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I am reminded of why I believe that the next libertarian who impresses me with intellect and flawless reasoning will be the first. You provided me with someone's impressive pro-life credentials, then set about making it impossible to believe that they are yours. You claim that you have done all these things in support of a cause you can't possibly feel that strongly about. You insert the God and the Bible into the conversation in order to directly quote prominent prominent abortion opponents. The idea that "the Bible doesn't support conception" is just plain dopey. We're not talking about Islam here. Very little of the Bible is the actual Word of God. The people who wrote the Bible had no concept of conception. Microscopes hadn't been invented yet. The theory at the time was that sperm was a seed which implanted in the womb. There are plenty of Biblicals to back that up. There are also plenty of lines refer to the unborn as human beings. Meanwhile, nowhere that I am aware of does the Bible specifically declare that the unborn are in any way less than human. Nowhere.

And I have to address this line directly:

The Bible doesn’t support a miscarriage (another name for abortion) as murder. Abortions are INDUCED miscarriages. Calling abortion the same thing as miscarriage is like calling strangulation the same thing as suffocation. The point of contention with abortion is that another human being made it happen.

Any rudeness I exhibited towards you in my earlier post was the result of my equal exasperations at libertarians and other people who can't help making illogical arguments. I don't know you personally. You probabally are a decent guy generally. But I'll repeat myself: There is no reason to oppose abortion, unless you think it's the same thing as murder. If it's anything less, then the mother's rights trump all arguments. If abortion isn't murder, it's no different from plastic surgery, or putting you cat to sleep: No one's business but my own. If a human life is, in fact, at stake, there can be no logical argument FOR abortion. Ever. Including the fact that woman's father forcibly impregnated her. If you have any trouble with this line of reasoning, then thanks for your previous help fighting abortions. You are relieved of your duty. You were always pro-choice. You just haven't figured it out yet. Artificial wombs are coming in the next decade. That should be extra confusing for people like you.

The fact that I have to explain all of this to you makes me wonder whether you are telling the truth about all that pro-life activism. You say you "hate abortion, never encourage it, hope to never see it happen." Why?

They don’t mind heaping condemnation on women who are making the hardest and sometimes worst decisions of their lives.

Abortion is always the worst (and last) episode in one person's life. We condemn the women who have them for one reason, plain and simple: The are murdering their own child for being inconvenient.

“We condemn the women who have them for one reason, plain and simple: The are murdering their own child for being inconvenient.”
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You “condemn”, yet, I will pray for you to have compassion, as I did, when taking care of these women who choose “murdering their own child for being inconvenient”, as you put it.

Abortions are sad and traumatic, but there are far worse things than abortion. Blaming 10YO girls for not wanting to carry a rapists baby, Daddy’s baby/ your own half-sister or half-brother is one of them. I find that offensive and call parents who do that “murdering their own child for being inconvenient” and being a victim of rape. I’m sure you have heard the statistics on that. If not, there’s always Google.

Wow. Long post. Yes, I'm going to cherry pick a few items.

What is inconsistent and illogical is for people to use the Bible for their ethical choices but yet ignore sections that do not jibe with their line of ethics. We raise the red flags when the global warming people do this!

People of Biblical times didn't understand the basic science we have today. One was either breathing or not, and this is probably why the penalty for causing a miscarriage was not the same as for killing or murder.

The Biblical support for life at conception is not there and is consistent with science. No blood, no life, not murder.

Is something permissible just because it is not murder? No. There was still a penalty for causing a miscarriage, just not the same as for killing or murder.

Miscarriages are spontaneous abortions. And there are countless that occur in the first weeks as the egg either fails to implant or is rejected and shed with the monthly cycle.

If abortion isn't murder, it's no different from plastic surgery, or putting you cat to sleep:

I'm sorry you feel that way. Some of us do not.

But I'll repeat myself: There is no reason to oppose abortion, unless you think it's the same thing as murder

Again, I'm sorry you feel that way. Some of us do not.

The fact that I have to explain all of this to you makes me wonder whether you are telling the truth about all that pro-life activism.

Sadly, but predictably, when you don't like or agree with the message you have to attack the messanger.

Most of my 'activism' was in Florda, some in Kentucky.

Probably one difference in my attitude and many others is that I do not feel it is up to me personally to stop all abortions. I do not feel the need to control or confine other people. Those others will be accountable to God one day....I am not accountable for what they do and do not feel the need to impose my will on them.

And one thing that most people seem to overlook is that the Bible was written and is for those who want to believe it. The non believers are not bound by it. You can not impose your 'sanctity of life', 'life begins at conception' rules on them any more than you can impose no dancing, no smoking, no drinking, no oral sex, Blue Laws, etc etc ethics that you may volunteer to abide by in your church.

Whether or not abortion is legal, there will be some who seek it out. They and those involved will have to answer for that someday because the legality of it does not alter the morality of it one bit.