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They want what they want and logic & reason have nothing to do with it.
1 posted on 04/24/2010 2:20:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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"Those who seek reparations should visit the Union cemetery at Gettysburg or Hollywood cemetery in Richmond or any of dozens of other graveyards: there is your treasure."

This needs to be repeated; over, and over, and over.

2 posted on 04/24/2010 2:25:53 PM PDT by XHogPilot (A thief might rob you, but politicians can rob your family for countless generations.)
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The GOP was born in 1854 for the explicit reason of ending slavery. It was a minority party that ought to have had no chance, but a very few years later slavery was gone.

The Democrats have their legacy, slave economics, race repression, Jim Crow, lynch mobs, fire hoses, church bombings, white hoods, and we have ours.

They are always trying to change the subject and re-write history, and if I was a Democrat I would too. We should never make the mistake of trying to explain or defend Democrat history. Let them own it.


3 posted on 04/24/2010 2:27:02 PM PDT by marron
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no reparations without repatriation!

here’s your check and your plane ticket—don’t come back.


4 posted on 04/24/2010 2:28:34 PM PDT by cooperj
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....I am the g-grandson of 4 Confederate soldiers...I would agree to one time reparations in the form of say a voucher to go to college, voucher to start a small business, voucher to start a farm ect....no cash payments!....and in return...no EOC hiring...no set asides or carve outs...no preferential college admissions...no minority preference contracts ect...those are already ‘reparations’ and need to end.


5 posted on 04/24/2010 2:31:57 PM PDT by STONEWALLS
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a colleague came up with this idea:
since almost all authentic African-Americans (as opposed to recent immigrants from Africa or pretenders like Obama), are at least 50% white -and each can undergo genetic testing as part of the reparation requirement, they can pay themselves. I.e. their white half can pay their black half


7 posted on 04/24/2010 2:33:02 PM PDT by hecht (NEXT YEAR IN JERUSALEM)
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If Blacks really wanted to call this country their country, they would realize that many people, from many countries, paid a dear price to live here. What about all of the men and women who died fighting for freedom over more than 200 years? From all races and creeds? Yes, some were slaves; others volunteered to give their lives. My grandfather came here in 1911 and toiled 18 hours a day to get a start for his family. Yes, he came voluntarily, but he worked very hard every day to get his freedom. I think blacks would gain a lot more respect if they stopped listening to the victim pushers (Jackson, Sharpton...) and started treating this country like the liked it, instead of always looking to get something for nothing, rip someone off, get government subsidies, and on and on...and by blacks, I don’t mean black Americans who work hard everyday to feed their families...to me they are not black, but simply Americans...I am referring to the lazy, listless people who want something for nothing and think the world owes them something....grow up and start taking responsibility for yourself...dump the nanny government and learn what freedom is...responsibility and freedom....Michele Obama” For once I am proud of my country..” Well, prissy, I’ve been proud of it since before you were born, and proud many times...too bad it’s only once for you...but then again....


8 posted on 04/24/2010 2:33:28 PM PDT by majormaturity
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I can accept this.

Everyone who was a slave up until 1866 when the Union remembered what the theory of their war motive was about, should be recompensed.


9 posted on 04/24/2010 2:35:06 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Is it sedition to defy usurpation?)
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There is no possible way anyone can rationally calculate what each person should pay and to whom.

It is a fallacy (encouraged by lawyers) to think that all wrongs can be paid off somehow. There isn’t enough wealth in the whole world to pay off all the wrongs that people have suffered throughout history, and that many of the same people have committed.

I guess I could dream about my distant ancestors who were dragged out of a comfortable home in France, and had their throats cut in the street, while their neighbors pillaged their belongings, and their 14-year-old son escaped. This was the St. Batholomew’s Day Massacre. I would have to be somewhat crazy to think that the French would ever try to pay the descendants of this disaster — but France already lost, for they killed or drove out many of their best people, and enriched the countries in which the survivors took refuge.

I have a friend (Jewish) whose father escaped the Nazis, who confiscated the family’s business. After the war, the DDR took over the same company as a VEB (socialist enterprise). After reunification, the German government offered to return such properties, and my friend’s family declined. He told me that they were thankful to have come to the US, had made a good life here, and saw no reason why the grandchildren of the perpetrators should pay for a misfortune committed by their ancestors. That is an inspiring example of forgiveness — and it is a necessity, ultimately.


13 posted on 04/24/2010 2:42:53 PM PDT by docbnj
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Black nationalists love to claim that the glory of Egypt was the result of black culture. Since the pyramids were built with Jewish slave labor, shouldn't blacks pay reparations to Jews?

And what about my people, the Slavs, from whence the word "slave" derives? Were my ancestors' sacrifices for nought? I should think a small royalty, say $5.00 every time the word "slave" or "slavery" is co-opted and used to describe non-slavic people, wouldn't be asking too much, and would go a long way to make me feel whole and heal the indignities suffered by my forebears.

16 posted on 04/24/2010 2:52:00 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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Just an excuse for a free hand out.


19 posted on 04/24/2010 3:00:05 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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According to wikipedia:

The history of Liberia is unique among African nations because of its relationship with the United States. It is one of the few countries in Africa, and the only country in West Africa, without roots in the European Scramble for Africa. It was founded and colonized by freed American slaves with the help of a private organization called the American Colonization Society in 1821-1822, on the premise former American slaves would have greater freedom and equality there.[4]Slaves freed from slave ships also were sent there instead of being repatriated to their countries of origin.[5] These colonists formed an elite group in Liberian society, and, in 1847, they founded the Republic of Liberia, establishing a government modeled on that of the United States, naming Monrovia, their capital city, after James Monroe, the fifth president of the United States and a prominent supporter of the colonization.

I have NEVER seen this in ANY history book ever. Do any freepers know much about this? If you do , can you fill me in?


20 posted on 04/24/2010 3:02:09 PM PDT by marstegreg
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African-Americans of today should be thankful for slavery. It brought them to civilization, instead of living in a world of famine, disease and brutality.


22 posted on 04/24/2010 3:05:55 PM PDT by KMG365
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It needs to be said. First off, slavery was horrific, I can't even imagine. Second, there isn't a slave alive today. Thirdly and most importantly, as awful as slavery was, would they prefer living in Africa at any time in African history? Or living here?

I was thinking yesterday, what are the odds of being born in America? What a gift, it's like winning the lottery.

23 posted on 04/24/2010 3:06:55 PM PDT by MsLady (If you died tonight, where would you go? Salvation, don't leave earth without it!)
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As a Slav, for whom slavery was the root word I demand my aberrations Well ahead anyone elses. I get first dibs. Yeah let’s open up that can of worms. let’s all sue each other for slights endured during the caveman era.


25 posted on 04/24/2010 3:10:34 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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NOW I want paid for my Ancestors who had to fight a War for these ungrateful people.


27 posted on 04/24/2010 3:14:44 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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The bill was paid in Caucasian genes


28 posted on 04/24/2010 3:15:48 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Ostracize Democrats. There can be no Democrat friends.)
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funny how they forget or they have not been told how blacks were also slave owners and one so bad to his slaves that his slaves would run off to a white man.
the results was that the black slave owners named Anthony Johnson went to court and basically got slavery legalised
they forget how it was bloacks who sold blacks into slavery and funny how those blacks in central and south America don’t moan about slavery like some blacks here do.

why is that?
Is it because they are not told down in south and central America how they should be given free things because of what happened years ago.
How they are not raised with a give me and all about me attitude there.

They are told this by the white elitist stuck types from the left


33 posted on 04/24/2010 3:24:29 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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“Those who seek reparations should visit the Union cemetery at Gettysburg or Hollywood cemetery in Richmond or any of dozens of other graveyards: there is your treasure.”

I’ve ben saying this for years here on FR.


38 posted on 04/24/2010 3:40:09 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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I don’t owe sh#t. My family arrived in 1950. My Great great grand father was emancipated in 1862 himself. By the Tsar.


46 posted on 04/24/2010 4:42:54 PM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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Gates is a very creepy person, IMO.


49 posted on 04/24/2010 5:29:35 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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