Please ditch your skin-color generalities, Red. The rest of you stuff sticks, but color of skin does not individually make us collectivist, or suburban, or capitalist.
“The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a ‘warm body’ democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction. It depends solely on the wisdom and self-restraint of citizens… which is opposed by the folly and lack of self-restraint of other citizens. What is supposed to happen in a democracy is that each sovereign citizen will always vote in the public interest for the safety and welfare of all. But what does happen is that he votes his own self-interest as he sees it… which for the majority translates as ‘Bread and Circuses.’
‘Bread and Circuses’ is the cancer of democracy, the fatal disease for which there is no cure. Democracy often works beautifully at first. But once a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader—the barbarians enter Rome.”
— Robert A. Heinlein
http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/205.Robert_A_Heinlein
Love Heinlein.
And while we’re at it, let’s all re-read “Moon Is A Harsh Mistress,” Heinlein’s ultimate libertarian book!
I would like to agree but Obama was elected through racial bullying via Reverend Wright, Father Pfleger and probably Bill Ayers. These Marxists have spend decades culling racial animosity, particularly towards whites.
I don't want to be right, here, but what happens when American society collapses?
Who exactly will get blamed? I think I know. I just don't know what happens after.
Please ditch your skin-color generalities, Red. The rest of you stuff sticks, but color of skin does not individually make us collectivist, or suburban, or capitalist.
Yeah, I have to say where I live some of the worst sucking off the public teat is being done in what you would call “white trash” neighborhoods.
We are a Constitutional Republic. Only if we allow ourselves the ignorance of devolving into a democracy will we end our exitence as a free people.
I have talked about a tipping point - that point beyond which there is no return - and what is the indiviual’s own tipping point. For most of us, we are either past or near the tipping point and have planned accordingly. Many more have become aware of it and are now starting to act.
CW2 will come and come quickly. Keep your powder dry.
Deo vindice
Well they are all 'generalities' aren't they? I mean just because someone lives in the city doesn't imply much about their politics either.
In fact, if we took the cardinal sin of the coming conflict to be support for Obama you could not find a more nearly perfect corrilation than "having black skin". If you equated them, you would be right more than 19 out of 20 times. If you equated "blue state resident" you would be right less than 12 out of 20 times.
And regardless of analysis like this, once actual fighting starts (if it ever does, which I hope it does not) history tells us that 'factor 2' will outweigh all other factors by orders of magnitude. That's not fair, it's not right, but it's still likely to be the case.
Which is another good reason I hope and pray we pull back and find a peacefull way out of this.
In the absence of any order whatsoever, people are reduced to the lowest basest motives and actions. Race is down there among them. I think it would be foolish to rule out race as a motive in a situation of pure chaos.
“.... but color of skin does not individually make us collectivist, or suburban, or capitalist.”
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Yeah, sure melanin content does not dictate perspective or philosophy.
However, cultural mores as dictated by race certainly DO.
The original point on race was valid and highly apropos.