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1 posted on 04/05/2010 5:15:07 PM PDT by Kaslin
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Clearly not.

It’s simply not possible to separate socialists from a free society... because they are more expansive than capitalists... and yet so dependent upon the very system they seek to destroy.

If we were to split along ideological lines, with liberals on one side, and conservatives on the other, The liberals would move into the conservative side and start the whole process over again.... and in the long haul, complete loss of capitalism in favor of socialism would result.

Why? because they would have succeeded in the time tested tactic of:

DIVIDE AND CONQUER!


89 posted on 04/05/2010 7:12:11 PM PDT by Safrguns
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Divide it down the middle.... east of the Mississipi to the liberals, illegals, and Muslims, west of the Mississipi to the conservatives.

Of course that means a large volkwanderung of southeastern conservatives to the 50 wide strip along the Pacific coast which will be depopulated by departing liberals. And good riddance — California was paradise when I was a kid, and if the good Southron folk can help us restore it — y’all are most welcome, dudes.


90 posted on 04/05/2010 7:14:37 PM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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Make sure the damn democratic states get to keep their damn debt and millions of “public servants”... with the exception of military personnel who want to come with us and bring their toys.


91 posted on 04/05/2010 7:17:27 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Hey, Barack "Hubris" Obama, $10 is all it would take, why spend millions to cover it up?)
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Red zones grow almost all the food. The ultimate logistical advantage.


94 posted on 04/05/2010 7:25:32 PM PDT by Rytwyng (I'm still fond of the United States. I just can't find it. -- Fred Reed)
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I believe we are nearing a point where there are enough irreconcilable differences between those Americans who want to control other Americans and those Americans who want to be left alone that separation is the only peaceable alternative.

Hear! Hear! There's nothing wrong with telling Washington D.C. you want a divorce. 200+ years was a nice enough marriage but now she's turned into a nagging old shrew that's unliveable to be around.

I want a divorce and there's no reason why a settlement can't be peacefully arranged.

Think of it like a business that divests itself of one of its strongest assets in order to keep the rest of the company afloat. The new country would subsidize a fair share of the debt to buy its freedom from the tyranny of Washington (to obtain federal land, military installations, equipment for air traffic control, etc.) and, in doing so, provide another object lesson as to whether capitalism or communism is the superior form of government.

It was already tried in East Germany vs. West Germnay and we all know which system survived. But the liberals want to make Washington and the country the new East Germany, so I say let's re-enact this experiment all over again and see which economic model endures.

95 posted on 04/05/2010 7:26:17 PM PDT by OrangeHoof ("Barack Obama" is Swahili for "Bend over suckahs".)
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Haven’t read all the posts so if these are repeat questions I apologize.

Where’s our Capitol going to be?
How do we relocate the Obama maniacs from the red states to the blue states?

Remember: Ticks follow the blood supply so...we of course will have to fire up our gun factories and defense companies to full throttle!!


97 posted on 04/05/2010 7:32:37 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Control the American people? Herding cats would be easier.)
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I think the Freedom loving States of this Federation need to get together in a separate manner, separate from congress and deliver the rest of the U.S.A. the tyrant’s an ultimatum:

Either Respect our rights to be left alone and govern ourselves, or we will seek separation from you, and if that leads to violence and bloodshed we are committed to defend our rights no matter the cost.

But we will no longer remain subjects of your unrestricted tyranny! We will either be free State along sides you in peace or in a war.


99 posted on 04/05/2010 7:33:57 PM PDT by Monorprise
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Some independence movements, such as our 1776 war with England and our 1861 War Between the States, have been violent, but they need not be. In 1905, Norway seceded from Sweden; Panama seceded from Columbia (1903), and West Virginia from Virginia (1863).

Not just that. Just a few years back, Czkeckoslovakia split into the Czech Republic and the Slovak Republic without any bloodshed in a nice civilized manner. A few years before that the former republics of the former USSR, split into their individual 15 independent republics like Georgia, Azerbaijan , Turkmenistan etc, without that much trouble. So it can be done.

Nonetheless, violent secession can lead to great friendships. England is probably our greatest ally.”

Been known to happen.

103 posted on 04/05/2010 7:51:26 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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bookmark


105 posted on 04/05/2010 7:54:19 PM PDT by Citizen Soldier ("You care far too much what is written and said about you." Axelrod to Obama 2006)
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Bump for later reading


106 posted on 04/05/2010 7:54:51 PM PDT by IYellAtMyTV (Workday Forecast--Increasing pressure towards afternoon. Rum likely by evening.)
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It sounds like a good idea in theory, but does the Constitution have a provision for such a thing?


109 posted on 04/05/2010 7:59:15 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Liberal sacred cows make great hamburger)
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Why not? Surely, that would be the best thing not just for us, but for the Lefties too. It would certainly be more democratic. As it is now, we get in power and impose our beliefs on them against their will. Then they get into power and do the exact same thing. Letting Massachusetts control Texas or vice-versa really isn’t governing by the “consent of the governed.”


112 posted on 04/05/2010 8:04:41 PM PDT by FenwickBabbitt
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ping


123 posted on 04/05/2010 8:34:42 PM PDT by Chuckster (Domari nolo!)
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Dang, I like living where my ancestors settled ~320 years ago...


124 posted on 04/05/2010 8:36:57 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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Good point by Walter Williams.


131 posted on 04/05/2010 9:10:12 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Pick up your weapon and follow me.)
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If you look at the voting maps by precinct you'll see a stark political division between urban and rural. States, and even counties, do not have enough resolution to do what you suggest. Example: even famously Leftist state New York is, geographically, dominantly conservative - there's just tiny islands of stark Leftism.
132 posted on 04/05/2010 9:12:26 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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139 posted on 04/05/2010 10:09:00 PM PDT by Miztiki ( FReeper Jeff Head needs our help! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2481989/posts)
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First somebody needs to come up with a way to keep ‘them’ from slithering into our country when their ratholes get worse and then we can start planning.


141 posted on 04/05/2010 10:33:56 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Stop paying ACORN to destroy America! Cut off their federal funding!)
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Upon reading this article, I agree its probably best that we part way and split into 2 or more Federations, if either side refuses to go back to strictly limited and highly spartan constitutional Federal government.

We simply cannot live together like this!

We will never agree on how to run all theses aspects of our diverse 300 million lives, nor will we agree even whether or not to attempt to run them from the government!

We have to split ways before this becomes a matter of blood shed. A house divided against itself cannot stand, so let us move out into separate houses!

Let us divorce ourselves from the oppressive central authority which we can never agree on.

We can each have our own way in our own lands and leave each other alone.


142 posted on 04/05/2010 10:43:51 PM PDT by Monorprise
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Yes. I prefer that to an inevitable CWII.


143 posted on 04/05/2010 10:45:01 PM PDT by mojitojoe (I don't care what you passed. you are irrelevant. I'll NEVER comply in any way. Read my lips, NEVER!)
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