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Posted on 04/10/2010 12:18:01 PM PDT by howkn

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To: michgirl

Ivy League schools and other older private colleges sometimes do have students write an undergraduate thesis.
For example, from Harvard College, the Liberal Arts undergraduate college of Harvard University:
http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/thesis/repo/view/subjects/HT.html


161 posted on 04/11/2010 1:09:43 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: michgirl
No one writes a thesis as an undergrad -was this his masters thesis?

It was the New York Times who improperly referred to it as a thesis.

New York Times:
"He barely mentions Columbia, training ground for the elite, where he transferred in his junior year, majoring in political science and international relations and writing his thesis on Soviet nuclear disarmament."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2490528/posts?page=88#88

The earlier article I linked to had the word 'thesis' in quotes in the title, as if they understood it wasn't really a thesis:

Obama and the case of the missing 'thesis'
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2490528/posts?page=42#42

In any case, what I suspect they may have been referring to was the article Obama apparently wrote for the Columbia newspaper Sundial: "Breaking the War Mentality"

Barack Obama: "Breaking the War Mentality"
March 10, 1983, Sundial

Most students at Columbia do not have first hand knowledge of war. Military violence has been a vicarious experience, channeled into our minds through television, film, and print.

The more sensitive among us struggle to extrapolate experiences of war from our everyday experience, discussing the latest mortality statistics from Guatemala, sensitizing ourselves to our parents' wartime memories, or incorporating into our framework of reality as depicted by a Mailer or a Coppola. But the taste of war -- the sounds and chill, the dead bodies -- are remote and far removed. We know that wars have occurred, will occur, are occurring, but bringing such experience down into our hearts, and taking continual, tangible steps to prevent war, becomes a difficult task.

Two groups on campus, Arms Race Alternatives (ARA) and Students Against Militarism (SAM) work within these mental limits to foster awareness and practical action necessary to counter the growing threat of war. Though the emphasis of the two groups differ, they share an aversion to current government policy. These groups, visualizing the possibilities of destruction and grasping the tendencies of distorted national priorities, are throwing their weight into shifting America off the dead-end track.

"Most people my age remember well the air-raid drills in school, under the desk with our heads tucked between our legs. Older people, they remember the Cuban Missile Crisis. I think these kinds of things left an indelible mark on our souls, so we're more apt to be concerned," says Don Kent, assistant director of programs and student activities at Earl Hall Center. Along with the community Volunteer Service Center, ARA has been Don's primary concern, coordinating various working groups of faculty, students, and staff members, while simultaneously seeking the ever elusive funding for programs.

"When I first came here two years ago, Earl Hall had been a holding tank for five years. Paul Martin (director of Earl Hall) and I discussed our interests, and decided that ARA would be one of the programs we pushed." Initially, most of the work was done by non-student volunteers and staff. "Hot issues, particularly El Salvador, were occupying students at the time. Consequently, we cosponsored a lot of activities with community organizations like SANE (Students Against Nuclear Energy)."

With the flowering of the nuclear freeze movement, and particularly the June 12 rally in Central Park, however student participation has expanded. One wonders whether this upsurge stems from young people's penchant for the latest 'happenings' or from growing awareness of the consequences of nuclear holocaust. ARA maintains a mailing list of 500 persons and Don Kent estimates that approximately half of the active members are students. Although he feels that continuity is provided by the faculty and staff members, student attendance at ARA sponsored events -- in particular a November 11 convocation on the nuclear threat -- reveals a deep reservoir of concern. "I think students on this campus like to think of themselves a sophisticated, and don't appreciate small vision. So they tend to come out more for the events; they do not want to just fold leaflets."

Mark Bigelow, a graduate intern from Union Theological Seminary who works with Don to keep ARA running smoothly, agrees. "It seems that students here are fairly aware of the nuclear problem, and it makes for an underlying frustration. We try to talk to that frustration." Consequently, the thrust of ARA is towards generating dialogue which will give people a rational handle on this controversial subject. This includes bringing speakers like Daniel Ellsberg to campus, publishing fact sheets compiled by interested faculty, and investigating the possible development of an interdisciplinary program in the Columbia curriculum dealing with peace, disarmament, and world order.

Tied in with such a thrust is the absence of what Don calls "a party line." By taking an almost apolitical approach to the problem, ARA hopes to get the university to take nuclear arms issues seriously. "People don't like having their intelligence insulted," says Don. "so we try to disseminate information and allow the individual to make his or her own decision."

Generally, the narrow focus of the Freeze movement as well as academic discussions of first versus second strike capabilities, suit the military-industrial interests, as they continue adding to their billion dollar erector sets. When Peter Tosh sings that "everybody's asking for peace, but nobody's asking for justice," one is forced to wonder whether disarmament or arms control issues, severed from economic and political issues, might be another instance of focusing on the symptoms of a problem instead of the disease itself. Mark Bigelow does not think so. "We do focus primarily on catastrophic weapons. Look, we say, here's the worst part . Let's work on that. You're not going to get rid of the military in the near future, so let's at least work on this."

Mark Bigelow does feel that the links are there, and points to fruitful work being done by other organizations involved with disarmament. "The Freeze is one part of a whole disarmament movement. The lowest common denominator, so to speak. For instance, April 10-16 is Jobs For Peace week, with a bunch of things going on around the city. Also, the New York City Council may pass a resolution in April calling for greater social as opposed to military spending. Things like this may dispel the idea that disarmament is a white issue, because how the government spends its revenue affects everyone."

The very real advantages of concentrating on a single issue is leading the National Freeze movement to challenge individual missile systems, while continuing the broader campaign. This year, Mark Bigelow sees the checking of Pershing II and Cruise missile deployment as crucial. "Because of their small size and mobility, their deployment will make possible arms control verification far more difficult, and will cut down warning time for the Soviets to less than ten minutes. That can only be a destabilizing factor." Additionally, he sees the initiation by the U.S. of the Test Ban Treaty as a powerful first step towards a nuclear free world.

ARA encourages members to join buses to Washington and participate in a March 7-8 rally intended to push through the Freeze resolution which is making its second trip through the House. ARA also will ask United Campuses to Prevent Nuclear War (UCAM), an information and lobbying network based in universities, nationwide, to serve as its advisory board in the near future. Because of its autonomy from Columbia (which does not fund political organizations), UCAM could conceivably become a more active arm of disarmament campaigns on campus, thought the ARA will continue to function solely as a vehicle for information and discussion.

Also operating out of Earl Hall Center, Students Against Militarism was formed in response to the passage of registration laws in 1980. An entirely student-run organization, SAM casts a wider net than ARA, though for the purposes of effectiveness, they have tried to lock in on one issue at a time.

"At the heart of our organization is an anti-war focus," says junior Robert Kahn, one of SAM's fifteen or so active members. "From there, a lot of issues shoot forth -- nukes, racism, the draft, and South Africa. We have been better organized when taking one issue at a time, but we are always cognizant of other things going on, and collaborate frequently with other campus organizations like CISPES [CISPES link added by myself -ETL] and REELPOLITIK"

At this time, the current major issue is the Solomon Bill, the latest legislation from Congress to obtain compliance to registration. The law requires that all male students applying for federal financial aid submit proof of registration, or else the government coffers will close. Yale, Wesleyan, and Swathmore have refused to comply, and plan to offer non-registrants other forms of financial aid. SAM hopes to press Columbia into following suit, though so far President Sovern and company seem prepared to acquiesce to the bill.

Robert believes students tacitly support non-registrants, though the majority did not comply. "Several students have come up to our tables and said that had they known of the ineffectiveness of the prosecution, they would not have registered." A measure of such underlying support is the 400 signatures on a petition protesting the Solomon Bill, which SAM collected the first four hours it appeared. Robert also points out that prior to registration, there were four separate bills circulating in the House proposing a return to the draft, but none ever got out of committees, and there have not been renewed efforts. An estimated half-million non-registrants can definitely be a powerful signal.

Prodding students into participating beyond name signing and attending events is tricky, but SAM members seem undaunted. "A lot of the problem comes not from people's ignorance of the facts, but because the news and statistics are lifeless. That's why we search for campus issues like the Solomon bill that have direct impact on the student body, and effectively link the campus to broader issues." By organizing and educating the Columbia community, such activities lay the foundation for future mobilization against the relentless, often silent spread of militarism in the country. "The time is right to tie together social and military issues," Robert continues, "and the more strident the Administration becomes, the more aware people are of their real interests."

The belief that moribund institutions, rather than the individuals, are at the root of the problem, keep SAM's energies alive. "A prerequisite for members of an organization like ours is the faith that people are fundamentally good, but you need to show them, and when you look at the work people are doing across the country, it makes you optimistic."

Perhaps the essential goodness of humanity is an arguable proposition, but by observing the SAM meeting last Thursday night, with its solid turnout and enthusiasm, one might be persuaded that the manifestations of our better instincts can at least match the bad ones. Regarding Columbia's possible compliance, one comment in particular hit upon an important point with the Solomon bill, "The thing we need to do is expose how Columbia is talking out of two sides of its mouth."

Indeed, the most pervasive malady of the collegiate system specifically, and the American experience generally, is that elaborate patterns of knowledge and theory have been disembodied from individual choices and government policy. What members of ARA and SAM try to do is infuse what they have learned about the current situation, bring the words of that formidable roster on the face of Butler Library, names like Thoreau, Jefferson, and Whitman, to bear on the twisted logic of which we are today a part. By adding their energy and effort in order to enhance the possibility of a decent world, they may help deprive us of a spectacular experience--that of war. But then, there are some things we shouldn't have to live through in order to want to avoid the experience.

Posted on Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:30:27 PM by Ultra Sonic 007:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2174704/posts
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Side note: Obama mentions in this '83 article the org, CISPES (Committee In Solidarity with the People of El Salvador). They apparently are still around, and are as red as ever.

From their website...

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"CISPES joins the Alliance for Global Justice, SOA Watch, and other members of the Latin America Solidarity Coalition in denouncing today's coup in Honduras. CISPES committees are joining rallies at consulates around the country to demand the reinstatement of the democratically elected Honduran president."

The CISPES Mission Statement:

"We are a grassroots organization dedicated to supporting the Salvadoran people’s struggle forself-determination and social and economic justice. The alternative that they are building --an alternative based upon democratic and socialist ideals--is an example to all people who seek a world free of domination and exploitation. We support that alternative because we believe that capitalism is a fundamentally unjust, oppressive and ecologically unsustainable economic system. We join with poor and working people, immigrants and refugees in the struggle against neoliberalism-- the current manifestation of capitalism imposed by the United States government and its state, institutional and corporate allies. Neoliberal policies continue to produce enormous suffering and destabilization around the world. We focus our work on El Salvador because of the U.S. government’s continuing military, economic, and political intervention on behalf of U.S. corporate interests, and because the Salvadoran people’s tenacious and inspiring struggle to build social justice."

http://www.cispes.org/
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From the New York Times...

Obama's 1983 College Magazine Article
["Breaking the War Mentality"]

"In 1983, at the height of the cold war, Barack Obama, then a senior at Columbia University, wrote in a campus newsmagazine about the vision of "a nuclear free world." The article in the Sundial profiled two campus groups: Arms Race Alternatives and Students Against Militarism."

http://documents.nytimes.com/obama-s-1983-college-magazine-article#p=1

162 posted on 04/11/2010 1:24:40 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: registereduser
When would BO have learned Farsi? The Koran is written in Arabic and they don’t speak Farsi in Indonesia.

Why would the CIA need Farsi speakers in Pakistan or Afghanistan? The main language of Pakistan is Urdu. In Afghanistan it is Pashto and Dari.

If Manning’s research hasn’t answered these basic questions what makes you think the rest of his theories are any more cogent.

Great points.
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"The CIA needed Muslims or others who were fluent in Farsi and who could easily blend into the Muslim environment in the Middle East. The CIA persuaded Columbia University to extend their foreign student program to Obama, now a Columbia student, so that he might travel to Pakistan and enroll in the universities around Karachi in addition to the Patrice Lumumba School in Moscow. [1]"

http://robertscourt.blogspot.com/2010/04/obama-cia-agent.html
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However, the claim that Obama knowingly went against the Soviet Union is convincing enough to me that this is BS. Obama was right in the middle of the pro-Soviet Union "no-nukes" movement of the 80s.

"Obama, as an undercover agent, was the lead agent in the arms and money supply for the CIA-trained Taliban Army against the Soviet Army war machine. His actions were integral to the Taliban’s success in their opposition to the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan."

http://robertscourt.blogspot.com/2010/04/obama-cia-agent.html
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Riverside Church is only about 2 blocks away from Columbia.

From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: Institute For Policy Studies (IPS)

IPS’s [Institute For Policy Studies] Washington, DC headquarters quickly became a resource center for national reporters and a place for KGB agents from the nearby Soviet embassy to convene and strategize. Cora Weiss headed one of the IPS's most successful forays -- into Riverside Church in Manhattan. She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of "peace." In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations. During her decade-long tenure at Riverside, which became home to the National Council of Churches, Weiss regularly received Russian KGB agents, Sandinista friends, and Cuban intelligence agents. Weiss became infamous for her role in the psychological warfare conducted against U.S. prisoners of war held in the infamous "Hanoi Hilton" during the Vietnam War.

The Liberation News Service, which is a news source for hundreds of "alternative" publications nationwide (with antiwar, Marxist-oriented perspectives), was founded in 1967 with IPS assistance."

[lots more at link...]

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6991
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On a related note, Communist Party USA is planning to launch a brand new campaign from Riverside Church on communist 'May Day' (5/1/2010).

See:
Communist Led “Peace Movement” to Target US Military Budget
Guided by the Communist Party USA, the U.S. “peace movement” is entering a new phase.
http://keywiki.org/blog/?p=101

163 posted on 04/11/2010 2:17:15 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: American Constitutionalist
Some even thought that Noah was a crackpot for building a Ark... I guess he was proven right all along...

Can't argue with that "logic".

164 posted on 04/11/2010 2:19:46 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: jamese777
Ivy League schools and other older private colleges sometimes do have students write an undergraduate thesis.
For example, from Harvard College, the Liberal Arts undergraduate college of Harvard University:
http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/thesis/repo/view/subjects/HT.html

Didn't catch your response until just now. Perhaps then there was another piece he wrote on "disarmament"? (in addition to the previously linked article he wrote for the campus newsmagazine Sundial: "Breaking the War Mentality")

165 posted on 04/11/2010 2:25:31 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Frank Marshall Davis

From Accuracy In Media | AIM.ORG

Obama’s Red Mentor Praised Red Army
AIM Report | By Cliff Kincaid | April 30, 2008

Barack Obama’s childhood mentor, Frank Marshall Davis, a member of the Moscow-controlled Communist Party USA (CPUSA), wrote a poem dedicated to the Soviet Red Army. “Smash on, victory-eating Red Army,” he declared. He also wrote poems attacking traditional Christianity and the work of Christian missionaries.

The “Red Army” poem goes beyond hoping for the communists to beat the Nazis in World War II and hails the Soviet revolution. It says:

Show the marveling multitudes
Americans, British, all your allied brothers
How strong you are
How great you are
How your young tree of new unity
Planted twenty-five years ago
Bears today the golden fruit of victory!

http://www.aim.org/aim-report/obamas-red-mentor-praised-red-army/

166 posted on 04/11/2010 2:27:52 AM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Drew68
Wow, for not being interested, you sure have lots of details. “The basement of his church”, is that suppose to be an insult?

They are going to have a large screen set up outside so that everyone can see it live. And some International Press will be covering it as well.

And even if he only has a few supporters holding signs as they march around Columbia University during their graduation ceremonies, don't you think people will notice? And isn't that what this is about? If Manning has evidence that Obam never attended Columbia, then it's important to get the word out in every way possible.

You don't think parents who paid thousands of dollars to have their sons and daughters graduate from Columbia University are going to ignore Manning, who will be providing detailed evidence that Columbia University is a sham? That Obam was able to waltz in and waltz out without doing any of the course work to obtain a bachelors degree, while their kids had to complete all the course work and maintain a certain gpa?

Why ridicule Manning? Let's see what evidence and eye witnesses he presents and then let Obam answer his accusations. Manning's most recent video states Obam might try to show up in Harlem, thinking his Star Power alone with shut down the trial. That if he shows up with some of his black preachers, Manning will back off. That's when Manning needs have Obam meet his friend Larry Sinclair face to face at Manning's church. LOL That would be must see tv right there. No Obam needs to address the evidence after the trial.

167 posted on 04/11/2010 5:10:17 AM PDT by howkn
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To: ETL

168 posted on 04/11/2010 5:16:04 AM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn

In 5 weeks, when Columbia is holding it's graduation ceremony, Manning's church will be holding the trial. Should be interesting.

169 posted on 04/11/2010 5:21:06 AM PDT by howkn
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To: howkn

This could be the beginning of the end of this nightmare.


170 posted on 04/11/2010 5:21:07 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: jersey117

If he lied on his Harvard law school application, that means he may have lied on his IL Bar application. Manning says something about crossing state lines.


171 posted on 04/11/2010 5:22:40 AM PDT by howkn
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To: Hostage

An executive order is not a law. A university is not part of the executive branch.


172 posted on 04/11/2010 5:51:16 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

Every federal grant, contract and agreement held by Columbia University, its faculty, its researchers and staff have a set of federal regulations that themselves are subject to executive orders that must be observed.

Executive orders by way of Federal regulations indeed control a large part of what universities, especially Ivy League institutions are engaged in.

For example, Bush’s EO to defund embryonic stem cell research applied to all administrative departments that oversaw federal grants. Columbia University would be subject indirectly to this EO unless private funding was obtained. and in such cases of private funding, the laboratories and any facilites, faculty and staff used would need to be separated from any federal funding.

In the case of Obama, there are two aspects, the private and the public, for Columbia University to respond to a request for records. For the private aspect, CU would deny release based on federal and state privacy laws. For the public aspect, CU will deny or receive denial based on EO.


173 posted on 04/11/2010 6:33:16 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: ETL

There is no ‘finally’ in my comments. I have always expressed my opinions as speculative, whereas you have jumped to conclusions which are not true in general and have no evidence that directly support your conclusion.

For example, a person’s belief in Marxism does not preclude the CIA from hiring such a person and in fact can attract the Agency to hire such a person for specific purposes.

But your statement that Obama’s pro-Soviet views would necessarily rule out his receiving a contract or employment with the Agency, or an organization funded by the Agency, is false in general.

If you had expressed your comment as speculative, then it could not be denied as possible. But you expressed it as fact, and that is why this thread responded to your comments, because it is not ‘fact’, it is mere speculation.


174 posted on 04/11/2010 6:44:51 AM PDT by Hostage
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To: Hostage

I’m sorry to learn all of that. I do believe that you are correct. This should not be the case. No President should be allowed to wage so much control over matters so important. I think a fresh new Amendment is in order.


175 posted on 04/11/2010 8:23:26 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: ETL

Didn’t catch your response until just now. Perhaps then there was another piece he wrote on “disarmament”? (in addition to the previously linked article he wrote for the campus newsmagazine Sundial: “Breaking the War Mentality”)


I believe that “The Sundial” newspaper article “Breaking the War Mentality” (which is on nuclear non-proliferation) is the only article that Barack Obama published in the Columbia University student newspaper.
The original article from March 10, 1983 can be read online:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/10978031/1983-article-by-Barack-Obama-Breaking-the-War-Mentality-in-Columbia-Universitys-Sundial-magazine


176 posted on 04/11/2010 11:06:16 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

Thanks. But I meant maybe he did write a thesis as an undergrad while at Columbia (in addition to the Sundial article), given that you said some colleges do require them even for undergrads.


177 posted on 04/11/2010 9:07:06 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

That’s what Manning will attempt to prove, that O didn’t attend Columbia as an undergraduate, so might be anything written in his name was ghost written.

Doesn’t prove O wrote it, and Manning says he has evidence that O never attended Columbia in the 80’s. That he basically got a free degree without doing any of the work.


178 posted on 04/12/2010 4:33:53 AM PDT by howkn
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