Heckler & Koch P7 M13 A Political Refugee In America

ammoland.com ^ | 16 April, 2010 | Tony Walker

[marktwain]

Disclaimer... The owner of the Scottsdale Gun club is related to me and credits me with introducing him to guns at an early age.

[bmwcyle]

Rules

[rellimpank]

—I’m curious as to how the guns were transported here-

[Nervous Tick]

>> —I’m curious as to how the guns were transported here-

Not sure it was a big deal, prior to 9/11.

Remember when you could check locked baggage and if anyone wanted to look in it they’d have to ask you for the key?

[Repeat Offender]

—I’m curious as to how the guns were transported here-

Let's not talk about such terrible experiences. The important thing is that they are safe now.

[KrisKrinkle]

Is this the confession of a crime that could be used against him in court?

I know there are rules for importation of firearms in commerce, but I don’t know about personnel, non-commercial transfers.

[1rudeboy]

I've always meant to ask, and this is as good a thread as any other: why do some manufacturers square-off the forward portion of the trigger guard? Is it to keep your index finger from sliding off when you are holding the weapon but not shooting it (finger off the trigger)?

If that's the case, wouldn't it be safer simply to lay your index finger alongside the trigger guard instead of wrapping it around the front?

[justlurking]

Remember when you could check locked baggage and if anyone wanted to look in it they’d have to ask you for the key?

If you comply with the FAA's rules, you can transport firearms in checked baggage, at least within the US.

My memory of the rules:

• The firearm must be unloaded.
• The firearm must be in a locked container, separate from any ammo.
• The locked container can go inside your checked baggage, which remains unlocked.
• The "red tag" for the firearm goes inside the baggage.

There are TSA-approved locks, which have an override that only TSA is supposed to have. So, you can put that lock on the outside of the bag.

[Vaquero]

I shoot Cowboy Action Shooting with a local club. 3 guys here who are like the 3 amigos are from Europe 1 Scott, 1 Englishman and 1 Pole. they set up matches and shoot together under what they laughingly call themselves ‘Eurotrash’.

These guys really appreciate what it means to be free in America. Something 52% of the voting public did not know back in the 08 election.

[Zeppo]

and had been fitted with a set of Tritium night sights...

Wonder how they perform after 10 years...

What's the half life of tritium anyway? (he wondered, wonderingly, which prompted him to do a google search that turned up a figure of 12.32 years)...

[Vinnie]

The P7 confuses me.
Do you have to release and squeeze between each shot or just continue squeezing?

I’ve been under the impression that you have to release/squeeze each shot.

[Carbonsteel]

When you pick the gun up, hold and sqeeze. This is what cocks the gun. Squeezing the it also serves as the slide release. Once you release the sqeeze cock, the firing mechanism is disengaged. So, you have to keep tension on the sqeeze cock as long as you want to keep firing.

I have one and love it.

[Nervous Tick]

>> There are TSA-approved locks, which have an override that only TSA is supposed to have. So, you can put that lock on the outside of the bag.

HA HA HA!

Yes, there are. Have you ever seen or used them? They are the cheesiest pieces o’ s___ you’ll ever see.

And, anyway, in a situation where you have lazy TSA who don’t feel like hunting around for the key, they just CUT THEM OFF anyway.

“TSA APproved” locks are WORTHLESS. Yet another abuse perpetrated on law abiding citizens by our arrogant Homeland Security agency.

[Kartographer]

The man brought the guns here for a hunting trip and then simple forgot to pack them for his return trip! ;-)

[omega4179]

No, you just squeeze the front strap once then it just takes a half pound of pressure to keep it down and it is just a single action semi auto at that point. I sold my M8

[Travis McGee]

Cool gun! I wonder what its auction value is?

[Carley]

Remember watching on TV during Katrina. A little old lady was forced to hand over her gun to the police officers.

They were rough with her.

At least a large part of America has smartened up and respects the second amendment.

We need that amendment now more than ever, to protect us from our government.

[Repeat Offender]

I agree. I am really pleased with the recent legislation Bob McDonell (VA) signed. I also like the propsed amendments to some of the bills... like the one allowing elementary schools to teach firearm saftey; similar to Eddie Eagle

I hope they pass a Firearms Freedom Act here; similar to the one NH proposed where any fed agent or fed contractor that tries to enforce fed gun laws concerning weapons manufactured in state.... is guilty of a Class B Felony! And, I would like it if they would include in state manufactured full-autos as weapons not applicable to fed law.

A Castle Doctrine law would be nice too.

One step at a time though.

[marktwain]

It is to allow for a “better” two handed hold, where the index finger of the off hand pulls back on the front of the trigger guard. I became a legacy of the switch to two handed shooting that started around the ‘70s.

[smokingfrog]

Sounds like a sweet shooting gun, but the squeeze to cock thing sounds a bit goofy to me, especially for a law enforcement weapon. Of course it might save your ass if some criminal manages to get hold of your gun and doesn't know how it operates, but that shouldn't happen anyway.