The McCain Mutiny: A maverick fights for his political life—and his soul

Newsweek ^ | 2010-04-03 | David Margolick

[rabscuttle385]

Late last month, at a dusty fairground outside Tucson, John McCain stood behind the person who is, at least for the next few years, surely his most important legacy to American politics. And speaking to the adoring mob, Sarah Palin stood behind John McCain, repaying his inestimable gift to her in the most compelling possible fashion: by helping him to survive.

(snip)

Many, many years ago she'd competed in a beauty pageant, Palin declared, as women howled (and a few men growled) approvingly. McCain would surely win the talent and debate portions of any such contest, she went on, but no way would the Washington elite and "pundints" and "lame-stream media" ever crown him "Miss Congeniality"! "He's never been a company man, he's never been one to just 'go with the flow,'?" she crowed.

(snip)

...Palin had apparently missed the real message this electoral season in Arizona: for his three decades in Congress, McCain hadn't gone with the flow enough, at least not enough to satisfy many Arizona Republicans. Why else would his rival, former congressman J.D. Hayworth, be billing himself as "the consistent conservative"? Many of the GOP's most faithful, the kind who vote in primaries despite 115-degree heat, tired long ago of McCain the Maverick, the man who had crossed the aisle to work with Democrats on issues like immigration reform, global warming, and restricting campaign contributions. "Maverick" is a mantle McCain no longer claims; in fact, he now denies he ever was one. "I never considered myself a maverick," he told me. "I consider myself a person who serves the people of Arizona to the best of his abilities." Yet here was Palin, urging her fans four times in 15 minutes to send McCain the Maverick back to Washington.

[Mountain Mary]

I sent money to JD as well. And I worked for John McCain’s campaign. Done with RINOs...

[Forty-Niner]

Sarah Palin does not support Amnesty......

Quit repeating that misinformation. It makes you look silly....

[Man50D]

You can always whine and moan to the FR powers to be by clicking on the report abuse button to ban me since you don’t like me pointing out the harsh reality Palin chooses a socialist over the conservative candidate.

[SoCalPol]

You call a person with an ACU life time Conservative rating of 82% a socialist when

You support a person who supports and is supported by anti war, truthers.

Ron Paul who states Iran and North Korea are not a threat

Who would not vote to condemn Ahmadinejad.

Who calles America “Imperial America who are occupiers.

I have heard many time from the Code Pinkos the same talking points.

[FreeReign]

You support a person who supports and is supported by anti war, truthers.

Man50D supports ron Paul?? I didn't know that.

LOL!

[HiTech RedNeck]

The flip side of the association is that Sarah Palin now has access to John McCain’s ear.

[ansel12]

LOL, it isn't a case of hitting abuse, it is a case of mocking your trolling here, with your attacking the Palin supporters as "Sarahbots"

Sarah Palin IS this Tea Partier's cup of Tea!! 12/02/2009 | Jim Robinson

Being as how I'm a God, Country, Family, small government, traditional American values, Life & Liberty patriotic kind of guy, Sarah Palin IS my cup of tea. My cup runneth over!

I pray she runs.

Posted on Wednesday, December 02, 2009 12:02:15 PM by Jim Robinson

[Balding_Eagle]

BTTT For future reference.

[Breto]

Sarah Palin does support a “path to citizenship” which is just another form of amnesty. Her interview with Univision was unambiguous on the mater. Confusing the facts or ignoring them is kinda a liberal thing to do dontcha think.

[Man50D]

You call a person with an ACU life time Conservative rating of 82% a socialist when

Think again about that rating:

To quote a January 29, 2008 article at American Thinker regardng McManesty's ACU rating:

"Senator John McCain's lifetime rating of 82.3% from the American Conservative Union is often cited as proof that he is conservative. Here is a closer look at that 82.3 rating. First, a rating of 82.3 is not really that high. It puts Senator McCain in 39th place among senators serving in 2006, the latest year for which the ACU has its ratings posted online. For that most recent year in particular, McCain scored only 65, putting him in 47th place for that year. Ben Nelson (D-NE) and Chuck Hagel (R-NE), for example, scored 64 and 75, respectively, in 2006."

Another passage in the article:

"So where did McCain differ from the ACU? The big areas were taxes, campaign finance reform, the environment and, most recently, immigration. There was also a smattering of support for trial lawyers; federal intervention in health, education, safety or voting issues; internationalism; and some social issues."

The article doesn't even factor in his close political association with fellow flaming socialist Joe LIEberman, whose rating at the time was only 16%!

You support a person who supports and is supported by anti war, truthers.

Then it should be easy enough for you to do a search by my username and pull up a quote in support of Paul in the nearly five years I've been on FR to confirm your otherwise baseless accusations.


You still haven't addressed all the issues McAmnesty agrees with the socialists on in post #105 but the n again that's consistent with the Alinsky tactic.

[SoConPubbie]

Well let's review his record. He agrees with the socialists on amensty for illegals, abortion, campaign finance reform, opposing repeal of Roe vs Wade, opposing drilling in ANWR, global warming. He also advocated closing GITMO when he was running for President, founded the Reform Institute funded by George Soros. McAmnesty joined in 2007 to file an amicus brief against the Wisconsin Right to Life organization brief thereby helping helping pro-abort Russ Feingold, the Law Of The Sea Treaty(L.O.S.T) that would have ceded at least some of our national sovereignty to the one world order UN. He also admonished the North Carolina RNC for running an ad against BO/BS. Most recently sponsored a bill that would have banned over the counter dietary supplements being sold only to withdraw the bill after receiving harsh criticism. Other than those issues, you're right, he's just a conservative at heart.

Yes, why don't we review his record and put your LIES to rest:

So here are the some of the votes, you left out, of the man you would call a socialist from OnTheIssues.com:

Pro-Life Issues

• Supports repealing Roe v. Wade. (May 2007)
• Voted YES on restricting UN funding for population control policies. (Mar 2009)
• Voted YES on defining unborn child as eligible for SCHIP. (Mar 2008)
• Voted YES on barring HHS grants to organizations that perform abortions. (Oct 2007)
• Voted YES on expanding research to more embryonic stem cell lines. (Apr 2007)
• Voted YES on notifying parents of minors who get out-of-state abortions. (Jul 2006)
• Voted NO on $100M to reduce teen pregnancy by education & contraceptives. (Mar 2005)
• Voted YES on criminal penalty for harming unborn fetus during other crime. (Mar 2004)
• Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions except for maternal life. (Mar 2003)
• Voted YES on maintaining ban on Military Base Abortions. (Jun 2000)
• Voted YES on banning partial birth abortions. (Oct 1999)
• Voted YES on banning human cloning. (Feb 1998)
• Rated 0% by NARAL, indicating a pro-life voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Expand embryonic stem cell research. (Jun 2004)
• Rated 75% by the NRLC, indicating a mixed record on abortion. (Dec 2006)
• Prohibit transporting minors across state lines for abortion. (Jan 2008)

Budget and Economy Issues

• Veto all pork-barrel bills and announce pork spenders. (May 2007)
• Voted NO on $192B additional anti-recession stimulus spending. (Jul 2009)
• Voted YES on modifying bankruptcy rules to avoid mortgage foreclosures. (May 2009)
• Voted NO on additional $825 billion for economic recovery package. (Feb 2009)
• Voted YES on $40B in reduced federal overall spending. (Dec 2005)
• Voted NO on prioritizing national debt reduction below tax cuts. (Apr 2000)
• Voted YES on Balanced-budget constitutional amendment. (Mar 1997)
• Maintain & enforce existing spending caps in the future. (Sep 1998)

Civil Rights

• Voted NO on adding sexual orientation to definition of hate crimes. (Jun 2002) Voted NO on ending special funding for minority & women-owned business. (Oct 1997)
• Voted YES on prohibiting same-sex marriage. (Sep 1996)
• Voted NO on prohibiting job discrimination by sexual orientation. (Sep 1996)
• Voted YES on Amendment to prohibit flag burning. (Dec 1995)
• Voted YES on banning affirmative action hiring with federal funds. (Jul 1995)
• Supports anti-flag desecration amendment. (Mar 2001)
• Limit interstate class-action lawsuits to federal courts . (May 2002)
• Rated 0% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record. (Dec 2002)
• Rated 7% by the NAACP, indicating an anti-affirmative-action stance. (Dec 2006)

Corporations

• Cut taxes for small business so they can thrive. (Oct 2008)
• Need stricter interpretation and consolidation of regulators. (Sep 2008)
• Government should be on businesses’ side, not in their way. (Jun 2008)
• More deductible expensing of equipment investments. (Feb 2008)
• Cut corporate income taxes to keep jobs here. (Jan 2008)
• People worry about corporations unduly influencing elections. (Sep 2007)

Crime

• Judges have limited scope under the Constitution. (Nov 2006)
• More death penalty; stricter sentencing. (Jan 2000)
• Prosecute youths as adults, but separately; explore sources. (Jan 2000)
• Pro-death penalty; more prisons; increased penalties. (Jul 1998)
• Voted YES on limiting death penalty appeals. (Apr 1996)
• Voted YES on limiting product liability punitive damage awards. (Mar 1996)
• Voted YES on repealing federal speed limits. (Jun 1995)
• Voted YES on rejecting racial statistics in death penalty appeals. (May 1994)
• Rated 29% by CURE, indicating anti-rehabilitation crime votes. (Dec 2000)
• Establish an FBI registry of sexual offendors. (Oct 1996)

Education

• Unrestricted block grants--let states decide spending. (Feb 2000)
• Voted NO on $52M for "21st century community learning centers". (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on $5B for grants to local educational agencies. (Oct 2005)
• Voted NO on shifting $11B from corporate tax loopholes to education. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on funding smaller classes instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
• Voted NO on funding student testing instead of private tutors. (May 2001)
• Voted NO on spending $448B of tax cut on education & debt reduction. (Apr 2001)
• Voted YES on declaring memorial prayers and religious symbols OK at schools. (May 1999)
• Voted YES on allowing more flexibility in federal school rules. (Mar 1999)
• Voted YES on education savings accounts. (Jun 1998)
• Voted YES on school vouchers in DC. (Sep 1997)
• Voted YES on $75M for abstinence education. (Jul 1996)
• Voted YES on requiring schools to allow voluntary prayer. (Jul 1994)
• Voted NO on national education standards. (Feb 1994)
• Require state standards, regular assessments, and sanctions. (Jul 2001)
• Support Ed-Flex: more flexibility if more accountable. (Jul 2001)

Foreign Policy

• Voted YES on cooperating with India as a nuclear power. (Oct 2008)
• Voted YES on cap foreign aid at only $12.7 billion. (Oct 1999)
• Voted YES on limiting the President's power to impose economic sanctions. (Jul 1998)
• Voted NO on limiting NATO expansion to only Poland, Hungary & Czech. (Apr 1998)
• Voted YES on Strengthening of the trade embargo against Cuba. (Mar 1996)
• Libyan disarmament was a CIA success story. (Mar 2005)
• Impose sanctions and an import ban on Burma. (Oct 2007)
• Urge Venezuela to re-open dissident radio & TV stations. (May 2007)
• Call for Burma's junta to release political prisoners. (Jun 2007)
• Let Ukraine & Georgia enter NATO. (Jan 2008)
• Sponsored bill supporting demonstrations against Iran. (Jun 2009)

Government Reform

• Voted NO on Congressional pay raise. (Jul 2009)
• Voted NO on providing a US House seat for the District of Columbia. (Feb 2009)
• Voted NO on granting the District of Columbia a seat in Congress. (Sep 2007)
• Voted YES on requiring photo ID to vote in federal elections. (Jul 2007)
• Voted YES on establishing the Senate Office of Public Integrity. (Mar 2006)
• Voted YES on require photo ID (not just signature) for voter registration. (Feb 2002)
• Voted NO on funding for National Endowment for the Arts. (Aug 1999)
• Voted YES on Approving the presidential line-item veto. (Mar 1996)
• Sponsored bill disclosing lobbyist info & gifts on Internet. (Dec 2005)
• Sponsored bill allowing individual votes on each earmark. (Feb 2006)
• Ban paid voter registration. (May 2009)
• Require all laws to cite Constitutional authorization. (Jun 2009)
• Reduce federal government size & scope, including military. (Sep 1998)

Guns

• Prosecute criminals, not citizens for gun ownership. (Sep 2007)
• Don’t hold gun manufacturers liable for crimes. (Sep 2007)
• Opposes restrictions on assault weapons and ammunition types. (Sep 2007)
• Voted against Brady Bill & assault weapon ban. (Aug 1999)
• Punish criminals who abuse 2nd Amendment rights. (May 1999)
• Repeal existing gun restrictions; penalize criminal use. (Jul 1998)
• Voted YES on allowing firearms in checked baggage on Amtrak trains. (Apr 2009)
• Voted YES on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers. (Jul 2005)
• Voted YES on banning lawsuits against gun manufacturers for gun violence. (Mar 2004)
• Voted NO on background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
• Voted YES on loosening license & background checks at gun shows. (May 1999)
• Voted YES on maintaining current law: guns sold without trigger locks. (Jul 1998)
• Ban gun registration & trigger lock law in Washington DC. (Mar 2007)
• Allow firearms in National Parks. (Feb 2008)

Health Care

• Allow appealing HMO decisions externally & in court. (Jul 1999)
• Voted NO on expanding the Children's Health Insurance Program. (Jan 2009)
• Voted NO on expanding enrollment period for Medicare Part D. (Feb 2006)
• Voted YES on increasing Medicaid rebate for producing generics. (Nov 2005)
• Voted YES on negotiating bulk purchases for Medicare prescription drug. (Mar 2005)
• Voted NO on $40 billion per year for limited Medicare prescription drug benefit. (Jun 2003)
• Voted YES on allowing reimportation of Rx drugs from Canada. (Jul 2002)
• Voted YES on allowing patients to sue HMOs & collect punitive damages. (Jun 2001)
• Voted NO on including prescription drugs under Medicare. (Jun 2000)
• Voted YES on limiting self-employment health deduction. (Jul 1999)
• Voted NO on blocking medical savings acounts. (Apr 1996)
• Tax credits for those without employee health insurance. (May 2002)
• Tax deduction for long-term care insurance. (May 2002)
• Rated 25% by APHA, indicating a anti-public health voting record. (Dec 2003)

Health Care

• Keep “Don’t ask, don’t tell” policy - it works. (Jan 2000)
• Voted NO on preserving habeas corpus for Guantanamo detainees. (Sep 2006)
• Voted NO on requiring CIA reports on detainees & interrogation methods. (Sep 2006)
• Voted NO on adopting the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty. (Oct 1999)
• Voted YES on deploying National Missile Defense ASAP. (Mar 1999)
• Voted YES on military pay raise of 4.8%. (Feb 1999)
• Voted NO on prohibiting same-sex basic training. (Jun 1998)
• Voted YES on considering deploying NMD, and amending ABM Treaty. (Jun 1996)
• Rated 0% by SANE, indicating a pro-military voting record. (Dec 2003)
• Sponsored bill giving higher priority to rail security. (Jul 2005)
• Innovate intelligence-gathering for future hard targets. (Mar 2005)
• CIA needs more focus on counterterrorism. (Mar 2005)
• So-called Legal Issues are myths; not real CIA hindrances. (Mar 2005)
• Sponsored bill for Iraq budget to be part of defense budget. (Jun 2006)
• Improve educational assistance for veterans. (Apr 2008)

Jobs

• Cut business taxes so companies will keep jobs in US. (Sep 2008)
• Voted against minimum wage 19 times, when in pork bills. (Aug 2008)
• Raising taxes eliminates jobs. (Jul 2008)
• Produce jobs by producing America’s own energy. (Jul 2008)
• Overhaul unemployment insurance as a retraining program. (Feb 2008)
• Unions are monopolies; don’t compel people to join. (Oct 2007)
• Family farms: Crop insurance; reduce inheritance tax. (Jan 2000)
• Ethanol is not worth it, even in Iowa. (Dec 1999)
• Ethanol bad for environment & bad for consumers. (Nov 1999)
• End sugar subsidy; it hurts consumers & helps only tycoons. (Aug 1999)
• Voted NO on restricting employer interference in union organizing. (Jun 2007)
• Voted YES on repealing Clinton's ergonomic rules on repetitive stress. (Mar 2001)
• Voted YES on allowing workers to choose between overtime & comp-time. (May 1997)
• Voted YES on replacing farm price supports. (Feb 1996)
• Rated 15% by the AFL-CIO, indicating an anti-union voting record. (Dec 2003)

Social Security

• Future retirees cannot get what current ones get. (Oct 2008)
• Looming challenges of entitlements need personal accounts. (Feb 2008)
• We need personal savings accounts. (Oct 2007)
• Save benefits by bipartisan agreement; but without new tax. (Apr 2007)
• Trust Fund is a ticking time bomb, set to go off in 2014. (Jan 2000)
• More believe in Elvis than in getting Social Security check. (Jan 2000)
• Option to invest 20% of payroll taxes in private accounts. (Jan 2000)
• Disallow using Trust Fund for “emergency” spending. (Jun 1999)
• Allow workers to invest privately. (Jun 1999)
• Earnings test penalizes productivity in retirees. (Jun 1999)
• Eliminate the “earnings test” which taxes benefits. (May 1999)
• Lock up Trust Fund; devote 62% of budget surplus to it. (May 1999)
• Put surplus into Trust Fund; fulfill promised benefits. (Jul 1998)
• Voted YES on Social Security Lockbox & limiting national debt. (Apr 1999)
• Voted YES on allowing Roth IRAs for retirees. (May 1998)
• Voted YES on allowing personal retirement accounts. (Apr 1998)
• Voted YES on deducting Social Security payments on income taxes. (May 1996)
• Supports individual savings accounts and work incentives. (Sep 1998)

Tax Reform

• Voted YES on allowing AMT reduction without budget offset. (Mar 2008)
• Voted YES on raising the Death Tax exemption to $5M from $1M. (Feb 2008)
• Voted YES on repealing the Alternative Minimum Tax. (Mar 2007)
• Voted YES on raising estate tax exemption to $5 million. (Mar 2007)
• Voted YES on supporting permanence of estate tax cuts. (Aug 2006)
• Voted YES on permanently repealing the `death tax`. (Jun 2006)
• Voted NO on $47B for military by repealing capital gains tax cut. (Feb 2006)
• Voted YES on retaining reduced taxes on capital gains & dividends. (Feb 2006)
• Voted YES on extending the tax cuts on capital gains and dividends. (Nov 2005)
• Voted YES on reducing marriage penalty instead of cutting top tax rates. (May 2001)
• Voted YES on eliminating the 'marriage penalty'. (Jul 2000)
• Voted YES on phasing out the estate tax ("death tax"). (Jul 2000)
• Voted YES on requiring super-majority for raising taxes. (Apr 1998)

Technology

• Ban Internet taxes & new cell phone taxes. (Feb 2008)
• Internet tax ban saved consumers $600M this Xmas. (Jan 2000)
• Make Internet tax moratorium permanent. (Dec 1999)
• Get more government documents on-line. (Aug 1999)
• No government control over computer encryption. (Apr 1999)
• Voted NO on restoring $550M in funding for Amtrak for 2007. (Mar 2006)
• Voted YES on Internet sales tax moratorium. (Oct 1998)
• Permanent ban on state & local taxation of Internet access. (Oct 2007)
• Website for competitive federal awards. (Jun 2008)

Welform and Poverty

• Require 40 hours work per week from welfare recipients. (Nov 2004)
• Supports block grants, welfare-to-work, state control. (Jan 2000)
• Use tax code to address unemployment & working conditions. (Jul 1998)
• Pro-block grants; pro-welfare-to-work. (Jul 1998)
• Voted YES on welfare block grants. (Aug 1996)
• Voted YES on welfare overhaul. (Sep 1995)

[rintense]

Give it up? Like you? You are not living in reality, son, especially not a political one.

You do know that JD Hayworth endorsed McCain for President, right? So, by your own definition, he too, is culpable for supporting a flaming socialist.

Oh, but I forget, when challenged on giving names of anyone you'd support for President, you stated no one has declared so you won't be pro/con anyone. Yet, you've already dismissed Palin.

Typical.

Go back to your 'flaming socialist' tattoo. And while you're at it, make room for all the other candidates who have endorsed RINOs- including your flaming socialist, McCain:

Hunter endorsed Huckabee
Tancredo endorsed Romney
DeMint endorsed Romney
Pawlenty endorsed McCain
Thompson endorsed McCain
Newt endorsed Scozzafava
Santorum endorsed Specter
Rubio endorsed Huckabee
Santorum endorsed Romney
Scott Brown endorsed Rommey
Ann Coulter endorsed Romney
Mark Levin endorsed Romney
Dick Cheney endorsed McCain
Thune endorsed McCain
Jindahl endorsed McCain
Huckabee endorsed McCain
Bachmann endorsed McCain/Palin
Ron Paul endorsed Chuck Baldwin
Ron Paul endorsed ralph Nader and Cynthia McKinney
Ron Paul endorsed Bob Barr
Paul Ryan endorsed McCain for President
Rick Perry (Governor-Texas) endorsed Rudy Guiliani
Peter King endorsed Guliani
GWB endorsed Spector
Santorum endorsed Spector
DeMint endorsed Graham
JD Haworth endorsed McCain
John Thune endorsed McCain
Sheriff Joe Arpaio endorsed Romney
Coburn endorsed McCain

[Man50D]

Man50D supports ron Paul?? I didn't know that.

LOL!

Why am I always the last to know?

[SoCalPol]

and his posting history is Palin - McCain, psychotic to say the least.

Also can’t confront the truth so he calls me an uneducated Jew. Am still laughing at that one.

[Lakeshark]

Why am I always the last to know?

It seems to be a major part of your problem........

Just saying.

[SoConPubbie]

You can always whine and moan to the FR powers to be by clicking on the report abuse button to ban me since you don’t like me pointing out the harsh reality Palin chooses a socialist over the conservative candidate.

Given your continued use of Extreme Hyperbole, False Labeling, and Lying, it would seem that would be a action you would run to given the patter of your behavior.

[Borax Queen]

I don’t understand why this thread got sabotaged into Ron Paul-bashing; it’s supposed to be about McLettuce, McCommie, you know, the reason we have a full-fledged Marxist in the White House.

And those of you who don’t live in Arizona and support McCain, have no clue the impact of the invasion we’ve been experiencing. Many, many murders, including the latest one, rest on his head for his support of the criminal invasion. And Ms. Clueless supports amnesty as well, deny all you want what she told the Mexican station.

[rintense]

I'm not the one who's spewing the invective to divert attention away from Palin kissing up to a flaming socialist.

Oh? Funny coming from someone who refuses to acknowledge the list of people who have also endorsed McCain.

Again:

Where is your flaming socialist label for those on the list who have supported McCain, let alone other RINOs?

You Saul Alinsky protege's are so predictable.

Hilarious. Who's the one tossing around the 'flaming socialist' name.

BTW, before anyone mentions Michele Bachmann, she stated in 2008 that the 'difference between McCain and Obama couldn't be more stark'. Now tell me, Obama is a flaming socialist, and you believe McCain is one as well, then doesn't that make Bachmann guilty by association? Hayworth? Ryan? Pawlenty?

You cry and cry and cry about Palin supporting McCain, yet, you don't have the guts to even throw out one name- not a single one- as an alternative.

You are a coward. And a pretty dense one at that.

[SoConPubbie]

And those of you who don’t live in Arizona and support McCain, have no clue the impact of the invasion we’ve been experiencing. Many, many murders, including the latest one, rest on his head for his support of the criminal invasion. And Ms. Clueless supports amnesty as well, deny all you want what she told the Mexican station.

Do us all a favor, and point out where any of us are supporting John McCain's re-election efforts!

[SoCalPol]

Palin expands her position on Illegal Immigration

Palin: we need to close the borders. They are called illegal aliens for a reason and if they are not going to follow the rules they should not be in our country.

It’s pretty simple I ratched that one down to the simple answer because its an easier answer than some politicians want it to make it be. you close the borders. You get more agressive about cracking down on the illegal aliens and we take it serious what our border patrol officers are trying to do

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December 2009

Lars Larson radio talk show

LARS: The amnesty proposal that was defeated in Congress — in your view, was that amnesty for illegals and would you back amnesty for a path to citizenship, as the current president calls it?

SARAH PALIN: No, I’m not for amnesty. Let’s ratchet this down quite simply to remember what we’re referring to. Illegal aliens are called “illegal” for a reason.

We need to secure our borders and I am not for amnesty. And there are humane ways to deal with the 11-13 million illegal aliens who are in our country right now, but if they’re not going to follow the rules, they need to get out.