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McCain Proposes Indefinite Detention Without Trial for Citizens (MCCAIN ASSAULTS THE CONSTITUTION)
The New American ^ | 2010-04-18 | Thomas R. Eddlem

Posted on 04/18/2010 7:09:37 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

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To: Texas Fossil

I keep thinking about that DHS memorandum that was released several months ago, and those whom it classified as “possible domestic terrorist” threats. Combine that memorandum with the stipulation in this Bill that the POTUS has the final authority to determine a “belligerent’s” status, and every alarm in the house is going off.


101 posted on 04/18/2010 8:41:03 PM PDT by TCH (DON'T BE AN "O-HOLE"! ... DEMAND YOUR STATE ENACT ITS SOVEREIGNTY !)
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To: TigersEye
My answer to that is Live Free or Die.

Should that hour ever come, I pray for the courage to honor those that founded this great country and to fight for my posterity(for those in Rio Linda--those are the folks to be born in the future).

102 posted on 04/18/2010 8:41:07 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: skookum55; DoughtyOne; mkjessup; All

“but holding an enemy prisoner of war without trial for the duration of hostilities is the norm within the international law of warfare. In fact, if the enemy is an illegal combatant, he can be executed (but, I believe some sort of trial is required before doing so).

It seems to me that McCain may be discovering the international law of warfare, which he didn’t seem to understand during Bush’s administration.”

If that is so, then why do we need this further legislation in the first place?


103 posted on 04/18/2010 8:42:08 PM PDT by AuntB (WE are NOT a nation of immigrants! We're a nation of Americans! http://towncriernews.blogspot.com/)
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To: rabscuttle385
Yeah, what a terrible character attribute loyalty is.

What does it say about you that you're loyal to posting and believing nonsense from the Birch society?

104 posted on 04/18/2010 8:45:00 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: TCH
I keep thinking about that DHS memorandum that was released several months ago, and those whom it classified as “possible domestic terrorist” threats. Combine that memorandum with the stipulation in this Bill that the POTUS has the final authority to determine a “belligerent’s” status, and every alarm in the house is going off.

An excellent "connect-the-dots" type of observation.

I think we will be seeing other connections of seemingly previously unrelated actions coming together.Zero and his regime telegraph their intentions to the faithful--if you know what to look for.

This is their hour,and they will not cease to attempt total control if they have the chance.

105 posted on 04/18/2010 8:45:09 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: exit82

Amen to that.


106 posted on 04/18/2010 8:48:43 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: Texas Fossil

Exactly right. It is a far to powerful authorization for ANY President, even more dangerous with this crew in the White House!


107 posted on 04/18/2010 8:51:27 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: TCH
every alarm in the house is going off.

Spot on. Some "heat" needs to be applied to those who sponsored. They need to "consider" the consequences. I suspect they have not adequately done so.

108 posted on 04/18/2010 8:53:59 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
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Progressive dissemblers on this thread are trying to cover for McCain and distract from the true import of the issue by attacking the source. The actual source though happens to be ...

thomas.loc.gov

109 posted on 04/18/2010 8:58:40 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: TigersEye

LOVE your tagline!


110 posted on 04/18/2010 8:59:10 PM PDT by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: omega4179

Fortunately, people who were silent about Bush’s attempt to deprive an American citizen, Jose Padilla, of the right to habeus corpus are finally beginning to wake up.


111 posted on 04/18/2010 9:00:57 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: reardensteel

From reading the text of the bill, anyone, within the US or outside the US, citizen or non-citizen, who is deemed to have materially supported hostile actions against the US government, can be detained indefinately.

The problem is, the President just has to say you’re an enemy belligerent, and nobody ever hears from you again.


112 posted on 04/18/2010 9:02:00 PM PDT by kamikaze2000 (You can lead a liberal to truth, but you can't make him think.)
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To: gidget7
You made me look. lol

Yep, that's probably better than my clever taglines.

113 posted on 04/18/2010 9:07:36 PM PDT by TigersEye (Duncan Hunter, Jim DeMint, Michelle Bachman, ...)
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To: Lakeshark
Yeah, what a terrible character attribute loyalty is.

Blind loyalty and misplaced loyalty are never good character attributes, are they, Lakeshark?

114 posted on 04/18/2010 9:08:28 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: SoCalPol

Why are you defending McCain and his despicable actions in this particular case?


115 posted on 04/18/2010 9:10:16 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Geez, this guy is such a dangerous loose cannon.


116 posted on 04/18/2010 9:10:47 PM PDT by Oceander (The Price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance -- Thos. Jefferson)
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To: rabscuttle385
Her loyalty isn't nearly so blind as your loyalty to the tinfoil hat nonsense of the Birch Society and Ron Paul.

It's hard to fathom how dumb someone has to be to get involved with the JBS.

117 posted on 04/18/2010 9:11:46 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: omega4179

Guess he must think if he can withstand all those years in the HH all Americans can withstand it..
Let’s hope the citizens of Arizona defeat this guy. He has been in the Senate way too long as have many others of both sides of the aisle.


118 posted on 04/18/2010 9:13:41 PM PDT by celtic gal
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To: AuntB

“Republicans Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, Jeff Sessions of Alabama”

I wasn’t particularly stunned that McCain is pushing this, but Inhofe and Sessions??? What the ??? Are we missing something here??

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Treason is like baseball for Senators ...


119 posted on 04/18/2010 9:13:46 PM PDT by ROTB (Without a Christian revival, we are government slaves, or attacked from outside during armed revolt.)
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To: Oceander; rabscuttle

“Geez, this guy is such a dangerous loose cannon.”

Quote from the article:

“Cosponsors of the bill include Democrat/independent Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut and Republicans Jim Inhofe of Oklahoma, Jeff Sessions of Alabama, Scott Brown of Massachusetts, Saxby Chambliss of Georgia, David Vitter of Louisiana, George LeMieux of Florida, and Roger Wicker of Mississippi.”

And what about the other eight US Senators who are co-sponsoring the bill with McCain?


120 posted on 04/18/2010 9:14:06 PM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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