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GUNSHOTS ON THE POLISH PRESIDENT'S PLANE CRASHSITE (VIDEO!)
YouTube ^ | April 12, 2010

Posted on 04/13/2010 1:54:16 PM PDT by lizol

An amateur video - looks like the author appeared at the crash site before the rescuers and security service.

Take a look especially at 57 sec., and later. I can hear several gunhots, pretty clearly.



WTF?????!!!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkEmHSIVDwE&feature=player_embedded


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: conspiracytheory; kaczynski; poland
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1 posted on 04/13/2010 1:54:17 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol
RON BROWN II!

RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

2 posted on 04/13/2010 1:55:00 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (FYBO: Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: lizol

And if one keeps in mind, that the first news on TV, on Saturday morning reported, that 3 persons survived the crash?

And then it turned out, that no one survived.

And 3 or more gunshots on the crashsite?

Damn...


3 posted on 04/13/2010 1:56:35 PM PDT by lizol
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

btt


4 posted on 04/13/2010 1:56:46 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: lizol

I’m not sure if it’s gunshots, but it didn’t look that foggy where the crash site is. Hmm


5 posted on 04/13/2010 1:57:11 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I will not be silenced. I WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
Eastern European ping list


FRmail me to be added or removed from this Eastern European ping list

6 posted on 04/13/2010 1:57:15 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Find someone who speaks whatever language that is to translate for you. It’s definitely gun shots, I think.


7 posted on 04/13/2010 1:57:28 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: lizol

Sounds like gunshots, but could have been a number of explanations, such as ammunition from dead Polish security personnel exploding in the heat.


8 posted on 04/13/2010 1:57:57 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: lizol

Not surprising. Could also be some of the aircrafts security detachments ammo cooking off in the flames of the debris.


9 posted on 04/13/2010 1:58:20 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: lizol

Very interesting. Could be small explosions from the fire.

Rounds cooking off?


10 posted on 04/13/2010 1:58:30 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: lizol

From the photos I’ve seen of the crash site, I think it is highly unlikely there were any survivors.


11 posted on 04/13/2010 1:59:13 PM PDT by blau993 (Fight Gerbil Swarming)
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To: lizol

Good God.


12 posted on 04/13/2010 2:00:42 PM PDT by Carley (Are you better off than you were four trillion dollars ago?)
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To: tiredoflaundry
but it didn’t look that foggy where the crash site is.

The fires would tend to clear the fog at ground level to a good degree. Hard to say what conditions were like at the time of impact.

13 posted on 04/13/2010 2:01:09 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: littleharbour

Great minds ...


14 posted on 04/13/2010 2:01:16 PM PDT by Mr. Jazzy ("I AM JIM THOMPSON and moderates make me PUKE!!!")
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To: lizol

I’d wager it’s trees popping in the fire.


15 posted on 04/13/2010 2:01:30 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: basil

As to my knowledge of Russian - the voices in the background shout “Idi otsyuda!”, which means - “Go away”.

And the guy who’s filming is saying “Ni huya syebe” which is a vulgar expression, something like “Fu***g hell”, or something like that.


16 posted on 04/13/2010 2:03:48 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

It happens when ammo gets hot....


17 posted on 04/13/2010 2:04:15 PM PDT by devane617 (VOTE THEM OUT! ALL OF THEM!)
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To: lizol
I thought I heard this:

Это лицо, продвигается

18 posted on 04/13/2010 2:04:23 PM PDT by Plutarch (http://translation.babylon.com/Russian/to-English/)
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To: lizol

bttt


19 posted on 04/13/2010 2:04:47 PM PDT by Guenevere (....)
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To: lizol

It could be something else. I would look carefully at the autopsies.


20 posted on 04/13/2010 2:04:54 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Damnant quod non intellegunt.)
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To: blau993

Where is the blinding fog?


21 posted on 04/13/2010 2:05:13 PM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Really, I never knew that. Thxs.


22 posted on 04/13/2010 2:08:15 PM PDT by tiredoflaundry (I will not be silenced. I WILL REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER)
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To: Taffini

Doesn’t take much fire to clear fog locally.


23 posted on 04/13/2010 2:09:26 PM PDT by muawiyah ("Git Out The Way")
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To: rbosque

Definitely sounded like pistol shots. That wasn’t ammunition cooking off, the sound was different. What caught my attention is after the shots, the spectator in front of the camera man started moving away... “I didn’t see nuthin” kind of shuffling away.


24 posted on 04/13/2010 2:09:44 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: Ulysse; Protect the Bill of Rights; proudofthesouth; reaganaut; yellcam; VampireStateNY; Cronos; ...

ping


25 posted on 04/13/2010 2:10:00 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

Shooting survivors? Dead men tell no tales.


26 posted on 04/13/2010 2:11:26 PM PDT by FrdmLvr ( 0bama: Our first AINO president)
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To: basil

The voice in Russian says what basically can be translated as WTF.


27 posted on 04/13/2010 2:11:37 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: BCR #226; lizol
Sounded like pistol shots to me too, but maybe they were just warning the other people away to preserve the evidence at the crash site? That would make sense if the comments that lizol posted in #16 are correct:

As to my knowledge of Russian - the voices in the background shout “Idi otsyuda!”, which means - “Go away”. And the guy who’s filming is saying “Ni huya syebe” which is a vulgar expression, something like “Fu***g hell”, or something like that.

28 posted on 04/13/2010 2:14:26 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: lizol

Can someone please translate the Russian?


29 posted on 04/13/2010 2:16:15 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (http://www.teapartyslogans.com/cgi-bin/web/index.cgi)
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To: BCR #226

Could be but the shooter would have to be there waiting for the plane to crash. Besides, the autopsies would reveal what happened.


30 posted on 04/13/2010 2:16:23 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Damnant quod non intellegunt.)
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To: lizol

Those sounds could have been various compressed air containers going off such as fire bottles, hydraulic accumulators etc.


31 posted on 04/13/2010 2:16:48 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: rbosque

6 bodies are still missing


32 posted on 04/13/2010 2:18:26 PM PDT by lizol
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To: lizol

bkmk


33 posted on 04/13/2010 2:18:54 PM PDT by novemberslady
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To: muawiyah

Didn’t know that.


34 posted on 04/13/2010 2:19:43 PM PDT by Taffini ( Mr. Pippen and Mr. Waffles do not approve and neither do I)
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To: lizol

It could have been ammunition from a security personnel’s firearms going off. The old person near the end didn’t seem particularly concerned.


35 posted on 04/13/2010 2:20:15 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: lizol

Really? That only ads fuel to the fire.


36 posted on 04/13/2010 2:20:27 PM PDT by rbosque (11 year Freeper! Damnant quod non intellegunt.)
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To: ravingnutter
Recording is indeed strange.
First - no voices, camera approaching wrackage. Then 1 shot. Voice (presumably of a cameraman) - WTF.
Then shortly a voice in the background ordering to attack (?!) 2 more shots.
Another WTF from a cameraman as he starts to move away.
One more shot and the voice in the background ordering to withdraw.
37 posted on 04/13/2010 2:23:16 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: basil

Russian gunshots sound different that Polish gunshots?


38 posted on 04/13/2010 2:24:22 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: r9etb

Joy shots from Putin


39 posted on 04/13/2010 2:25:45 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (There once was a dream called, "Hippy Beat Down." The mere whisper of if caused cops to cry.")
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To: lizol

Thank you! At least that puts some perspective to the video.


40 posted on 04/13/2010 2:26:34 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: lizol

WTH? Seriously? 6 bodies are missing? Now that’s odd.

Sounds like gunshots. I guess there can be a number of explanations but it’s certainly strange. Eerie.


41 posted on 04/13/2010 2:26:36 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: lizol
Right after the second shot is the sound of a group of men .. sounds like three .. laughing.

Waayyy out of place for the scene.

42 posted on 04/13/2010 2:27:17 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ravingnutter

My Russian is a bit rusty but that is what I thought was being said as well.

As for the response time... I can’t comment on that. It totally depends on a lot of factors that we simply don’t have the information for.


43 posted on 04/13/2010 2:27:55 PM PDT by BCR #226 (07/02 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: alecqss

My 42


44 posted on 04/13/2010 2:28:15 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I have no idea what your comment is supposed to mean. Did someone mention that gun shots sound differently? Certainly not I.


45 posted on 04/13/2010 2:29:28 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: devane617
It happens when ammo gets hot....

You would think that the rounds would tend to go off rather quickly.

Four rounds, going off at distinct, even intervals?

46 posted on 04/13/2010 2:32:59 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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To: knarf

Most of a concern for me - the voice that orders after the shots were fired. In Russian it is: Все назад! Уходим! Literally - “Everyone - go back! Leave the place!”. It’s an order to withdrow.


47 posted on 04/13/2010 2:33:37 PM PDT by alecqss
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To: Mr. Jazzy

I agree.


48 posted on 04/13/2010 2:34:13 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Plutarch
Это лицо, продвигается Это лицо, продвигается

According to Google Translation:

"This person is moving ."

49 posted on 04/13/2010 2:35:41 PM PDT by giotto
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To: alecqss

If they were truly rounds just cooking off, or some other items exploding, then an order to WITHDRAW would make the most sense.


50 posted on 04/13/2010 2:36:27 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The Last Boy Scout)
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