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It's a matter of constitutional integrity
World Net Daily ^ | April 14, 2010 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 04/16/2010 5:41:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 04/16/2010 5:42:26 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Now that it is plainly evident even prominent officials in Kenya believe Barack Obama is foreign born, it becomes a matter of historical accuracy and constitutional integrity that his life story be fully documented.

Long before Obama was elected president and ever since, the people of Kenya have spoken of him as one of their own. Even first lady Michelle Obama referred to her husband's "home country" as Kenya during the campaign. And now we have James Orengo, a member of the Kenyan Parliament explicitly characterizing Obama as one "born in Kenya."


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho44; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; constitution; dangerous; eligibility; enemywithin; fraud; ineligible; kenyabelieveit; kenyanborn; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamanoncitizenissue
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1 posted on 04/16/2010 5:41:22 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yeah.........Amen!
2 posted on 04/16/2010 5:43:00 PM PDT by conservativegramma (If Congress refuses to listen, its taxation without representation all over again)
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To: circumbendibus

ping

drip, drip, drip....It’s not going away Barry!


3 posted on 04/16/2010 5:45:43 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ( Lady NRA member. "ZERO is a DRIVE-BY (fake) PRESIDENT")
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To: LucyT; ASA Vet

Kenyan Ping!


4 posted on 04/16/2010 5:52:22 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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The is an entry in the newspaper right after Obama’s birth that documents his birth. This entry had to come from a hospital. The Africans wish him to belong to them, but wishing doesn’t make it so.


5 posted on 04/16/2010 5:54:54 PM PDT by webboy45
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The evidence pointing to this usurpers ineligibility and fraud is overwhelming, I can't believe some would come on here and defend the SOB.

There's a video around here somewhere of Thomas saying the court is evading this issue, unreal.

6 posted on 04/16/2010 5:56:50 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has this ever happened before in American History? If so, how was it settled? Can Obama be impeached for being an “illegal president”?


7 posted on 04/16/2010 5:58:34 PM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: teletech

The Kenyan dirtbag is now a lame duck.

No way he gets elected again.

He thinks America sucks and now Americans think he sucks.


8 posted on 04/16/2010 6:11:07 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: webboy45
>"The Africans wish him to belong to them, but wishing doesn’t make it so."

Just like your wishing him to be NBC doesn't make it so either!

9 posted on 04/16/2010 6:17:46 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:31 Behold, I am against you," O " you most proud, said the said the Lord GOD of hosts)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

The Thomas vid is linked in the Thomas thread in the Smokey Backroom.


10 posted on 04/16/2010 6:20:13 PM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: PA-RIVER
He thinks America sucks and now Americans think he sucks.

Apparently not enough Americans think he sucks but they will.

11 posted on 04/16/2010 6:22:58 PM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: Canedawg

Thanks


12 posted on 04/16/2010 6:27:29 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: webboy45
The is an entry in the newspaper right after Obama’s birth that documents his birth. This entry had to come from a hospital.

Okay, so lets accept the newspaper announce as true. Who's listed as Dad?

13 posted on 04/16/2010 6:33:49 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: teletech

Can Obama be impeached for being an “illegal president”?
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If the proverbial smoking gun was produced and it was shown he is constitutionally unqualified to hold the office, he’d probably step down. Impeachment and conviction for high crimes and misdemeanors would be a slam dunk (as long as there were more Americans than commies in the Congress.)

His only other option would be to try to hold on to the office by force.


14 posted on 04/16/2010 6:38:13 PM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: Canedawg

He’s already holding on by threat ...


15 posted on 04/16/2010 6:42:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: webboy45
This entry had to come from a hospital.

Clearly you're not up to speed. Which hospital? None of them on the island have any record of Obama's birth in Hawaii. Were you aware that one could obtain a Hawaiian birth certificate based solely on a written statement from the mother or even from a relative? His sister (or sister in law) has a Hawaiin COLB and we KNOW that she was born in Jakarta, Indonesia.

The Africans wish him to belong to them, but wishing doesn’t make it so.

And neither does your statement about the newpapers make it so that Obama was born in Hawaii.

16 posted on 04/16/2010 6:53:47 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Sarah Palin: Americas last, best hope for survival.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

here you go...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2494290/posts


17 posted on 04/16/2010 7:00:21 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: Canedawg
If the proverbial smoking gun was produced and it was shown he is constitutionally unqualified to hold the office, he’d probably step down. Impeachment and conviction for high crimes and misdemeanors would be a slam dunk (as long as there were more Americans than commies in the Congress.)

His only other option would be to try to hold on to the office by force.

He would try to hold the office by force. he is so arrogant you would have to drag him kicking and screaming his Marxism from OUR Whitehouse. He will use all means at his disposal to prevent the truth from coming out but I know in my heart it will eventually come out.

18 posted on 04/16/2010 7:01:44 PM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: webboy45
The is an entry in the newspaper right after Obama’s birth that documents his birth. This entry had to come from a hospital. The Africans wish him to belong to them, but wishing doesn’t make it so.

The newspaper says the listings came from the Bureau of Vital Statistics, not the hospital. According to state laws and natality reports, births are reported from a variety of sources. There's no documentary evidence that Obama was born in a Hawaiian hospital.

19 posted on 04/16/2010 7:13:41 PM PDT by edge919
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To: webboy45

Sheesh next thing you will be trying to tell us is there are two types of citizens, natural born and naturalized. You need to get up to speed on the subject.


20 posted on 04/16/2010 7:46:30 PM PDT by rolling_stone (no more bailouts, the taxpayers are out of money!)
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To: phockthis

Thanks.

I was actually looking for the abridged version on YT, it’s easier to get to what he says. Here it is here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7qEH-tKoXA


21 posted on 04/16/2010 7:49:09 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron ("Because without America, there is no free world" - Canada Free Press - MSM, where are you?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

thanks


22 posted on 04/16/2010 8:13:19 PM PDT by phockthis
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To: webboy45
Warning to you= Dont buy Oklahoma Ocean Front property.
23 posted on 04/16/2010 9:19:37 PM PDT by jarofants
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To: webboy45

sorry ,but in Hawaii the hospitals DO NOT place birth announcements in newspapers and never have. The announcements are either placed by the parents or if they child’s birth has been registered with the state Health records then they placed it. Birth in a Hawaian hospital(or even in Hawaii) was not required to register a child in Hawaii in 1961. The only way to vertify if a child was actually born in Hawaii in 1961 would be to obtain a copy of the CERTIFIED certificate of birth(long form) containing hospital and doctor information. obama will never allow a copy to be released because it would certify that his father was a kenyan national and make him inelgible to be president under Article 2 of the Constitution. Congress has the right to void obama’s election ,but they never will.


24 posted on 04/17/2010 8:14:32 AM PDT by omegadawn
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To: webboy45

This entry had to come from a hospital
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Wrong!


25 posted on 04/17/2010 8:20:51 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: teletech

but I know in my heart it will eventually come out.
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Given the glacial pace of our court system, to you expect it to come out in this century or the next?


26 posted on 04/17/2010 8:25:13 AM PDT by wintertime
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To: webboy45
Another person who believes everything they read in the newspaper.

Use more than one source. Trust but verify. Question authority. Follow the money.

27 posted on 04/17/2010 8:58:22 AM PDT by txnuke (Obama votes "PRES__ENT" because he has no ID.)
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To: webboy45

You are quite wrong. Hospitals don’t put paid birth announcments in the newspapers. Paid birth announcements are put in the news papaers by ANYONE WHO PAYS FOR THEM — uusually family members. The newspapers do not fact check the paid birth announcements.


28 posted on 04/17/2010 10:45:54 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: ASA Vet

No, don’t let’s accept it as true because a paid birth announcement is not subjected to any scrutiny whatsoever.


29 posted on 04/17/2010 10:47:15 AM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“now we have James Orengo, a member of the Kenyan Parliament explicitly characterizing Obama as one “born in Kenya.”

Has anyone in WH press asked Gibbs whether Mr. Orengo is lying about this matter? When there are publicly-made claims that conflict with one another, doesn’t the public have a right to know what is true about their president? I’d love to hear Gibbs’ explanation of how Mr. Orengo would have “misspoken” on such a matter: confused? senile? venal? misinformed?


30 posted on 04/17/2010 1:36:50 PM PDT by DrC
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To: kabumpo

“Paid birth announcements are put in the news papaers by ANYONE WHO PAYS FOR THEM”

True, but in this case, these were not paid birth announcements. See post #24 for a good description of how these came to be published. If you check the 2 newspapers’ listings, they are identical in content and listing order. This suggests the papers were simply re-printing a list distribution by DOH of births occurring during the past week or whatever.


31 posted on 04/17/2010 1:39:06 PM PDT by DrC
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To: omegadawn
You are right.

We now have David Ramsays writings, a founding father, who documented NBC as the child of two US citizens at birth.

Game, set, match, Obama is clearly not an NBC. He is a one term president. The MSM gave him enough cover to get him one term. But he isn't getting a second.

32 posted on 04/17/2010 3:27:55 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: omegadawn

Also, a big difference in 2012, McCain will not be heading the republican party while defending Obama in the next election.

The fact that he’s not an NBC will be documented fact.


33 posted on 04/17/2010 3:32:17 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: LucyT; BP2; rxsid; null and void

ping


34 posted on 04/17/2010 4:39:02 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: tutstar; 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten; wintertime; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; ...
If I may repeat an exchange from earlier today?

2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten:

One point that seems a bit obvious but I’ll say it anyway.

If you had said “Bush wasn’t an American” or “Clinton wasn’t an American” or “Nixon wasn’t an American” - people would have yawned.

If you say “Obama isn’t an American” you better be prepared for the machine to come down on your head because that is what is going to happen.

I wonder how come?

wintertime:

Because it is self-evident that Nixon and Bush were natural born citizens. Their past history was utterly and completely transparent.

ARMIES of citizens ( a very high standard for evidence) would have testified that:

**They personally knew the parents and their history.
** They visited the mom and new baby in the hospital or home soon after birth.
** They attended the Christening.
** They were personal witnesses to the growth and development of the baby as he grew to maturity.
Obama can not present even one citizen who can testify to his natural born status. Since he does not have this high standard of having citizens that can testify to his natural born status, then it is REASONABLE to request that he provide the lesser standard of evidence of a **certified** paper trail.

I am 63 years old, and there are still people alive and well who would be honored to testify that I am, indeed, a natural born citizen.

An honest man would be **HONORED** to promptly prove with all of the best certifiable evidence that he is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president.

So?...Why doesn't Obama do that? It is a simple matter for him to nod his head to his secretary and have this settled within the week. Only a guilty man would hesitate to do this.


35 posted on 04/17/2010 4:53:55 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 450 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void
Because it is self-evident that Nixon and Bush were natural born citizens. Their past history was utterly and completely transparent.

Funny you mention Nixon. His running mate and Vice President, Spiro Agnew was born to an American mother and a Greek immigrant father who was not a U.S. citizen at the time of his birth.

And, yes, Vice Presidents need to meet the exact same standard of eligibility as do Presidents. I don't recall history debating Agnew's eligibility or concerned that he was born with dual citizenship. In fact, he spoke proudly of his immigrant roots throughout the campaign.

36 posted on 04/17/2010 5:03:39 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

That’s an unfortunate side effect of the modern practice, of electing the President and the Vice President on a “ticket.” Constitutionally speaking, there is no “ticket” but it’s provided cover for questionable eligibility on several occasions, most notably Chester A. Arthur.

Arthur became President when one of his own, crazed supporters, not incoincidentally a lawyer, shot and killed Garfield.

Agnew was forced to resign in disgrace.

Obama is one of the most controversial and divisive figures, if not the most contoroversial figure, in the White House of all time.

Do you sense a trend, with those who scam their way into the Executive branch, with questionable allegiance to the Constitution and to The People?

Of course you don’t, you’ve got a personal axe to grind, and would throw the Constitution in the trash to favor your own situation.


37 posted on 04/17/2010 5:15:13 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: webboy45

No, that did NOT “have to come from a hospital.” It could easily have been placed by family.

Moreover, the announcement said only that a baby boy had been born, no birth place.

Totally irrelevant, since no one has ever argued that Barry 0 was never born.


38 posted on 04/17/2010 5:18:39 PM PDT by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: Drew68

And we all know how the Agnew vice-presidency turned out, don’t we?

Good point in favor of a narrow definition of NBC.


39 posted on 04/17/2010 5:20:28 PM PDT by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: teletech

Technically, I don’t think he can be impeached from an office that he doesn’t legally hold.


40 posted on 04/17/2010 5:21:59 PM PDT by Jedidah (Character, courage, common sense are more important than issues.)
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To: null and void
We 63 year olds have to stick together!

Great point.

Zero has spent untold millions, we will never know the true amount,to hide anything that shines the light of day on his past. One can only imagine the untold "nat. security " dollars spent to secure his past.

Compared to any President before him it's a huge sham,con and deceitful.

One would be foolish not to be suspicious.

41 posted on 04/17/2010 5:49:06 PM PDT by rodguy911 ( Sarah 2012!!! Home of the free because of the brave.)
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To: MHGinTN; Canedawg
Special Army Unit Ready to be Deployed on American Soil Just Before Nov. Elections

The way it's going I think it will be a miracle if we get to vote in November!

42 posted on 04/17/2010 5:57:46 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: jarofants

ya think? lol


43 posted on 04/17/2010 5:59:04 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or ...off..)
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To: null and void
An honest man would be **HONORED** to promptly prove with all of the best certifiable evidence that he is a natural born citizen and eligible to be president.

So?...Why doesn't Obama do that? It is a simple matter for him to nod his head to his secretary and have this settled within the week. Only a guilty man would hesitate to do this.

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And having spent millions of dollars keeping his personal information under lock and key so no one can get to it ever - it defies common sense and all vestiges of honesty of this president. It also casts concern about the nation's highest courts and what part they are playing in keeping this personal information withheld. Even education documents are "off-limits" to everyone. More and more it seems there is an " appearance of massive cover-up" involving all sorts of entities (courts/judges included). There should be NO reason educational documents are not released unless there is something in these documents indicating our leader is of "foreign" status.

44 posted on 04/17/2010 5:59:32 PM PDT by MamaDearest
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To: teletech

I believe he’s a usurper; no question about it. However, his being reelected has nothing to do with whether he sucks or not. It has *everything* to do with nearly half of the country being freeloaders, non-payers of taxes, welfare addicts, etc. Now add to THAT number all of the illegals to whom BHO plans to give amnesty, and there you will have enough voters who will reelect him.


45 posted on 04/17/2010 6:08:03 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: tutstar

Yesterday I posted on another thread that I fully expect to see the *S* hit the fan between Labor day and Halloween. Be prepared for the “unexpected”, as this regime likes to say.


46 posted on 04/17/2010 6:17:11 PM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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To: Drew68

Perhaps that mistake is why Agnew needed to be replaced by Ford before Nixon could be impeached.


47 posted on 04/17/2010 6:26:44 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 450 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: rodguy911; wintertime
We 63 year olds have to stick together!

wintertime is 63.

48 posted on 04/17/2010 6:29:57 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 450 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Canedawg

the “*s*” meaning more proof revealed...?

or “the *s*” meaning a manufactured crisis to allow more government manhandling?


49 posted on 04/17/2010 6:37:10 PM PDT by bitt ("WE THE PEOPLE" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVAhr4hZDJE)
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To: bitt

The second one, unfortunately.

But I’ve been wrong before...


50 posted on 04/17/2010 6:39:27 PM PDT by Canedawg (I'm not digging this tyranny thing.)
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