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Obama, Kipling, and the Bomb
Pajamas Media ^ | April 6, 2010 | Roger Kimball

Posted on 04/06/2010 6:29:46 PM PDT by neverdem

So, Barack Obama, in pursuit of a world in which nuclear weapons are “obsolete,” just announced [1] that he is “revamping American nuclear strategy to substantially narrow the conditions” under which the United States would use such weapons. To set an “example” to other nations, the president also announced that the United States was renouncing the development of any new nuclear weapons.

What sort of “example” do you suppose this sets? To begin to comprehend what the president has in mind, contemplate these two declarations, just reported in The New York Times:

For the first time, the United States is explicitly committing not to use nuclear weapons against nonnuclear states that are in compliance with the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, even if they attacked the United States with biological or chemical weapons or launched a crippling cyberattack.

Got that? A “crippling” cyberattack, an attack with biological or chemical weapons: go for it Ahmed, your country (assuming you have a country) has promised, cross your heart, not to develop or use nuclear weapons so you’re home (almost) free.

We infidels needn’t worry, though, because the president, though he said in one breath that the United States promised not to respond with nuclear weapons even if it suffered a crippling biological, chemical, or cyberattack, said in the next breath that any such threats...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bloggersandpersonal; copybookheadings; kipling; obama; rudyardkipling

1 posted on 04/06/2010 6:29:46 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Sounds more like stupidity than example.


2 posted on 04/06/2010 6:31:47 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: neverdem

Oh well, we’ll need a new whitehouse anyway.


3 posted on 04/06/2010 6:32:04 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: neverdem
I believe it is peace for our time



Neville Chamberlain, displaying the Munich Treaty, signed with Adolph Hitler, on September 30, 1938.

We all know how well that little phase of voluntary, unilateral disarmament went over.

4 posted on 04/06/2010 6:37:22 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Ole Okie

Obumbler calls it Peace Through Cowardice.


5 posted on 04/06/2010 6:37:49 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Diabolic treason disguised as naivete.


6 posted on 04/06/2010 6:39:01 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Admin Moderator

bloggers and personal?


7 posted on 04/06/2010 6:40:57 PM PDT by raptor22 (The truth will set us free)
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To: Oceander

Neville was an Einstein compared to what we have now.. Our butts are in the gun sights now...


8 posted on 04/06/2010 6:45:16 PM PDT by hstacey
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To: hstacey

Neville was substantially brighter than our little affirmative-action baby is.


9 posted on 04/06/2010 6:57:57 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: Oceander

I have a tomato growing in the backyard smarter than “The Boy King”...


10 posted on 04/06/2010 7:00:39 PM PDT by hstacey
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To: prairiebreeze

read tomorrow


11 posted on 04/06/2010 7:07:47 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (My dad, a WWII vet always said that America's best ally is Britain. He was right.)
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To: Oceander

As much as we deride Chamberlain for the “Peace in our time” dodge, history shows that he followed the only course that could promise any measure of success against the Nazis. Germany had superior forces and weapons in 1938. The British and their allies were apathetic or opposed to war. The Brits would have had to transport armies across nations unwilling to accomodate them and provision them in the field. Hitler could stay home.

Given these realities, Neville Chamberlain could only stall and pray that he could buy enough time to match Germany’s forces.

It is therefore unfair to compare him to Barack 0bama, because 0bama believes his own rhetoric. He thinks that although our system is superior in terms of strength, economy, governance, liberty, education, and innovation, we should kneel to cultures that are despicable in every modern measure.

It is an interesting paradox that stupidity of this depth is the product of higher education. Historians will puzzle over it in future generations.


12 posted on 04/06/2010 8:00:22 PM PDT by sig226 (Mourn this day, the death of a great republic. March 21, 2010)
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To: sig226
No, actually. History shows precisely the opposite. If Chamberlain hadn't been amongst those pseudo-intellectuals who, as Thomas Sowell has termed it, pursued the idea of "cosmic justice," and had, instead, taken a realist's eye to the costs and benefits of the starry-eyed peace-through-voluntary-disarmament that most of the West pursued after WWI, then Hitler would have either been dissuaded altogether from his visions of Europe entirely under his thumb, or else would have been beaten back and defeated without the West having come so perilously close to extinction.

What Neville Chamberlain and the liberals of his day did was, and is, inexcusable, as Winston Churchill well recognized, but had too much tact and grace to say as much.

That it was inexcusable back in 1938 makes it trebly inexcusable today, given the sorry lessons that were writ in the blood of millions about the necessary consequences of pacifism as a national security policy.

Flushing Congress

13 posted on 04/06/2010 8:08:35 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: neverdem

Yeah, sure. Lets pretend that nukes are “obsolete” till one blows up on our soil.


14 posted on 04/06/2010 8:32:45 PM PDT by rbg81 (DRAIN THE SWAMP!!)
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To: Oceander

Even if he demanded that England arm itself immediately, he would have had to get the rest of the government to agree to it. I’m not sure he could have done that. Even if England was willing, the rest of Europe was not. The desire of some people to bury their heads in the sand is remarkable, and the language they use to justify themselves is received as a call to honor instead of a plea for suicide. Sad realities, really.


15 posted on 04/06/2010 8:40:40 PM PDT by sig226 (Mourn this day, the death of a great republic. March 21, 2010)
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To: sig226

Counterfactuals are a lot of fun to play with; however, they are neither here nor there, and the simple, blunt fact of the matter is, Neville Chamberlain was not simply making the best of a rotten hand of cards, he was a four-square accomplice in the asinine liberal disarmament movement that preceded WWII. There was, and is, no excuse for what he did.


16 posted on 04/06/2010 8:42:19 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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