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Government Informant: Delta Force Involved In Waco Shoot-Out (1999)
http://www.mcsm.org/waco14.html ^ | September 6, 1999

Posted on 04/19/2010 6:06:14 PM PDT by Sybeck1

September 6, 1999

WASHINGTON--A former government officer has told investigators that members of the secret Army unit Delta Force said they participated in a shoot-out during the final assault on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

The witness, according to congressional sources, has already named names; and will soon offer his account under oath!

The development caused panic and confusion at the top levels of the Justice Department and the FBI over the holiday weekend, leaving one top official scrambling for details.

FBI Director Freeh has demanded a full briefing, one agency source divulged late Monday.

Developing...

Meanwhile, congressional investigators are growing convinced that infrared film taken by an FBI surveillance aircraft at 9,000 feet on the final day of the Waco standoff does appear to show U.S. armed forces firing into the church compound.

"We are looking at the footage frame-by-frame... most of us have grown convinced that it does show snipers unloading from the rear of a tank," an investigator for the House Government Reform Committee told the DRUDGE REPORT.

Former FBI agent Richard Schwein, a supervisor at Waco, said charges of government gunfire were "absolutely false."

"False, absolutely false," he said on FOX NEWS SUNDAY. "No FBI agent fired any rounds from their weapons at Waco. There were no Delta Forces or special operations soldiers in an operational capacity at Waco." "And everyone on our side, and the FBI's side, were in armored vehicles, so I don't know how you'd have films of anybody firing into the back of the building. No one was on foot, because we had no body armor that would stop the rounds they were firing."

WAIVER WONDER

Use of active military personnel against civilians without presidential decree is a violation of federal law.

Late last month White House spokesman Joe Lockhart first told reporters that he had no information on the waiver issue.

[August 26, 1999; Thursday]

Q Joe, why was the Army's Delta Force present on the scene the day that Waco burned?

MR. LOCKHART: I would refer you to the Justice Department. I don't have information on the Delta Force one way or the other.

Q The reason I asked is because since the law prohibits the military being used against civilians, I wondered whether the White House either, A, requested it or, B, President Clinton signed a waiver for it.

MR. LOCKHART: I don't have any information on that. Again, I'd refer you to Justice. I don't have any independent information on their role, if any.

The next day, when asked again about any possible waiver, Lockhart offered more details.

[August 27, 1999; Friday]

Q What did the White House know about the potential operational involvement of Delta Force in the Waco siege?

MR. LOCKHART: I think that's an issue that was dealt with at the time. And as we said yesterday, the president was not asked to sign a waiver, nor were we aware of any activity that would have required a waiver. But, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned, Lockhart may still not have the full story.

One witness has told congressional investigators that in April of 1993, in response to a press inquiry, a White House spokesman stated privately that a "waiver is on the president's desk that would have authorized military intervention.

A development that will cause battle during fresh rounds of congressional hearings.

FILED BY MATT DRUDGE

This Information Is From The Drudge Report


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: clinton; clintontruthfile; deltaforce; democratcorruption; democrats; drudge; fbi; specialforces; waco; wacoplusten
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1 posted on 04/19/2010 6:06:15 PM PDT by Sybeck1
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To: Sybeck1

Your lead.


2 posted on 04/19/2010 6:08:05 PM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: Sybeck1

This is all from 1999. Do you have anything current or is this just a rehash?


3 posted on 04/19/2010 6:11:54 PM PDT by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: Sybeck1

Well Chuck Norris does lives about........


4 posted on 04/19/2010 6:12:11 PM PDT by Bigtigermike (Loose lips sink ships, stay away RINO's)
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To: Sybeck1

Was this ever proven? If so it’s a direct violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.


5 posted on 04/19/2010 6:14:26 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: ansel12; backhoe; CholeraJoe; Criminal Number 18F; DevSix; DJ Taylor; Future Snake Eater; ...

SOCOM Ping


6 posted on 04/19/2010 6:14:56 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Iran should have ceased to exist Nov 5, 1979, but we had no president then either.)
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To: Sybeck1

Which government official or covert agent forced David Koresh to walk up to multitudes of parents in his cult and say, “to prove your faith, you must let me screw your 13-year-old daughter.”? Remind me.


7 posted on 04/19/2010 6:15:43 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: TruthHound

A Pox on all their houses.


8 posted on 04/19/2010 6:16:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sybeck1

Even in hind sight it is still hard to believe that in my country, men, women and children were executed for basically following a religious belief not sanctioned by the government. While I personally think Koresh was a screwball, the constitution gave him the right to be one, and, in light of the government’s actions in dealing with him, and his followers, every free man and woman needs to reflect on what might lie in our immediate future should our leaders decide to use military might to tame us.


9 posted on 04/19/2010 6:17:38 PM PDT by Big_Harry ( Starve the Beast!)
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To: TruthHound

Rather than arrest Koresh in town we murdered all the people he was abusing, including little children and pregnant women by burning them alive.


10 posted on 04/19/2010 6:19:40 PM PDT by Carley (I'll keep clinging to the constitution, my guns and my religion, thank you.)
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To: Carley

David “Messiah” Koresh’s prophesy fulfilled.

I have a thing for those who would elevate pondscum like him to martyrdom for whatever reason.


11 posted on 04/19/2010 6:21:56 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: TruthHound

Too bad that never came out in trial.


12 posted on 04/19/2010 6:22:51 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (November can't come soon enough!)
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To: Sybeck1

Donate to FR


13 posted on 04/19/2010 6:25:05 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: RockyMtnMan

http://www.cgsc.edu/carl/download/csipubs/matthews.pdf


14 posted on 04/19/2010 6:25:08 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Carley

No witnesses.


15 posted on 04/19/2010 6:25:41 PM PDT by donhunt (I used to have a US senator who lived in a compound.)
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To: Carley

Yup. Koresh could have easily been arrested in town.


16 posted on 04/19/2010 6:29:47 PM PDT by Frantzie (McCain=Obama's friend. McCain called AMERICANS against amnesty - "racists")
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To: Sybeck1

This is old stuff...What’s your point?


17 posted on 04/19/2010 6:31:13 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Sybeck1

“Ms. Bunds also told me that Howell had fathered at least fifteen (15) children with various women and young girls at the compound. Some of the girls who had babies fathered by Howell were as young as 12 years old. She had personally delivered seven (7) of these children.

According to Ms. Bunds, Howell annuls all marriages of couples who join his cult. He then has exclusive sexual access to the women. He also, according to Ms. Bunds, has regular sexual relations with young girls there. The girls’ ages are from eleven (11) years old to adulthood.”

http://www.justice.gov/05publications/waco/wacoseven.html

Any more pedophiles you feel the need to advocate for?


18 posted on 04/19/2010 6:31:15 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: donhunt

Joyce Sparks, Children’s Protective Services Investigations supervisor, Waco, interviewed a young girl, a former compound resident, on February 22, 1993:
“[She] entered the cult when she was about three or four years old. . . .

We asked her if she could think of any reason that any of the children at the compound would not be safe and as we got into this discussion, she brought up the topic of sexual abuse. She described herself as special and treated differently than other children. She talked about spending time alone with David and although this was ‘scary’ she felt ‘privileged.’

She explained to us that on one occasion, when she was ten years old, her mother left her in a motel room with David Koresh. He was in bed and he told [her] to come over to him. She got into the bed. David had no pants on. He took off her panties and touched her and then got on top of her. . . .

We talked about how she was feeling when this happened and she responded . . . ‘scared.’ When asked what else she felt, she responded . . . ‘privileged.’ When asked what David would do if he knew she was telling us about this, [she] rolled her eyes and said . . . ‘I wouldn’t even want to think about it.’

We asked if she knew about any other girls who had experienced this and she said yes. She reported that she knew about Michelle Jones. When asked how she knew this, she explained that David had talked about having sex with Michelle when she was fourteen. He told in a Bible study once what it was like when he had sex with Michelle.”

Michelle Jones died inside the compound on April 19, 1993.


19 posted on 04/19/2010 6:33:19 PM PDT by TruthHound ("He who does not punish evil commands it to be done." --Leonardo da Vinci)
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To: ColdWater

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2496461/posts

cross reference for current topic...


20 posted on 04/19/2010 6:33:29 PM PDT by Principled (Get the capital back! NRST!)
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