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Hayward men get six months for BB gun hate-crime shooting (Muslims go on Rampage with BB gun)
http://www.insidebayarea.com ^ | 04/22/2010 | By Eric Kurhi

Posted on 04/26/2010 12:51:35 AM PDT by Maelstorm

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To: ca209guy

IBTZ.


21 posted on 04/26/2010 6:34:59 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("We beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them." -- Lazamataz, 2005)
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To: Lazamataz

Me too... IBTZ


22 posted on 04/26/2010 6:43:49 AM PDT by Poser (Enjoying Prime Rib for 58 Years!)
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To: Maelstorm
The men pleaded guilty Monday to a charge of negligent discharge of a BB gun, but with a hate-crime enhancement.

Screw the "hate crime" angle. It's assault and battery. Should be good for plenty, all on it's own.

And the victim should look into Pink Pistols.

23 posted on 04/26/2010 6:59:40 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (Dispensational exegesis not supported by an a-, post- or historic pre-mil scholar will be ignored.)
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To: cva66snipe
Yep, when you can get 1200 FPS out of a .177 caliber pellet, you have the potential for a serious injury up close. However, air guns and BB guns are not firearms, even in CA, regardless of the charges put onto these people. I think the article, since it was written by liberals, fails to mention the most important part. These were muslims deliberately attacking gays. There should be a warning in there somewhere to gays that Muslims will be killing them off first if they ever gain control in this country.

Gays actively support Muslims and side with then against the right, when it would be in their best interest to resist and scream out against muslims.

24 posted on 04/26/2010 7:05:58 AM PDT by calex59
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To: cva66snipe

That’s odd. The Red Rider BB Gun used compressed air. At least the one I had as a kid did. Working the lever pushed a piston compressing air which pushed the BB when the trigger was pulled.


25 posted on 04/26/2010 7:42:21 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: wbill; All

Wbill makes a valid point. I was in Phoenix last Friday-did any else hear about the mob of thousands that attacked a lone white supporter of the new Arizona legislation?

Anyone?

The cops had to protect the guy from the crowd, and were pelted with rocks, bottles and trash.

This did not even get a peep on the local news in Arizona, never mind the national level.

If this had been a mob of whites on a lone black or Hispanic, it would be a historic event. As it was, only a few freepers seem to know or care about it.

Liberals always screech about equal protection under the law, but Hate crime legislation is a one way street.


26 posted on 04/26/2010 7:43:43 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: rlmorel
To your point, I consider myself pretty well-informed, and I'd not heard of the attack you're talking about.

Will dig around on FR and find it.

27 posted on 04/26/2010 7:57:11 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Maelstorm
“That’s why (the allegation) is important.”

So, it’s not what was actually done, but what people want to politicize from it?

Hate crimes are a travesty of the law. No crime is done in “love.”

A crime, done to a specific “group” of privileged people, does not make it any more heinous.

28 posted on 04/26/2010 8:25:12 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: ca209guy
2) It isn’t a felony only because the targets were thought to be gay. Its a felony because of a charge like, “discharge of a firearm with gross negligence” and “attempted mayhem”.

Hey, crawl out from under your log and read this from the short article above:

“Normally the charge would be a misdemeanor, Advertisement Quantcast but with the hate-crime allegation, it becomes a felony,” Buckelew said. “That's why (the allegation) is important.”

29 posted on 04/26/2010 8:29:12 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Hypocrisy: "Animal rightists" who eat meat & pen up pets while accusing hog farmers of cruelty.)
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To: wbill

Check out this link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2499465/posts

As the person who started the thread stated, there were at least a few thousand people, all streaming to this one area to swell the attack.

You can see stuff flying through the air.


30 posted on 04/26/2010 8:29:33 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: Haiku Guy

No one said it was right. What is most certainly wrong is charging someone with a felony when in any other case it would be a misdemeanor simply because of what they were supposedly thinking or rather in this case not thinking much at all.


31 posted on 04/26/2010 8:33:29 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Some want to enslave your body others your soul.)
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To: cake_crumb

Actually there was a recent case involving two black guys who beat an old Asian man to death after targeting his son.


32 posted on 04/26/2010 8:34:32 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Some want to enslave your body others your soul.)
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To: wbill; All

Actually, don’t bother with the Fox News link at the top. It is largely sanitized, and to me, makes it look like the cops were actually arresting the guy, who probably made the “mistake” of saying he supported the bill.

So don’t even bother with that one. Check out this YouTube video, taken by someone from above.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c6KB_hwzf4


33 posted on 04/26/2010 8:34:56 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: 1010RD

I’m surprised that CAIR isn’t involved. This is definitely a case they could win. They could claim their defendants are being unfairly punished more harshly because they are Muslim and have Muslim views. This is a case where I wish they would.


34 posted on 04/26/2010 8:36:16 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Some want to enslave your body others your soul.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Exactly. This threatens all of us because these type of things could in a confluence of events turn the victim into the aggressor and the victim could end up with a harsher sentence simply because of an expressed feeling or thought. What happens when a white man who had written something in a blog about how he thought blacks were responsible for much of crime in his area but then ends up during a mugging injuring one of them seriously? His words could be used against him no matter how truthful or unrelated to the event in which he was attacked.


35 posted on 04/26/2010 8:46:21 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Some want to enslave your body others your soul.)
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To: kbennkc

That looks like the most powerful BB gun in the whole world, and could blow your head clean off...

The question is...Do you feel lucky???

Well do ya...punk!!!


36 posted on 04/26/2010 9:14:23 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: rlmorel

FoxNews has it...FWIW...


37 posted on 04/26/2010 9:15:20 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: stevie_d_64

I don’t watch any television news, to be honest, and that includes Fox. I actually don’t watch television either, but my wife and I were staying in a hotel in Phoenix, and that is the ONLY time I ever even look at television (since we don’t have cable at home, I only really check it out when staying in a hotel. Even then, it seems like a wasteland)

But even then, scanning the local news that night, there wasn’t a peep. I know if there was nothing there, it certainly wouldn’t be on any of the national evening news programs.

So, you saw this footage on Fox?


38 posted on 04/26/2010 9:20:26 AM PDT by rlmorel (We are traveling "The Road to Serfdom".)
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To: rlmorel

Yeah, they’ve been playing a few video bytes off and on this morning...

Amazingly they have a couple of shots of the guys throwing waterbottles and other things at the police trying to shuffle the guy out of the area...

Obviously no arrests have been made...

And they still say the TEA Parties are violent...

What goes around comes around I say...

We will have the last laugh...


39 posted on 04/26/2010 9:26:11 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus sayin')
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To: Maelstorm

Well, in this case, the Muzzies pretty much hate everybody, so every crime they commit should be tried as a hate crime...


40 posted on 04/26/2010 10:22:02 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (Gov. Chris Christie (R) won the NJ-6 held by Rep. Frank Pallone (D) by a 15.5% margin!)
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