wish to destroy our constitution and govern our nation through political correctness, what Jonah Goldberg calls the "politics of meaning," dictates, executive fiat, decisions made behiond closed doors , misues of legislative process justified by the politics of meaning. Thats what you support.You are an enemy.

So far all you talk about is political correctness,we are a nation of laws. The suspects on the Michigan militia group are innocent until proven guilty, despite the degree to which they offend political correctness. Surely we can make that observation when Eric Holder has defended terrorists as a private attorney, terrorists who had killed American soldiers, hidden his legal briefs to avoid discovery from congressional inquiry, and now has promoted Mirandizing terrorists on the battlefield. Yes I would say that Holder himself a terrorist, would with great reluctance have to shelve his own political correctness on this militia.

I would stand with the militia people any day and Holder can rot in unamerican infamy. You can join him.That's who you work for. Eric Holder has "crossed the line" as you put it by promoting the terrorizing of Americans, which he did when he announced publicly that whhite Americans were racists, and refused to prosecute black panthers for interfering with the polls,and giving enemy combatant terrorists the rights of citizens before the law. That's real terrorism far more egregious than anything these militia folks in Michigan actually did.From what I see so far they are guilty of far less than Holder himself is.

That makes Holder the enemy of the American people. We know who he is. Next time you report to his infrastructure, tell him very clearly we have his number, and we will do everything we can to make sure that he no longer holds his appointment after this coming November.Count on it.We are coming for you and yours. And there is NOTHING you can do to stop us. We will not succumb to your world view.

[Candor7]

This is very interesting , thanks for the link
to abovetopsecret.com

[caww]

Dawud Walid, head of the Michigan branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, said he was told that the Christian militia group may have been plotting against American Muslims.

“We salute the FBI for breaking up a militia that was seeking to harm American Muslims,” Walid said.

(This was a quote from the comment section on that link, apparently Cair had evenstated this was a militia after muslims?)

[caww]

Thought you might appreciate it. There is more than one thread on this thing going down.....the one I was on sat. had more than nine pages.

[Vigilantcitizen]

That makes Holder the enemy of the American people. We know who he is. Next time you report to his infrastructure, tell him very clearly we have his number, and we will do everything we can to make sure that he no longer holds his appointment after this coming November.Count on it.We are coming for you and yours. And there is NOTHING you can do to stop us. We will not succumb to your world view.

Bears repeating.

And btw...whoever hired y'all overpaid horribly. I could've got better trolls for free from my local middle school.

[caww]

See post 531#

[jetson]

The only seditious conspiracy I’ve seen cookin is from BOzo and the boys ( and girls).

[Candor7]

I watched it closely.CAIR is in themiddle of this. There were Muslins in the larger Micchigan Militia organizatio who worled to get the FBI to investigate the Hutaree militia. They did this because the Huterees were Christians who defined Muslims as the enemy, which the koran does of ALL infidels.Thats hardly a crime.

My guess is that the FBI wanted a shoot out and they never got it.

[spectre]

"Whose forum are you referring to? I saw nothing remotely of that sort on this militia groups site."

Really?

Go to the Hutaree Web Site and go into Forum. Click into "General Discussion." You'll get your fill of what I was talking about. I'm assuming they were hacked since most of the talk and photos were hard core gay porn and other such vile filth.

And I'm done discussing it.

[Grunthor]

“Seems to me that a militia group with a website earns a Darwin award.”

Hard to argue that one.

[pgkdan]

Sounds more like an armed cult to me. But then again militia has a much more ‘right wing’ ring to it. Fits the new line that the right is violent and dangerous.

[caww]

photos of those arrested....

http://www.freep.com/article/20100329/NEWS05/100329007/1007/Alleged-militia-members-indicted-for-plotting-attack