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China produces 97 percent of materials known as rare earth oxides (used in weapons, etc.)
Government Accountability Office ^ | April 14, 2010 | Government Accountability Office

Posted on 04/15/2010 1:28:27 PM PDT by Stayfree

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To: MNlurker; All
Pretty good article on one "rare earth element"...

http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2008/1124/034.html

21 posted on 04/15/2010 3:40:52 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: 1rudeboy
Someone said recently...that the Chicoms look at things in 1,000 year increments...and we look at things in decades.

The Chicoms have been out-dueling us...for years now.

Commodities, manufacturing, agriculture, and closing in now military-wise...etc, etc...

IMO...of course.

22 posted on 04/15/2010 3:49:02 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: Osage Orange

The Magnequench stunt could’ve been pulled-off by a Chinese retard with a broken watch. They just bought the Administration.


23 posted on 04/15/2010 3:52:09 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Anyone...who paid any attention...knows something smelled with the John Houngs, and the Riady's...( My spelling is wrong..I know. But I'm lazy..and someone else can correct it. )

They know...the Clinton's were paid off..bribed, and used.

God only knows who else in the Den of Thieves in D.C. was/is involved.

24 posted on 04/15/2010 3:56:52 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: MNlurker

There are millions tons of scrap hard drive magnets that could be recycled... Most are returned to China for recycling, but they could be recycled here.


25 posted on 04/15/2010 4:14:40 PM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: NE_PaleoCon; 1rudeboy
You're both wrong.

Magnequench's patents were expiring, and it most common for a patent holder to sell the patent before it expires.

It starts there in the second paragraph under Patents and Intellectual Property.

26 posted on 04/15/2010 4:57:29 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

That’s not the point. The Feds had the power to stop the sale on national security concerns, and didn’t.


27 posted on 04/15/2010 4:59:32 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

That’s because there wasn’t a national security concern.


28 posted on 04/15/2010 5:11:21 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

I disagree. If there wasn’t, the GAO would have no need to issue this report.


29 posted on 04/15/2010 5:13:25 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Osage Orange

Another reason why the Clintons should have never been allowed to hold any high office forever!


30 posted on 04/15/2010 5:17:17 PM PDT by Soul Citizen
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To: 1rudeboy
I hate to tell you this but GAO reports can easily be manipulated. In this particular case a group of congressmen, on behalf of the union, requested it.

This is not cutting edge technology. The original patent to GM/Magnequench was awarded in 1983.

31 posted on 04/15/2010 5:22:41 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
I get that, but the fact of the matter remains that we had processing technology and equipment (even if old) that the Chinese shut down in favor of their own. Equipment with national security implications. In a market where the U.S. now relies on China to supply 97% of the supply.

Even if the gubmint lost track of it, we need to keep our eye on the ball.

32 posted on 04/15/2010 5:27:29 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: MNlurker

Russia also has a bunch of these; however they keep the rare earth oxides for military use only.


33 posted on 04/15/2010 5:32:55 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: MNlurker
China produces 97 percent of materials known as rare earth oxides (used in weapons, etc.)

In a follow-up report, it has been determined that China also produces 97% of the stuff in Wal-Mart, 97% of the stuff in Costco, and 97% of the stuff in Target.

34 posted on 04/15/2010 6:25:22 PM PDT by kittycatonline.com
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To: Osage Orange

“The Chicoms have been out-dueling us...for years now.”

Because they don’t listen to celebrities over experts, actual experts. Their culture worships scientists, educators, and they richly reward those who have actual smarts and work to build their country.


35 posted on 04/15/2010 7:55:37 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: 1rudeboy
if only wage scales were equalized between China and the United States...   ...we could restore rare earth production and processing in the U.S.

Funny thing is that we hear that a lot.  Never mind how all manufacturing would take a serious hit from price hikes in rare earths --then again the paleos' solution to mfgr employment is [I swear I'm not making this up] lowering productivity.

At least there one Chinese product the paleos don't mind buying in quantity: GOLD!

36 posted on 04/16/2010 6:35:17 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: expat_panama
Have you ever noticed that, with protectionists, nearly everything is about national security until something actually is about national security?
37 posted on 04/16/2010 6:37:42 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
lol!

Thanks, I need all the laughs I can get. 

It's true though, throughout history international conflicts are won by the side with more money and more trading partners.   Isolationist countries always end up getting taken over by others  --and yet our paleos brethren have the gall to say we're the traitors!

38 posted on 04/16/2010 7:28:44 AM PDT by expat_panama
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To: 1rudeboy
I realize that a lot of people say it is a natl security issue but I've never seen where the pentagon says that it is

If you go back in time you can find where the pentagon specifically says it is not.

Even today, after China's pronouncements, I've not seen that. Only the pentagon saying that they have been studying the issue for a long time.

If it it were a nat'l security issue, and the powers that be were to say so, then a national stockpile could be established.

We know that Molycorp is mining and they are sending material to customers in Japan who are sending it to China for processing and it is then sent back to Japan.

Let the US Govt buy from Molycorp, send it to China and back to national stockpile.

But let me warn you, if Obama and the democrat congress did something like that, the GOP and the freepers would say that Obama is trying to socialize the rare earth industry.

39 posted on 04/16/2010 11:31:28 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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