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This Is What The Greece Endgame Looks Like
The Business Insider ^ | 4-22-2010 | Vincent Fernando, CFA and Kamelia Angelova

Posted on 04/22/2010 4:52:51 PM PDT by blam

This Is What The Greece Endgame Looks Like

Vincent Fernando, CFA and Kamelia Angelova
Apr. 22, 2010, 2:25 PM

Yes, you've been hearing about Greek bond yields rising for some time now, but now it is far different -- they're rising, and they've gone vertical.

Below we show the spread between Greek bonds and German bonds. We show the spread, rather than just the plain Greek bond yields in order to remove any broader eurozone concerns. Thus this chart shows the additional yield the market is demanding to hold Greek rather than German bonds.

You can see how the spread has just exploded, rising faster than at any time. This shows a collapse of Greece's perceived creditworthiness.

Note how the 2-year spread is now higher than the 10-year. That's mainly because 2-year Greek bonds are yielding over 10% due to their market rout, and the ten year Greek bond is at about 8.8%. Extend this trend for even a short period of time and it's all over for Greece's finances.

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KEYWORDS: bonds; germany; greece
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1 posted on 04/22/2010 4:52:51 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
If You Can't Understand Why Germany Won't Bail Out Greece, See This Headline
2 posted on 04/22/2010 4:55:40 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

They’re Dead Jim!


3 posted on 04/22/2010 4:58:00 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: blam
Um, except, Greece already has about $40 billion in commitments from the EU, to lend to it around 5.5%, and another $20 billion or so from the IMF, to lend to it around 3.25%, with more stringent conditions.

The question just is, is Greece actually going to use those commitments and borrow? They have the ball. So far they've been running around like headless chickens looking for somebody else to blame for anything and everything, without success.

They should just tap the EU line and buy in some 2 years ahead of time, while also cutting spending. Simple, adult, businesslike, profitable. Which is why there hasn't been the slightest sign of it from these braindead socialists.

4 posted on 04/22/2010 5:00:42 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC

as I write this the EURO is dropping like zer0 approval. Only a lot faster


5 posted on 04/22/2010 5:06:15 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: reefdiver
I called that one back in early December, said the dollar was going up 10% against it. Most of the populists here thought the dollar has to go straight to zero in five minutes or so.

Incidentally, the move isn't particularly large - we are talking a 1.32 level which is basically where it was last year. The mid to late 2009 run up has been undone; it wasn't justified in the first place, really.

6 posted on 04/22/2010 5:10:28 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: blam

yah...imagine attempting to explain to your average German taxpayer why they are getting a great big tax increase shoved down the ‘ol strudel-hopper, while they watch Greek Communists strike and go on paid vacation??

Long hot summer coming...


7 posted on 04/22/2010 5:12:19 PM PDT by Bean Counter (My name is Obammymandius, King of kings: look upon my works ye mighty, and despair...)
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bttt


8 posted on 04/22/2010 5:14:00 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Conservative States of America has a nice ring to it.)
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To: JasonC
According to (Bloomberg) Greece is now prepared to ask euro- region governments for a bridge loan as $11.3 billion in bonds come due next month and borrowing costs surge to the highest since 1998, a Greek government official said.

It will be interesting to see what happens. According to this Ambrose Pritchard article, there is a quartet of German professors preparing to challenge the EU-IMF rescue for Greece at Germany's constitutional court as soon as the mechanism is activated, claiming that it violates the 'no-bail-out' clause of the EU Treaties.

They will ask for an injunction to freeze all aid for Greece while the case is pending, which may take weeks or months (source). What then becomes of Greece?

9 posted on 04/22/2010 5:31:54 PM PDT by tarpit
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To: blam

I don’t think the upward spike in yields is just signaling worry about the ‘creditworthiness’ of Greece.

At this point, the capital markets have to be wondering if the Greeks are sane, adult people. As JasonC points out, there already has been a credit package put together for Greece. What was the first thing said out of Greece upon this package being announced? That it wasn’t big enough, that it needed to be 80B euros.

Huh? Just like that, without bothering to see just how far the 40B would take them? Pretty damn cheeky of them.

Then, instead of getting to work and trying to improve on their situation, the first thing the country decides to do is call a strike?

Riiiiight. That’ll help their economy and spreads.

Right about now, an increasing part of the spread on Greek paper has to be the “stupid spread” - that’s an increase demanded on yields for an entire country being really, really stupid.


10 posted on 04/22/2010 5:40:10 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: Bean Counter

“German taxpayer why they are getting a great big tax increase shoved down the ‘ol strudel-hopper, while they watch Greek Communists strike and go on paid vacation??”

Other people’s money — it’s nice until it runs out...

Let’s see how the socialist idiots like cannibalism.


11 posted on 04/22/2010 5:43:02 PM PDT by Constitutional Patriot (Socialism is the cancer of humanity.)
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To: tarpit
Pritchard is a scare mongering idiot. Four professors aren't going to matter diddly to a particle of it. If the German government agreed loan guarantees and it did, Greece can activate them.
12 posted on 04/22/2010 5:44:57 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: JasonC
You might like this blog story about Pritchard.
13 posted on 04/22/2010 6:16:10 PM PDT by tarpit
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To: Bean Counter

LOL! I can’t help but laugh at your post, which is spot on BTW.


14 posted on 04/22/2010 7:30:42 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (Send a contribution to FreeRepublic! Every dollar helps!)
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To: prairiebreeze

I swear, if we didn’t laugh at this we would be crying insanely...


15 posted on 04/22/2010 7:53:01 PM PDT by Bean Counter (My name is Obammymandius, King of kings: look upon my works ye mighty, and despair...)
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To: bruinbirdman

Ping.


16 posted on 04/22/2010 10:38:48 PM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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I thought it was liberals who dismissed valid points without addressing them.

Yes the EU has a Lisbon Treaty that prohibits bailouts of individual members.

Yes, Mrs. Merkel is facing some tight local elections in May.

Yes, there are concerned interests in Germany who are ready to challenge any German participation in a bailout of Greece.

In the past, the German Supreme Court has upheld German sovereignty over EU laws.

Yes, the Greek situation is front page news in Germany, it is a big deal.

yitbos

17 posted on 04/22/2010 11:19:32 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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Thank you for the extra info. It will be interesting to see if any other nation or nations in the EU will toss more money to Greece. ...looks more than a little risky.


18 posted on 04/23/2010 1:15:48 AM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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Now we see in today's news from Germany that one of Merkel's coalition parties has released a think piece to a business magazine calling for Greece to drop out of the EU.

She won't be Chancellor without them.

She is under a lot of pressure to tell Greece to stick it.

yitbos

19 posted on 04/23/2010 1:29:28 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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Germany has only a few elements of an economy capable of making it through exceptionally rough times by way of trade with other productive countries. It doesn’t seem that investment in the foreign tourism of a service economy would be a high priority for them right now.


20 posted on 04/23/2010 2:27:30 AM PDT by familyop (cbt. engr. (cbt), NG, '89-' 96, Duncan Hunter or no-vote.)
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