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Obama orders same-sex hospital visits
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Posted on 04/15/2010 9:00:23 PM PDT by LouAvul

President Obama on Thursday signed a memorandum requiring hospitals to allow gays and lesbians to have non-family visitors and to grant their partners medical power of attorney.

The president ordered the Department of Health and Human Services to prohibit discrimination in hospital visitation. The memo is scheduled to be made public Friday morning, according to an administration official and another source familiar with the White House decision.

An official said the new rule will affect any hospital that receives Medicare or Medicaid funding.

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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Under the new rules well, as long as they claim to be your lover, they must be allowed access. It could be anybody. Whether you know them or want to see them or not.

I didn't catch that, would you please quote that part of the order? Thanks.

81 posted on 04/15/2010 11:22:22 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Conservative Bostonian, atheist pro-lifer, mocker of the clueless)
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To: Kleon

Blind one meet Tyrant...


82 posted on 04/15/2010 11:22:49 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: patriot08

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!


83 posted on 04/15/2010 11:22:53 PM PDT by mojitojoe (“Our leaders seek to pit us against one another, and torment us relentlessly."Mark Levin)
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To: patriot08

I like it -pictures paint a thousand words...


84 posted on 04/15/2010 11:30:29 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: Darkwolf377
The president ordered the Department of Health and Human Services to prohibit discrimination in hospital visitation.

Here you go. If they can not discriminate between visitors then they have to let anyone who wants in come in unless you have asked for them to be kept out.

So former friends, ex-spouses, your boss, your landlord all they have to do is claim to be your lover and they are whisked right in.

Now this may not be the intention of the memo BUT it will be the result. Because the first time a hospital asks one of the gay lovers for some kind of proof that they are actually in relationship with the patient they will scream to the heavens that their civil rights were violated and the hospital committed a hate crime.

So the hospital will not ask. It may sound wild but did you ever think you would see the day when people could wander into either a boys or girls bathroom depending on what sex they "felt like" they were that day?

85 posted on 04/15/2010 11:46:59 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (I miss the competent fiscal policy and flag waving patriotism of the Carter Administration)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
The president ordered the Department of Health and Human Services to prohibit discrimination in hospital visitation. Here you go. If they can not discriminate between visitors then they have to let anyone who wants in come in unless you have asked for them to be kept out. So former friends, ex-spouses, your boss, your landlord all they have to do is claim to be your lover and they are whisked right in.

Nonsense--you're talking about "public access," not discrimination. Discrimination or non-discrimination has nothing to do with letting jsut anyone in off the street. A private school can't discriminate on the basis of sex, sexual preference, etc.--that doesn't mean they take everyone who simply wants entry to their school. Ditto with apartments, private companies, etc.

You've completely distorted the meaning of disccrimination. You as much admit you're incorrect when you later add "Now this may not be the intention of the memo ..." and that the first time the hospital asks someone will scream discrimination. The first time someone asks for access and is shown right in, as you say, and the patient threatens to sue the hospital for lax security.

Obviously you don't have to agree with the ruling, but to simply invent things doesn't make sense.

It may sound wild but did you ever think you would see the day when people could wander into either a boys or girls bathroom depending on what sex they "felt like" they were that day?

A bit paranoid, aren't we? I've never seen this very rare occurance happen--have you?

86 posted on 04/15/2010 11:57:16 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Conservative Bostonian, atheist pro-lifer, mocker of the clueless)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The horse gets to visit, of course.


87 posted on 04/16/2010 3:05:34 AM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Power of attorney ends at death.


88 posted on 04/16/2010 3:07:50 AM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: Darkwolf377

For me, and probably most here, it’s not about who visits you, but the President has NO right to dictate this and absolutely no reason to micromanage this either.


89 posted on 04/16/2010 3:11:45 AM PDT by Shimmer1
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To: LouAvul
An official said the new rule will affect any hospital that receives Medicare or Medicaid funding.

Wait until Obamacare takes hold. He will be ordering Catholic hospitals to perform abortions for the same reasons.

90 posted on 04/16/2010 3:15:53 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Kleon

“People in a committed relationship should be able to visit their loved ones in the hospital.”

What is a ‘committed relationship’, what are it’s limits or boundries and how do you gauge it at the hospital?


91 posted on 04/16/2010 3:55:06 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Shimmer1

Right. But the same contractual powers that currently exist can then name anyone as executor.


92 posted on 04/16/2010 4:56:30 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: keepitreal
Yes, but how is the hospital supposed to determine the committed relationship in the case one of the partners is comatose? Upon what proof do they rely. This is easily solved by a written POA executed by the parties involved..

That's exactly what this does. Unmarried couples, either gay or straight, can now specify in writing who can visit them in the hospital. There's nothing about this that says hospitals have to allow visitation rights to someone just claiming to be someone's partner.

93 posted on 04/16/2010 6:06:40 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: Defiant

I agree. A micro-managing, self-absorbed dictator.

Our legislatve branch should be ASHAMED for allowing this to take place.


94 posted on 04/16/2010 6:16:52 AM PDT by Voter62vb
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To: MestaMachine
Years ago when my father was in an intensive care unit, a friend of his said he was his brother and was allowed to visit.

It may be "official" policy, but I doubt it's ever enforced.

95 posted on 04/16/2010 6:25:31 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: LouAvul

Just another day in paradise.....


96 posted on 04/16/2010 6:28:47 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: LouAvul
President Obama on Thursday signed a memorandum requiring hospitals to allow gays and lesbians to have non-family visitors.........

Is Larry Sinclare hospitalized?

97 posted on 04/16/2010 7:27:22 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: melancholy

Sinclare-———> Sinclair


98 posted on 04/16/2010 7:35:32 AM PDT by melancholy
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To: Kleon

That’s not my point. From what I read it goes to also giving gay partners medical POA. Currently, you can give anyone medical POA in writing. This seems to indicate that gay partners now have that right without writing. Next of kin can make medical decisions for an incapacitated person based upon legally recognized relationships. There are legal documents which are evidence of such relationships (marriage licenses, birth certificates). Without such, how does a hospital shield itself from liability if someone claims to be a “partner” but it turns out the incapacitated party does not have the same intent?

This is not an issue of visitation, but of medical decisions. I just think the hospital can be caught in a no-win situation in some cases where the parties may not view their relationship in the same light, but one is incapacitated and cannot speak for his own medical decisions.


99 posted on 04/16/2010 7:50:22 AM PDT by keepitreal ( Don't tread on me.)
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To: MestaMachine

But I have never seen them ask for any proof of familial relationship. Hospitals should let patients have visits from whomever the patient wishes. No need for the so-called president to be involved. The man just wants to micro-manage the world.

FUBO


100 posted on 04/16/2010 8:12:39 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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