Skip to comments.Town rallies around accused killer of molester
Posted on 04/08/2010 1:58:41 PM PDT by Niuhuru
Usually, when someone whos been a mainstay of a community gets shot and killed in his own home, theres a public outcry to bring his killer to justice. But not in the idyllic Pacific Coast town of Fort Bragg, Calif., where the citizenry has risen up in support of the man who pulled the trigger.
Aaron Vargas has been in jail ever since Feb. 8, 2009, when police say he shot and killed Darrell McNeill, the man he alleges sexually abused him when he was just 11 years old. After the shooting, 12 other men came forward to say that McNeill, a former Boy Scout leader and popular member of the community, had also abused them. Some had reported the abuse but law enforcement officials took no action.
When the truth came out, the town rallied behind the 32-year-old Vargas. Citizens held demonstrations demanding that he be freed from jail. T-shirts supporting his cause are being sold, with the proceeds going to his legal defense. Cars sport bumper stickers supporting him. Even McNeills widow is defending Vargas.
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So, why didn’t LE do anything?
If I were on the jury I’d give him a day in jail as a token punishment.
Until child molesters get put to death in this country (not all ‘sex offenders.’ CHILD RAPISTS) I can’t make an argument against someone doing this. There is no justice right now.
Perhaps the reluctance to believe charges against a prominent person.Perhaps complicity.Perhaps laziness.
So why not just let the guy plea down to a misdemeanor - give him probation - and call it a day?
Something like this happened years ago. A boy was molested on a kids baseball team by the coach. The law found the coach in another state and was going to transport via air back to the state where the crime was committed. The father of the boy was at the airport and when the arresting officers walked the molester past the father of the boy, the father shot and killed him. The court put the father on trial and put him on probation.
He clearly deserves to be found guilty and be fined one dollar and a carton of cigarettes.
Should have pled 'not guilty' and not waived his right to a speedy trial, he'd be out by now. His lawyer was incompetent.
Father? Maybe you - maybe me - are thinking of a different story.
Ellie Nesler (Mother) was famous for gunning down a sex perv...
I don’t remember all the details, but a few years back in a somewhat similar case a mother shot and killed the guy she thought had molested her son.
Unfortunately, DNA proved he wasn’t the guy.
Vigilantism too often kills the wrong people.
You are absolutely correct but if it were my son???????? Emotions take over at times and need to be considered.
Sounds like street justice is gaining in popularity. I’m thankful for it.
Now THAT’S meaningful recovery therapy.
Especially when it comes to protecting kids. I coached kids in football up through Freshmen for over 15 years and would have done anything to protect them.
In cases where there's no imminent threat, arrest and a fair trial by jury is still the best way in the long run.
Imminent threat? *BANG*
Vigilantism is a much more untamed monster that can quickly turn into mob rule.
“the gun went off,”
Why wasn’t the damn gun charged with murder?
While said reasoning is sound were appropriate punishment administered, too often it is not.
That is why the minimum penalty should be castration, and not the chemical type which requires ongoing medication-- the type which my brother and I used to do on a ranch when I wrestled the calves to the ground and he extracted the rocky mountain oysters.
I actually disagree with that reasoning, but I am not king, so I can’t change the laws.
Except as a juror who refuses to convict. . .
A. Lincoln, 1838: “When men take it in their heads to day, to hang gamblers, or burn murderers, they should recollect, that, in the confusion usually attending such transactions, they will be as likely to hang or burn some one who is neither a gambler nor a murderer as one who is; and that, acting upon the example they set, the mob of to-morrow, may, and probably will, hang or burn some of them by the very same mistake.”
The best approach is for the intended victim to kill the
perp before the crime is finalized. No chance of getting the wrong guy that way.
Reminds me a little of the lady in our town who put all six
rounds in her worthless abusive husband with his own
revolver, then called the cops. Her attorney was lucky
and skilled enough to keep the proceedings local where
everyone knew the guy. I think she ended up being charged
with discharging a firearm within the city limits. There was
some talk of taking up a community collection to pay the fine.
There is a lot of street justice happening with the armed citizenry, but in CA and TX, illegals and gangs have their own justice going on every day in the streets.
Agreed. It saves everyone else a lot of time and money too.
I certainly agree with you, and while I’m not in favor of vigilantism, I sure understand the emotions that would lead someone to such action.
If a perv gets killed this way, I won’t lose any sleep, and would prefer to see a reduced sentence for the killer. The perv hasn’t suffered any injustice.
But there’s always a chance he isn’t the right guy. Kids sometimes lie, for example.
One of my favorite Hank Williams Jr. songs is about a Father that “handles some unfinished business”:
When so many common sense laws are not enforced, ie.. immigration laws, traffic laws, corruption laws against member of congress, buglery laws, illegals driving without proper car registration, etc...
The masses will start turning to vigiliantism.
When street justice is gaining popularity it is because government is failing to do its constitutional duties. Or in other words, when it citizens lose faith in the system to provide justice the citizens take the law into their own hands. There is something to be said for due process.
Overall that is not a good thing.
Wasn't there a video of this incident?
I recall seeing just such a thing years ago. The father was standing in a fairly narrow hallway, ostensibly talking on a payphone at the time...when the cops brought the perp in to the station house via that hallway...BANG! Brain bits all over the cameraman who was across the hall from the payphone.
Correct, it was all over the news.
Absolutely true. Accidents will happen but it can sure make people think from time to time.
You have to understand that married heterosexual relationships in Fort Bragg, CA are considered an alternate life style.
And such is the case here. Justice for the=is killer is absolute freedom, no conviction, no punishment, not even token punishment. And maybe a parade in his honor for helping clean up the community.
Here's a case where there was a trial, including multiple appeals, and the vigilantes decided they didn't like the outcome. There is considerable doubt the lynchee was guilty.
No, it was the father. He did it in the airport as the police were bring the pervert in from extradition. He shot the guy right in front of the news cameras, which were rolling. I can’t find the details in a quick search, but someone will remember the names.
Also I’d like to point out that once if too often.
People are pretty often wrongly convicted in a trial. Without a trial it is reasonable to assume the chance of error increases.
I can’t see this as a bad thing.
I’ve read your posts, are you inferring that in this case the alleged pervert may be innocent?
I’m originally from a suberb of Bristol PA, a few maple shaded apartments away from the railroad tracks, and I hopped my share like everyone else. There was a convicted shild molestor who was sent home to live with his parents after 10 years in the local mental institution, which was known as Byberry. Older folks from the Philly area may remember Byberry. It was a home for the criminally insane. The type of people that havbe ALREADY been a danger to others in a permanent way. He went missing within weeks. He was never found. It was generally considered that justice was served.
I remember that video. The molesters head blew out the side. Never knew what happened to the dad.
Last I heard he got probation.
Nope. I know nothing about this case. Given the community support for the killer, I suspect the perv was indeed guilty. They know a whole lot more about it than I do.
The 12 additional guys coming forth is pretty convincing.
I’m a big fan of dead child molesters and rapists.
I am just not a big fan of vigilantism, due to its obvious potential for killing the wrong people.
Frontal lobotomy AND physical castration. ... And I used to be the ‘cutter’ when removing pig testicles on the farm. The sound is indescribable ... poor creatures.
ping to post #45
wow! haven’t seen that in years.
Ft. Bragg is one of the most left wing towns in CA, including SF. Luckily it is small and lightly populated and located in a remote area of the coast. It surprises me that so many of the people are on this guys side.
Thanks. I knew somebody would recall the case. We need more men like Gary Plauche.