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Army to court martial 'birther' officer
msnbc ^ | April 13, 2010 | Mark Murray

Posted on 04/13/2010 1:39:03 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

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To: Albertafriend

Thanks; & thanks for video. I am going to do more on her (which I thought I had done before; I have to find my research).

She (and her husband) is one of those prime examples of communism/marxism intersecting with the globalist crowd.

She was also a Vietnam War activist.


521 posted on 04/15/2010 7:38:41 PM PDT by thouworm
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To: Albertafriend
many thanks, the video won't download for me, but the FrontPageMagazine article is fascinating! excerpt:

In 1983, Weiss was a delegate to an IPS sponsored US-USSR confab for disarmament. Delegates included members of the Riverside Church, which is allied with the National Council of Churches (NCC) and World Council of Churches (WCC).

The anti-Americanism of Riverside, the NCC and the WCC is well known. All three organizations were advocates for the North Vietnamese. All three organizations were advocates for Marxists revolutions in Africa. (Indeed, the WCC contributed to Robert Mugabe’s Marxist army.) All three organizations were advocates for the Marxist revolutions in Central America in the 1980’s. All three protested the deployment of Pershing missiles in Europe. All three condemned the Gulf War. All three condemned US military action against the Taliban.

Weiss is definitely plugged in to the good old comrade’s network. For example, the IPS Board of Directors contains such liberal luminaries as Harry Belafonte, Time magazine journalist Barbara Ehrenreich, and editor of The Nation magazine Katrina vanden Heuvel (who was formerly the director of the IPS’s Transnational Institute).

Each of these people are well known for their unrepentant leftwing commitments. Ehrenreich is the Vice–Chair of the Democratic Socialists of America. vanden Heuvel, is a staunch apologist for socialism. Belafonte was a founding member of the Hollywood chapter of SANE, a precursor of PAN. In December 2000, he received an honorary degree from Cuba's Higher Arts Institute. Radio Havana reported that Belafonte said Cuba has always been an artistic haven for people who struggle for the liberation of humanity...

And THIS is the woman we are expected to rely upon to tell us when Obama Senior arrived in the US?

522 posted on 04/15/2010 7:53:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks; thouworm

I thought you would be interested in who this woman is. There is a lot of information about her on the web. I wouldn’t be surprised if her “peace” organization and connections with NCC and WCC and that church which I think is is New York wasn’t one of the sources, if not the only one, of information for 0’s crummy little article on nuclear disarmament back in his alleged Columbia days. And it’s been on his mind for the past 20 something years right up to the present. How proud she must be of her protege’s alleged offspring!


523 posted on 04/15/2010 10:26:47 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: Albertafriend; Fred Nerks; thouworm

Ah-Ha! Doing some research on her wonderful communist father, Samuel Rubin, look what I found in an article about his foundation which she and her husband have run for decades.

“In the 1980s, Weiss was the director of the Disarmament Program at New York’s Riverside Church. This program was a leader in supporting the Soviet-inspired nuclear freeze movement. As Riverside’s director, Weiss was one of the organizers of a 1982 disarmament rally — the largest ever held — in New York City. The event was organized by a coalition of Communist and radical groups.”

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderprofile.asp?fndid=5348&category=79

Now it seems to me that sometime in the past two years I read and even saw it on a map that Riverside is right in the vicinity of Columbia University. And 1982—that rings a bell too. Wasn’t that just about the time a young black man decided he had to cross the continent to allgedly go to a different university than the one he had been enjoying so much in LA? So I think my guess at the guiding source for his interest in disamament and ‘peace’ is a really good one.

And look at the list of organizations this foundation is providing funds to! I wonder if dear red Granny Cora or other members of her family have been to visit or phoned/texted in some encouragement or shipped some ‘research materials’ to the WH over the last year or so. And think how much money they could funnel into campaign coffers personally or through some of those other helpful organizations.


524 posted on 04/15/2010 11:02:29 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: Albertafriend; Fred Nerks; thouworm

Here is one more that I found. It is almost inconceivable the amount of evil this family has unleashed on the United States and the world.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=wkY2-U7JW3wC&pg=PA181&lpg=PA181&dq=samuel+rubin+foundation&source=bl&ots=Rsq833Eoq6&sig=aQcNXQYdh8v-DQWjA8se2l_-oZg&hl=en&ei=KP7HS6XQFZPUsQO43YSYCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CAgQ6AEwATgU#v=onepage&q=samuel%20rubin%20foundation&f=false

It’s a really long section of this book. I read enough of it to give me nightmares which I am now going to commense in the next few minutes.


525 posted on 04/16/2010 12:19:55 AM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: Albertafriend; thouworm
Cora Weiss From KeyWiki

Cora WeissCora Weiss is the wife of New York Lawyer, Peter Weiss, founder of the Institute for Policy Studies and daughter of Samuel Rubin, a funder of many left-wing organizations. Weiss was a director of the Samuel Rubin Foundation from its inception. She was also instrumental in the funding decision to create the Institute for Policy Studies. She gained notoriety as a leader of the Vietnam War era anti-American coalitions who traveled to Paris and Hanoi for repeated meetings with communist leaders.

Contents [hide] 1 Hard Times Conference 2 Feminists for Peace and Barack Obama 3 Affiliations 4 References

Hard Times Conference In 1976 Cora Weiss for Friendshipment and Women Strike for Peace attended the Weather Underground and Prairie Fire Organizing Committee organized Hard Times Conference Jan 30 - Feb 1 at the University of Chicago.[1]

Feminists for Peace and Barack Obama In early 2008 Cora Weiss, an U.N. Representative, International Peace Bureau signed a petition circulated by Feminists for Peace and Barack Obama[2].

In the coming elections, it is important to remember that war and peace are as much \"women\'s issues\" as are health, the environment, and the achievement of educational and occupational equality. Because we believe that all of these concerns are not only fundamental but closely intertwined, this Tuesday we will be casting our vote for Senator Barack Obama as the Democratic nominee for President of the United States. Affiliations

Cora Weiss, formerly active with the Emma Lazarus Clubs and Women Strike for Peace, played a leadership role in the CPUSA-controlled anti-Vietnam coalitions New Mobilization Committee, People's Coalition for Peace and Justice which collaborated closely with the WPC. She received considerable media attention for her numerous meetings with Vietnamese Communist officials in Paris and Hanoi and for her controversial role in the Committee of Liaison and in a project to provide material aid to Hanoi, the Friendshipment/Bach Mai Hospital Fund.

She and her husband, Peter Weiss, president of the IPS board, are officers of the Samuel Rubin Foundation, which provides the major financial support to IPSITNI, and of the Fund for Tomorrow, a smaller foundation which is apparently wholly funded by the Rubin foundation, which supports many activist groups spun-off by IPS including WISE.[3]

KeyWiki

526 posted on 04/16/2010 2:46:45 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: keats5

I just checked your link to usconstitution.net and disagree. The US Code does state that a NATIVE born citizen can be a NATIVE BORN CITIZEN with only one parent if the child is born within the US, but their webpage is incorrect where it declares that such a person can be President of the US when only one parent is a citizen.

This is exactly what all of these lawsuits against Mr. Soetoro are about...Mr. Soetoro’s birth father was a foreigner hence, Mr. Soetoro is NOT a natural born citizen and CANNOT be a US Presdent.


527 posted on 04/16/2010 8:04:11 AM PDT by ednoonan7
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To: Sola Veritas

No thanks....I would rather wait until 2012 and vote him out than to have judges that ammend the constitution from the bench.... :-) I’m like you...time to write serious letters to Senators to NOT allow left of center judges be appointed by POTUS Obama.

You know....on a side note...I have always thought that whenever the SCOTUS produces a “landmark” decision that fundamentally changes how the constitution is viewed (in essence ammending it), that the decision should not be allowed to stand until ratified by 3/4 of the states like any ammendment must be. That would be a nice check and balance on “living document” advocates sitting on the bench. Of course that would really limit the power of the SCOTUS which can be a two edged sword.


I think you’ve hit on the judicial system’s real answer to all the Obama eligibility lawsuits: the electorate can vote him out in 2012.
The Supreme Court’s first landmark decision was Marbury v Madison in which Chief Justice John Marshall “invented” the concept of judicial review which is nowhere in the Constitution.
Your suggestion destroys the concept of separation of powers by giving state legislatures veto power over decisions of the Court; and who gets to decide what is “landmark” or not?
There is no way 3/4ths of the states would agree to overturn Roe v Wade for example, but 5 conservative Justices just might.


528 posted on 04/16/2010 10:32:26 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: Sola Veritas

Aren’t federal grand juries limited in there scope? Or can any federal grand jury bring up this issue and start the ball rolling? Could an uncooperative judge of prosecutor derail any such attempt? If so...so much for that.


No, federal Grand Juries have no special limitations of their scope of operations and who says it would have to be a federal grand jury? Remember how wide ranging the Whitewater investigation went?
The problem with a federal grand jury at this point is that almost all the US Attorneys who would convene such an investigation are now Obama appointees and work for Obama’s Attorney General, Eric Holder.
I would like to see a state grand jury in Hawaii under the auspices of the Republican Attorney General of that state, Mark L. Bennett OR a federal Grand Jury investigation conducted by US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald who is not an Obama appointee and who brought down Rod Blagojevich in Illinois.
Obama posted what might be a forged or fraudulent birth certificate on the internet that document was available in every jurisdiction and he possibly used that same document to get on the ballot in all 50 states plus the District of Columbia. An indictment in any jurisdiction could lead to an impeachment. Bill Clinton was not impeached for a federal offense.


529 posted on 04/16/2010 10:47:24 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777; All

“Your suggestion destroys the concept of separation of powers by giving state legislatures veto power over decisions of the Court; and who gets to decide what is “landmark” or not?
There is no way 3/4ths of the states would agree to overturn Roe v Wade for example, but 5 conservative Justices just might.”

When I wrote my diatribe, I immediately thought of the problem of how does one define “Landmark”, and hosestly don’t have a ready response.

I regards to RoeVWade...if what I proposed was in effect when the RoeVWade decision came down...it would NEVER have been ratified by 3/4 of the states at that time. Obviously, I’m not proposing that the power be made retroactive. And honestly, I’m just talking....I understand such veto power by states could be dangerous and a two edged sword. It just troubles me that the court has evolved into a de facto constitutional ammender based upon some wacky rulings....and there was no rapid mechanism to shut them down. Oh well, as long as humans run things...there will be flaws in any system.


530 posted on 04/16/2010 10:47:35 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

When I wrote my diatribe, I immediately thought of the problem of how does one define “Landmark”, and hosestly don’t have a ready response.

I regards to RoeVWade...if what I proposed was in effect when the RoeVWade decision came down...it would NEVER have been ratified by 3/4 of the states at that time. Obviously, I’m not proposing that the power be made retroactive. And honestly, I’m just talking....I understand such veto power by states could be dangerous and a two edged sword. It just troubles me that the court has evolved into a de facto constitutional ammender based upon some wacky rulings....and there was no rapid mechanism to shut them down. Oh well, as long as humans run things...there will be flaws in any system.


At this moment in time, Democrats hold a significant majority in control of state legislatures.That will change however, it always does.

My point is that requiring 3/4ths of states to ratify Supreme Court decisions goes both ways: there are enough traditionally liberal states to block any Supreme Court decisions that move the nation to the right and there are enough traditionally conservative states to block any decisions that would move the nation to the left, hence stalemates in the middle.
I like our system the way the Founders envisioned it despite its obvious imperfections. If we need changes, let’s use those 3/4ths votes in Congress and in the state legislatures to actually amend the Constitution and let the judiciary be stay separate from overt political influence.


531 posted on 04/16/2010 11:44:00 AM PDT by jamese777
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Has anyone heard anything about this? Is it just another wild, unsubstantiated brain-fart or are our parayers finally being answered? I’ve seen stuff like this before and it turned out to be crap so I’m not going to hold my breath... al least not for very long. Ssorry no link, I got it in an e-mail.

VERY QUIETLY OBAMA’S CITIZENSHIP CASE REACHES THE SUPREME COURT

AP - WASHINGTON D.C. -
In a move certain to fuel the debate over Obama’s qualifications for the presidency, the group “Americans for Freedom of Information” has Released copies of President Obama’s college transcripts from Occidental College . Released today, the transcript school indicates that Obama, under the name Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate. The transcript was released by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by the group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript shows that Obama (Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Foundation Scholarship program. To qualify, for the scholarship, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
This document would seem to provide the smoking gun that many of Obama’s detractors have been seeking. Along with the evidence that he was first born in Kenya and there is no record of him ever applying for US citizenship, this is looking pretty grim. The news has created a firestorm at the White House as the release casts increasing doubt about Obama’s legitimacy and qualification to serve as President article titled, “Obama Eligibility Questioned,” leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K. In a related matter, under growing pressure from several groups, Justice Antonin Scalia announced that the Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to hear arguments concerning Obama’s legal eligibility to serve as President in a case brought by Leo Donofrio of New Jersey . This lawsuit claims Obama’s dual citizenship disqualified him from serving as president. Donofrio’s case is just one of 18 suits brought by citizens demanding proof of Obama’s citizenship or qualification to serve as president.

Gary Kreep of the United States Justice Foundation has released the results of their investigation of Obama’s campaign spending. This study estimates that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds in the past year with eleven law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Mr. Kreep indicated that the investigation is still ongoing but that the final report will be provided to the U..S. Attorney general, Eric Holder. Mr. Holder has refused to comment on the matter...


532 posted on 04/16/2010 1:29:44 PM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: ednoonan7

I agree that link was inconclusive at best. It had an asterisk after the “born in the US” language indicating at least one exception if the child was born to an ambassador of another country. It did not mention other exceptions, nor did it say the ambassador exception was exclusive of other exceptions, such as a child born to a US citizen and a British citizen.

There are serious problems with the president of the US being the son of a British citizen. I agree that the issue centers around Obama’s father’s British citizenship, even if Obama was born in Hawaii. We’re seeing the problem in action; Obama simply does not seem to put America before other nations.

As I said before on this thread. I’m not throwing out that link as something I agree with 100%. I was just sharing some information on the topic I found after a cursory Google search. To me, it did not suffice to fully answer the Obama issue.

I was actually trying to find a source which definitively said that a “natural born citizen” is one born on US soil to two US citizens. I’ve seen that inferred in founding documents, but I am seeking a definitive source which our present courts have accepted as precedent. (And no, I am not saying I’m thrilled with our current system of case law, but that is the reality today in 2010, unfortunately. )


533 posted on 04/16/2010 4:46:01 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: jamese777; All

“I like our system the way the Founders envisioned it despite its obvious imperfections.”

I concurr....however I don’t think the founders envisioned many judges as they are today. They are already “political.” Many of our SCOTUS judges lack a fundamental respect for honoring the original intent of the document and its ammendment. They have often taken it upon themselves to “ammend” the constitution by their rulings. And make no mistake....when a ruling suddenly creates a “right” or takes away a “right” not previously seen by those before us....then they have ammended the constitution. When the legislative body attempts to change the constitution, they much get 2/3 vote in both houses and then 3/4 of the States must ratify. This is a pretty good check on legislative caprice. However, there is NONE on judical caprice. I don’t think the founders intended that at all.

Whatever, despite its flaws I do agree that it is better to leave it as it is.


534 posted on 04/16/2010 8:45:45 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: oldfart
“leading some to speculate that the story may overshadow economic issues on Obama’s first official visit to the U.K.”

This is the 2009 April Fool's story. It always seems to have the line about Obama’s first visit to the UK which was in early 2009.

535 posted on 04/17/2010 8:43:57 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

Thanks... I guess. I couldn’t help hoping it was for real but I’ve seen so many false stories pop up that I have to be pretty cautious.


536 posted on 04/17/2010 10:18:10 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: Fred Nerks; thouworm; All

Today I have spent more time than I should looking into Frank Montero who is mentioned in the Cora Weiss article above. I’ve found quite a lot but in my searching I came across this:

http://hooverinstitutionla.blogspot.com/2010_02_01_archive.html

This article contains a letter from 0 Sr. dated May 29, 1962 to Tom Mboya. It is part of a collection of papers from a William X. Scheinman who was the president of the African-American Students’ Foundation(the air-lift sponsors) and also became a close friend of Mboya. The letter describes how 0’s education in America has progressed. He says he has completed his Bachelor’s Degree and his Master’s Degree and has obtained the highest honors awarded in U.S. universities. This letter’s date is less than 1 year after 0 Jr.’s birth and even before the date we have used for his departure from Hawaii—June 1962. How in the world is this possible? At this point in time he hasn’t even been in U.S. for 3 full school years.


537 posted on 04/17/2010 1:30:17 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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To: Albertafriend

He lied. Or he got here earlier. Or he was a genius who didn’t drink and party.


538 posted on 04/17/2010 1:45:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: Fred Nerks
The Samuel Rubin Foundation states that its general purpose is "to carry on the vision of its founder, Samuel Rubin, whose life was dedicated to the pursuit of peace and justice and the search for an equitable reallocation of the world's resources." The Foundation bears the stamp of Rubin’s life experience. Born in 1901 in Bialystok (which was then in Czarist Russia, now in Poland), Rubin immigrated to America with his parents when he was a young boy. The family settled in a poor Jewish neighborhood in Brooklyn, New York, where Rubin's parents opened a small "dry goods" store.

As a young man, he joined the Communist Party. So committed was he to his political cause, that he named his son Reed in honor of U.S. Communist John Reed, who organized the Communist Labor Party and wrote Ten Days That Shook The World and was ultimately honored by the Soviets with burial in the wall of the Kremlin.

Rubin claimed to be appalled by the "plunder, hunger, and devastation" which he considered to be the bitter fruits of Western capitalism. Notwithstanding his love of socialism, however, he used his considerable business acumen to earn a vast fortune. In 1937 he founded Faberge Perfumes, developing it from a small specialty shop into a major cosmetics firm. In 1959 he used his personal wealth to establish the Samuel Rubin Foundation. Four years later, Rubin sold Faberge for $25 million and directed a portion of those proceeds to his Foundation. He died on December 21, 1978.

In 1963 the Samuel Rubin Foundation created the Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), which lays claim to the title of "the nation's oldest multi-issue progressive think tank." Samuel Rubin's daughter, Cora Weiss, was a director of the Rubin Foundation from its inception, and was instrumental in the funding decision to create IPS. Today she is the Foundation's President. Her husband, Peter Weiss, was the first IPS board chairman and is currently the Rubin Foundation's Treasurer.

Cora Weiss became known for her role in the psychological warfare conducted against U.S. prisoners of war held in the infamous "Hanoi Hilton" during the Vietnam War. At the time, Weiss was a leader of the group "Women Strike for Peace," which enjoyed the strong support of the Communist Party. She attempted to coerce the relatives of American prisoners-of-war to make pro-Communist propaganda by promising them, in exchange, contact with their loved ones in Hanoi. None of the families accepted the arrangement.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/funderprofile.asp?fndid=5348&category=79
539 posted on 04/17/2010 1:53:15 PM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: Albertafriend; Fred Nerks; thouworm; All

Here is the text from 0 Sr.’s letter:

As you know I have been able to finish my B.A.(hon.)degree and done my M.A. within three years only as contrasted to the normal four years for a B.A. and one to two years for M.A. I have therefore been able to cut on at least two years for my B.A. and Master’s. Further during this period I have been able to get the highest academic honours that anyone can get in America and as for the University of Hawaii I was the only foreign student to get. I have been awarded the Phi Beta Kappa Honours Award, the Phi Kappa Phi Honours Award, the Omnicrom Delta Kappa Phi Honours Award all for high attainment in scholarship and leadership. These are the highest honours that anyone can get in the U.S.A. for high academic attainments.

This letter is impossible to fit with the established/alleged 0 Sr. timeline.


540 posted on 04/17/2010 1:59:09 PM PDT by Albertafriend
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