Skip to comments.Pastor Manning Columbia University
Posted on 04/10/2010 12:18:01 PM PDT by howkn
"Obama, as a 2nd Executive Order, I think on January the 21st or 22nd of 2009, signed an order which forbade any court or anyone else, to look at any records pertaining to him from kindergarten to the day he was sworn in, that you cannot, cannot re-look at, have the Freedom of Information Act implied, or anything else...if you want to know about Obama, his records are sealed permanently by his Executive Order signature." Manning
(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...
Not very transparent.
Obama has much to hide, hence the sealed records.
Obama’s life is a LIE.
Any Chance of Getting A Copy of That?
How strange. He wants to know everything about all of us.
Manning: “Now we have the opportunity to examine that he was not there, which will then demonstrate where he was at the time.”
Manning will have the Trial streamed outside on a big screen for those that want to watch it live outside the church as not everyone will fit in the church. He is also going to march around Columbia University for 7 days and on the 7th day, he will march 7 times.
The manchurian candidate, and the annointed of the cursed news media, and their Soros type benefactors.
YUP. If he’s innocent as a lamb, why all the cover-ups? We are being subjected to a massive fraud and the media just plays along.
A President cannot overturn the FOIA (an act of Congress) via an Executive Order.
Pardoning himself, so to speak.
Reverend Manning is either a stooge of the commie left or completely out of his mind. One of the things he is alleging is that Obama was hired by the Reagan administration as a CIA operative to spy on the Soviets! Nothing could be more ridiculous than that. So, while he raises many legitimate issues about Obama, he totally discredits himself and the anti-Obama movement with insanity such as this, at least in the minds of the many who don’t know much about who and what Obama is. It’ll be like telling people Obama is a communist followed by he is also from the planet Mars.
Of course not, but you don't have to overturn the act to exempt certain things from it. That's the responsibility of officials in the executive branch. For example, if certain information would reveal terrorist intelligence, but not rise to level of being classified, it could be exempted from FOIA.
I wish Manning well and am looking forward to hearing what he has discovered. Seems like there is some squirming going on.
I’ve been disappointed in Pastor Manning, because of his totally wacky side. I was hoping we had a strong ally against Obama, but at this point I don’t really pay attention to him.
He’s actually dangerous because he discredits the legitimate stuff we’ve been saying about Obama, at least in the minds of those who don’t much at all about him. And as we know, that’s damn near most people.
Yes you are correct, there are specific exemptions in the act but the President can only restrict information consistent with and persuant to these exemptions. I’m not sure a President’s personal history falls within any of these exemptions, but then I’m not sure this type of information is even obtainable under the FOIA in the first place.
Why is it ridiculous that the CIA would hire someone to interact with the Mujahadeen in Pakistan and Afghanistan during the Soviet occupation?
Why should Obama not be considered eligible for hiring in this capacity?
I remember very well how the agency was hiring on college campi during that time.
Until Obama gets there. That's right.
Because Obama comes, he didn't work hard the way you did, he didn't study hard the way you did.
Go back and read his book on “Dreams from my Father”, he'll tell you when he was in high school AND when he was in Occidental College that he was a pot smoking, fun loving party animal.
PARTTY HEARTTY was Obama.
Oh yeah, and he was a C student with a 2.3 grade average, and yet Columbia accepted him. Why?
And when they have been running around here telling everyone that they have the best and the brightest.
But yet they bring this low performing person called Barack Hussein “The Long Legged Mac Daddy” “Party Hearty” Obama, and they allow him to go thru the system where you had to pay some dues, you had to work hard, you had to write the papers, you had to pass the exams.
But Obama just waltzed in and waltzed out. Columbia University is an open door to expose Obama...
Obama, and we're going to demonstrate this by the time this trial is over, Obama has forever corrupted, Obama has brought a smirch on Columbia, a stain on Columbia that cannot be washed away.
By the time this trial is over and all the information is laid on the table, and the march and the shout has been done, Columbia University will be stained as a hypocritical felonious organization, sitting up on a hill, as if it's been doing a great job.
Obama has corrupted Columbia University 20 years after.”
Right. That’s why I don’t even bother with him, if I spend too much time thinking about Manning I start to wonder if he’s just an Obama plant.
And when he suggests things like Reagan hired Obama via the CIA, Manning as an Obama plant is the only scenario that seems to fit.
that the seeia continues to intimidate manning by sitting out in front of his church in marked vehs, and his website continues to get hacked shows that obam is paying attention. they want to know what evidence manning has and manning has already showed how they are trying to confuse the issue and take the subject off his columbia years.
We Ain’t Got No President,
What We Got Us Here is a Dictator!
Hope that Manning streams the trial live...for 7 days, that’s a lot of information
I think it’s more likely the “Columbia University Trial” is not what it appears to be on the surface.
Manning’s suggestion that Reagan hired Obama as a CIA operative is just plain nonsense.
The whole thing falls flat right there.
Not at all, the crux of the trial is that Obama never received a Legitimate bachelors degree from Columbia. And if he’s lying, that means he’s committed fraud. And if Manning has evidence which shows Obama is lying about having a degree from Columbia, then he should step down. That means he’s committed fraud and several legal documents since his Columbia days. Also, Columbia should be held responsible to covering Obama’s lies about attending the University.
Did Obama even walk and receive a diploma? Or is that picture shopped? On and on, but this is huge if Obama claimed to have gone to Columbia University and then never did.
Falls Flat , Yes.
But,at This Point, Would You Really Be Surprised?
A true Coup d' Etat!
You think these people would have us believe the Agency never hired anyone. I know from experience from college friends that got hired while still in college were given open doors that no one else could get opened.
It would not surprise me in the least that the Agency set certain candidates up in Ivy League positions that were not qualified because I have personally witnessed that to happen.
No, Manning does not appear to be a crackpot here. His allegations ‘jive’ with recent reports from U. of Chicago Law School that no one wanted Obama, that they were forced to take him in as a ‘scholar’, that he was never a professor there, that he was neither liked nor respected and was considered lazy.
I remember an article posted here, that said he never went to Colombia University, but to a much smaller but nearby Colombia College. Not even sure if it is affiliated with the University, and certainly much easier to get into.
Manning is over probably one of many targets that o-inc has tried to keep anyone from discussing. The trial’s testimony and evidence will be very interesting. Not sure if they thought about it, but they should consider streaming the trial live. That would be amazing to watch.
That 'someone' would never have been a pro-Soviet Union communist like Barack Obama.
Doesn’t matter. o states he is a graduate of Columbia University, and if he isn’t that means he’s been lying all these years. He’ll need to step down if it’s discovered that he lied and continues to lie about his education. Many people are released from jobs for lies on resumes.
Oh I am not saying it matters, I am saying it is a lie, the College and the University are NOT the same thing.
Also, he was never a professor, he was a lecturer at best.
Did that executive order forbid anyone to look at the executive order itself?
It sounds like Columbia gave O a free bachelor degree without any type of work involved which means it really isn't a official degree. If proven, it will show that Ob and Columbia University committed fraud and should have their ‘fully accredited’ status pulled so that student loan funds are no longer available to an illegitimate school.
From the Columbia University website...
"Obama attended Columbia College from 1981 to 1983"
"Columbia College is the oldest undergraduate college at Columbia University, situated on the university's main campus of Morningside Heights in the Borough of Manhattan in the City of New York."
The hunt for Obamas senior thesis began with a throwaway line in a newspaper article last October. The New York Times story, on Obamas early New York years, mentioned in passing that the presidential contender had majored in political science at Columbia and had spent his time writing his thesis on Soviet nuclear disarmament.
Journalists began hounding Columbia University for copies of the musty document. Conservative bloggers began wondering if the young Obama had written a no-nukes screed that he might come to regret. And David Bossie, the former congressional investigator and right-wing hit man, as one newspaper described him, took out classified newspaper ads in Columbia Universitys newspaper and the Chicago Tribune in March searching for the term paper.
Bossie came up dry, but said the effort was well worth it:
A thesis entitled Soviet Nuclear Disarmament, written at the height of The Cold War in 1983, might shed some light upon what Barack Obama thought about our most pressing foreign policy issue for 40-plus years (U.S.-Soviet Relations), he wrote in an e-mail to NBC News.
From the New York Times...
Obama's 1983 College Magazine Article
["Breaking the War Mentality"]
"In 1983, at the height of the cold war, Barack Obama, then a senior at Columbia University, wrote in a campus newsmagazine about the vision of "a nuclear free world." The article in the Sundial profiled two campus groups: Arms Race Alternatives and Students Against Militarism."
Why Wont Obama Talk About Columbia?
The years he wont discuss may explain the Ayers tie he keeps lying about:
IPSs [Institute For Policy Studies] Washington, DC headquarters quickly became a resource center for national reporters and a place for KGB agents from the nearby Soviet embassy to convene and strategize. Cora Weiss headed one of the IPS's most successful forays -- into Riverside Church in Manhattan. She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of "peace." In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations. During her decade-long tenure at Riverside, which became home to the National Council of Churches, Weiss regularly received Russian KGB agents, Sandinista friends, and Cuban intelligence agents. Weiss became infamous for her role in the psychological warfare conducted against U.S. prisoners of war held in the infamous "Hanoi Hilton" during the Vietnam War.
The Liberation News Service, which is a news source for hundreds of "alternative" publications nationwide (with antiwar, Marxist-oriented perspectives), was founded in 1967 with IPS assistance."
[lots more at link...]
From the website of Riverside Church...
The Riverside Church
490 Riverside Drive
New York, New York 10027
The Riverside Church is located on Manhattans Upper West Side near Columbia University.
From the Columbia University website...
"Obama attended Columbia College from 1981 to 1983"
"She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of 'peace.'
In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations."
Sounds like Manning has evidence that Obama never went to Columbia U in any way, shape or form. Should be interesting.
Communist Led Peace Movement to Target US Military Budget
Guided by the Communist Party USA, the U.S. peace movement is entering a new phase.
The struggles against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will be de-emphasized, while focus will shift to a broad based campaign to cut U.S. military spending.
The Communists plan to exploit public concern over economic problems, to pressure the Obama administration to hugely cut back on defense spending, weapons systems and overseas commitments.
"[Communist Party USA vice chair, Judith] LeBlanc signals that the peace movements new direction will begin with a major campaign. Significantly May 1 [2010!], will be the kickoff date and New Yorks far left Riverside Church will be the founding venue."
"There will be people from every continent here to participate in the non-governmental organization gatherings that will be going on, with an international conference happening at Riverside Church from April 30 to May 1 [communist "May Day"], and then marching on May 2."
--Judith LeBlanc, vice-chair Communist Party USA, 'national field organizer for Peace Action, the countrys largest grassroots peace organization with 100,000 members across the country', also co-founder of "United for Peace and Justice"
Dr. John C. Drew, a grant writing consultant in Laguna Niguel, Calif., tells Newsmax he met Obama in 1980 when Obama was a sophomore at Occidental College in Los Angeles. Drew had just graduated from Occidental and was attending graduate school at Cornell University.
During Christmas break, Drew says he was at Grauman-Boss home in Palo Alto when Obama came over with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, his roommate from Pakistan.
Barack [Obama] and Hasan showed up at the house in a BMW, and then we went to a restaurant together, Drew says. We had a nice meal, and then we came back to the house and smoked cigarettes and drank and argued politics.
For the next several hours, they discussed Marxism.
He [Obama] was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth, says Drew, who says he himself was then a Marxist.
The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others, Drew says. That this was the secret of their wealth, that they werent paying others enough for their work, and they were using and taking advantage of other people. He was convinced that a revolution would take place, and it would be a good thing.
Drew concluded that Obama thought of himself as part of an intelligent, radical vanguard that was leading the way towards this revolution and towards this new society. ..."
Referring to Obamas quote from Dreams of My Father that he associated with Marxist professors, Drew says, What hes not saying is that he was in 100 percent total agreement with those Marxist professors. When you understand that, Obamas later associations and policies make more sense, including why he was taken in by Rev. Wrights ideology.
1. U.S. acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war.
2. U.S. willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war.
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament [by] the United States would be a demonstration of moral strength.
'Goals' 4-45 can be found here or at many other sites through a web search for "45 goals":
That is not what Manning claimed. Manning claimed Obama was hired by the Agency to work the threatre in Pakistan and Afghanistan during the time of the Soviet occupation.
At the time Obama was not known as pro-Soviet. He was likely known as someone that could read the Koran from his education in Indonesia and who knew Muslim customs.
So Manning is not a crackpot here. You OTOH have jumped to conclusions and shown yourself to be easy to manipulate, or you want to disrupt the thread.
Manning has a good case against Columbia, that they allowed Obama to be admitted even though he was not qualified. And we will see if Manning has any evidence that Obama was admitted to Columbia because of the Agency opening a door for him there, which is what they do routinely for ‘assets’ under development.
So Manning is expected to link the anomalous admission of Obama by Columbia to his being an ‘asset’ for the Agency; and yes again, such things happen routinely.
If Manning has proof from those that worked at Columbia or attended and knew of Obama, knew of his Agency sponsorship, then it’s not such a big deal. Because hundreds of students are financed by the Agency and associated organizations such as the Rand Corporation.
In fact, Obama has all the makings of an Agency developed asset. Whether the Agency had him on the roster or not, Manning may provide evidence that they did. Whether he continued to be sponsored by the Agency, if he ever was, is also unknown. The recent complaints of the UChicago law professors seem plausible that it could be Agency but could just as well be Chicago machine strongarming.
And BTW, the Agency does hire Pro-Soviet agents to serve as double agents and infiltrators. Sometimes such people are true believers, but the Agency doesn’t care because such people are under watch and they serve a purpose.
Communists, Leftists and even Terrorists can get into the outer layers of the Agency easily because like the saying goes, “Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer”. The Agency has many many rings of security, and they will take anybody who suits their purposes and put them into a compartment where they can be monitored.
If that’s the case, Ob needs to quit lying that he completed the necessary courses to receive a legitimate bachelors degree. Or like Manning said, was able to waltz in and waltz out without having to do any work.
And would Obama have been elected Pres if people had known he had lied about his undergraduate degree? If it’s true that he lied about his undergraduate degree, no matter the reasons, it shows that he committed fraud, as did the University. There is no way he would have won the Presidency if everyone knew he didn’t complete any of the classes necessary to obtain a bachelor’s degree, if that’s the case.
He never would have won, if everyone knew he obtained a bachelors degree as a freebie. Everyone who’s worked hard and paid lots of money and still paying lots of money for the education, would say, hey why was he treated special? Why didn’t he have to do any of the work or pay any of the money? And at the very least, if it is true, at least be upfront about it and see if you can win with everyone knowing the truth about your lack of education. Instead of posing like you passed all the tests, if that is indeed what happened.
He wouldn’t have won if everyone knew he was given a free degree without even attending classes, if that’s the case which Manning sounds like he is going to prove on May 14.