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Does your faith free you from forced Obamacare?
WND via The Woodward Report ^ | April 6, 2009 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 04/06/2010 8:47:01 PM PDT by honestabe010

The recent health-care reform legislation carries a controversial mandate that all Americans obtain health insurance, but careful study of the passed law reveals there are some groups – the Amish, for example – that can obtain an exemption.

For devout Muslims, however, whose religious beliefs forbid purchasing insurance, the mandate is still binding, religion or not. And most other religious, political or conscientious objectors will similarly find themselves out of luck if they hope to be excused from the requirement.

There is a clause in the fine print, however, that could provide an out for those willing to take it.

Section 1501 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act adds a new chapter to the Internal Revenue Code mandating all "applicable" individuals either obtain health insurance that meets the bill's "minimum essential coverage" standards or pay a penalty on tax day.

Section 1501 also spells out exceptions, those who are not considered "applicable" individuals, both for the mandate and for the penalty. Illegal aliens, foreign nationals and incarcerated prisoners, for example, are exempt from the mandate. The extreme poor and members of Indian tribes, while not exempt from the requirement, are nonetheless excused from paying the penalty.

But section 1501 also carries a pair of "religious exemptions" that will allow the Amish to escape the mandate but require Muslims and other religious objectors to get creative.

The law creates a religious exemption for those who are members and faithful adherents of a "recognized religious sect or division" with "established tenets or teachings" barring the "acceptance of the benefits of any private or public insurance."

(Excerpt) Read more at thewoodwardreport.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: healthcare; obamacare; socialism; socialisthealthcare
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1 posted on 04/06/2010 8:47:01 PM PDT by honestabe010
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To: honestabe010

My faith is 100% anti-communist, so indeed, I will not comply.


2 posted on 04/06/2010 8:48:44 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: honestabe010

Time to grow a beard I guess....


3 posted on 04/06/2010 8:50:27 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: honestabe010

If my 1st Amendment Freedoms don’t free me from Obamacare.. My 2nd Amendment Freedoms sure will.


4 posted on 04/06/2010 8:50:57 PM PDT by gwilhelm56 (Obama ... Mein Kampf is NOT a Textbook!!)
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To: gwilhelm56

Amen


5 posted on 04/06/2010 8:52:02 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: honestabe010
Which means that the federal government now requires proof of religious affiliation. Obamacare will be snuffed out under legal scrutiny and court challenges.
6 posted on 04/06/2010 8:53:14 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: honestabe010

>>Conscientious objectors to the mandate, also excluded from any exemption, have already voiced their intent to challenge the law because they don’t think the requirement is legal.

“If [the Amish] can do it for religious objection, well, I have a different type of objection,” Ilya Shapiro, a senior fellow in constitutional studies at the Cato Institute told Fox News. “I think I’m being coerced into doing something against my will, and so the challenge would be from a different perspective.”


7 posted on 04/06/2010 8:53:41 PM PDT by max americana
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To: honestabe010

There are 3 Christian healthcare programs exempt from Obamacare. They were posted here earlier. They will send any Christian info on their programs.

The caveats are that you do not smoke, you do not abuse alcohol, and that you do not engage in sex with people other than your spouse. If you can handle those requirements, you can handle these alternatives to having to be in Obamacare.

I predict these programs will see a big increase in people joinign them.


8 posted on 04/06/2010 8:54:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: KoRn

Who knew Weird Al was a prophet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOfZLb33uCg


9 posted on 04/06/2010 8:55:55 PM PDT by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG 49) "Freedom's Fortress")
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To: honestabe010
The extreme poor and members of Indian tribes

Members of Indian Tribes already have 'Indian Health", which, imho, was one of the best arguments against Obamacare.

It provided for some things, but the money always seemed to run out before the year did, and there were levels of paperwork and hoops to jump through before anything but emergency care, which might not be covered if someone decided it was not an emergency.

Levels of care can be dependent on who you are related to as much as whether you are a member of the tribe.

But to 'exempt' people the Government is already covering as part of a treaty arrangement is not 'giving' anything to anyone.

10 posted on 04/06/2010 8:58:54 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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“.... mandate that all Americans obtain health insurance ...”


Somebody needs to ask obama if the welfare baby factories are going to have to pay this mandatory health insurance.

My guess is that the mandatory health insurance is pretty much for those that have been responsible and that haven’t tried to live off the government dole.

Also, BABY MAMA shouldn’t be getting the same amount of money from the government for baby #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, etc. Seems that these baby factories should start to get economies of scale at some point.

I am sick of it. I hear people talk all the time about these unwed mothers having one baby after another that the taxpayers are having to pay for.

Also, if they have one crack baby or meth baby, they need to have a Norplant II put in their arm so they cannot have any more. If they’ve got babies they cannot afford, they should get the Norplant’s too until they show they don’t have to sponge off society.

obama doesn’t want to talk about these baby factories. And, no, baby factories won’t be paying mandatory health insurance. Baby Mama isn’t going to jail because she didn’t pay.


11 posted on 04/06/2010 8:59:14 PM PDT by boycott (CAL)
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The caveats are that you do not smoke, you do not abuse alcohol, and that you do not engage in sex with people other than your spouse. If you can handle those requirements, you can handle these alternatives to having to be in Obamacare.

I'm 78 years old, married 54 years...Whoopee!

12 posted on 04/06/2010 9:01:55 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Secret Agent Man

We have been in one of those groups for years. I’m glad that we don’t need to change. I just hope with a lot more people coming in that it doesn’t change the dynamics of the program. People not following through on their contribution to the published need could ruin it for the rest of us.


13 posted on 04/06/2010 9:09:19 PM PDT by Pure Country (“I’ve noticed that every person that is for abortion has already been born.” -Ronald Reagan)
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To: KoRn

“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, ...”

This law could be unconstitutional just because it makes exceptions for certain religious convictions.


14 posted on 04/06/2010 9:09:20 PM PDT by Tellurian
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To: Don Corleone

Way to go DC!


15 posted on 04/06/2010 9:09:47 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: honestabe010
Does your faith free you from forced Obamacare?

My faith in Jesus will tromp anything Obama has to offer.

16 posted on 04/06/2010 9:11:53 PM PDT by doc1019
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To: Secret Agent Man

Do participants in these programs incur lower annual costs than what they would in Obamacare?


17 posted on 04/06/2010 9:13:08 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: doc1019

trump, too


18 posted on 04/06/2010 9:13:27 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: Don Corleone

This would include the single who are chaste as well....


19 posted on 04/06/2010 9:14:05 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Ooooops.


20 posted on 04/06/2010 9:15:29 PM PDT by doc1019
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