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Are we going to allow Lt. Col Terry Lakin to go to prison?
Sioux Falls Conservative Examiner ^ | 4-26-10 | Lori Stacey

Posted on 04/27/2010 11:18:54 PM PDT by STARWISE

If you have been keeping up with the efforts of Americans across the country on the ineligibility issue of Obama, you will have undoubtedly heard about the serious situation involving Lt Colonel Terry Lakin. I had posted his video in a previous article.

The latest update as of this writing is that the US Army is going to proceed with a Court Martial against him. He has been reassigned to Walter Reed Army Medical Center but stripped of the right to practice medicine.

His computer has been seized. He was also on track to be promoted to full Colonel which of course has also been scrapped.

This gentleman has risked his entire military career on trying to finally settle the issue of an unlawful Commander In Chief, a Usurper according to our Constitution.

Are we as South Dakotans, are we as Americans going to just let an honorable man like this lose everything for standing up for the truth?

He is now facing the possibility of being sent to Ft. Leavenworth prison for seeking justice against overwhelming corruption of our political and judicial systems.

Everyone wants to keep making the issue more complicated than it is. There is no need of uncovering sealed documents to prove this case. There is no need of obtaining a real long-form birth certificate. These are all practically unobtainable distractions from the simple core facts.

It is what it is by virtue of not being born to TWO US citizens which he freely admits and is a requirement to be considered "Natural Born".

To back this definition up, the Constitution states that a person is ineligible for President if they are born with dual citizenship as they would have an allegiance to an additional country besides the United States.

There are now 2 different Supreme Court Justices that have gone on the record implying that either he is indeed ineligible to hold the office or acknowledging a concerted effort to cover this up by the US Supreme Court.

Justice Ginsburg has stated what Dr. Orly Taitz had made known a long time ago. In order to be considered a Natural Born Citizen, you must have been born of TWO US citizens in addition to the requirement of being born inside the United States or one of its official territories.

Justice Clarence Thomas has now admitted that the US Supreme Court has intentionally been "evading" the ineligibility issue of Presidents. This was broken in a story by World Net Daily which came out during Justice Thomas' testifying before a House subcommittee hearing. I have embedded the C-Span clip below. This serious issue is the laughing-stock of our Congress.

It is time to bring this issue to a logical conclusion. There have not been any REAL protests in America in many years. By this I mean, protests that do not end until a solution as been achieved. It is time to stand up and be heard. It is time to defend our Constitution before it becomes an official distant memory.

There is also another effort sponsored by Rev. James Manning and will be covered by American Grand Jury.

They are having a people's Grand Jury Trial May 14-19th against Columbia University and Obama regarding the alleged fraudulent degree perhaps issued by Columbia University while it is documented that he actually was working for a CIA front company and believed to have spent those years in Afghanistan. This trial is focused on this particular issue regarding possible fraud of Obama's reported history.

I am asking for help in setting up this effort in Sioux Falls and throughout the State of South Dakota. Please email me if you would like to help defend our Constitution by having the courage to stand up for what is right and peacefully defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

A rally where people go home in a few hours without any resolution or their voices really being heard has not accomplished anything except to be ridiculed and laughed at by the media, our Congress and this illegitimate Administration.

We need to have an ongoing peaceful protest until this matter is finally resolved. All members of Congress and the media are responsible for covering up this issue. It is up to us, We The People to finally make our stand.

Let us come together.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; courtmartial; eligibility; ginsburg; justicethomas; ltcterrencelakin; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: montanajoe

If he’s thrown under the bus without being allowed his defense, then the military will have shot themselves in the foot. The numbers of recruits will drop and others will be getting out as soon as they can because they could be the next Lakin who will be shut up. The powers that be need to wake up and realize this is not just about Lakin but about the honesty and integrity of the military itself. The country is quickly coming to a crisis. Which master will they serve? Will our military turn it’s back to this country’s citizens and the Constitution it should protect or is it going to bow down to a probable enemy within?


41 posted on 04/28/2010 7:05:31 AM PDT by bgill (how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the POTUS)
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins

A court martial board is convened by military orders. Lakin’s defense says that all military orders given since Jan 2009 are illegal and not to be obeyed - which would include the orders forming the board.

He is asking them to decide a question they have no jurisdiction on: “Is Obama a natural born citizen qualified to be President?”

If Lakin had his way, the Board would find “All orders since Jan 2009 have been illegal. Thus the order forming this board is illegal, as are the orders for any serviceman to go anywhere and do anything...so since this is not a real court martial, and since none of us has real, binding orders, we’re all just going to go home and see what happens.”

Won’t happen.

If Lakin really had a problem with Obama being eligible, he should have resigned his commission. He didn’t, and now he’ll have to pay the piper. My guess is dismissal, but we’ll see.


42 posted on 04/28/2010 7:11:58 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers
Ok...So?...If Larkin is found guilty, does he then have access to the civilian court system?
43 posted on 04/28/2010 7:20:18 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wintertime

“Hopefully, this is a crack in the ice jam”

Amen!

Boortz is trying to ‘be the grown-up’, which has it’s place in politics I grudgingly suppose. He wants to stand ‘above the fray’. [yada-yada]. But since he’s simply calling for Obama to produce the BC, sounding perfectly reasonable, he’s one of us now, like it or not.

“That’s just too big of an elephant in the living room to continue to ignore.”

Yep!

” ... why didn’t he ask this question two years ago?”

[Biting my tongue ...] I’m a Boortz basher from way back. But if he steps toward us, I’ll take a step toward him.

“Personally, I am DISGUSTED with Boortz ... [etc]”

Coulter used to openly be a public freeper FRiend. Mark Levin gave us kudos last night. We keep losing allies.

Coulter actually converted me from being a McCarthy basher [Treason], and I was a die-hard evolutionist zealot until reading Godless. So I owe her a lot. She’s rock ribbed. As I understand it, Coulter was pressured into one remark about certifigate hawks [unless I missed something]. I was mad at Breitbart once for not supporting Palin enough. Guess what happened? I found out that Andrew is Breitbart — a freeper. I didn’t know. All he said was that he wants Palin to be the next Oprah.

“Some things are deal breakers.”

We’ve been making headway with conservative media. Back in the 90s, it was a lot worse than it is today. Sure, they talked about Vince Foster and Waco — that was about it. They caught ‘h’ for just that much.

Glenn Beck came out with a powerful expose last night, BTW. Hannity has been brave — like the FALN pardons [which will be important if Heritage is correct about the Peurto Rico vote]. And Ayers — very important.

Just my way of looking at it, FRiend.


44 posted on 04/28/2010 7:21:25 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: Mr Rogers

“Lakin’s defense says that all military orders given since Jan 2009 are illegal and not to be obeyed - which would include the orders forming the board.”

That’s what happens when congress ratifies someone unqualified.


45 posted on 04/28/2010 7:23:21 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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To: wintertime

The civilian court will review how the military court performed its duties. Even the Supreme Court has no desire to weigh in on the standard Congress and the States used in qualifying Obama...


46 posted on 04/28/2010 7:25:05 AM PDT by Mr Rogers
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To: Mr Rogers; xzins; jagusafr; blue-duncan; wmfights; Lady Jag; Forest Keeper; pissant
He is asking them to decide a question they have no jurisdiction on: “Is Obama a natural born citizen qualified to be President?”

That is a threshold question and as long as Obama is president he is obligated to prove his eligibility if so questioned. I think Lakin has a right to discovery on the issue, since his defense is predicated on nothing more than a request that the president prove he is legitimately authorized to give deployment orders and if he is denied the discovery and then convicted, then his conviction should be overturned.

If he were given an order by a General who refused to show him, when questioned, his commission, then he could not be convicted unless it were shown that the order came down from a person who had the authority to give that order. The constitutionality of any deployment by a president is contingent upon that person being eligible to hold the office.

Obama has an obligation to present ALL evidence of his eligibility before anyone has an obligation to obey any of is orders.

47 posted on 04/28/2010 7:25:37 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Non-Sequitur
I think a good lawyer can find a venue to sue over a service pension being withheld from an American born citizen by a Kenyan born citizen, as per his wifes recorded statements.

A little girl from Arkansas had much less standing than this man. Much less, just her word against against a Governor and then a US President. This man has a First Lady makeing public statements that support his position. He has Kenyan Government officals makeing public statements that support his position. He has US Senators openly questioning the presidents qualifications. Once a law suit is started, its like war. Theres no guarantee you will win or lose.

48 posted on 04/28/2010 7:27:58 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: P-Marlowe
If the war was a declared war authorized by an act of Congress, then whether or not Obama is eligible for the office would be irrelevant unless the specific order was signed by Obama.

Any orders that came from people appointed by Obama like the Secretary of the Army/Joint Chiefs, or Secretary of Defense would be illegal too since those individuals can only be appointed by a legal president. Also, any orders issued by officers who were promoted/given their commands or even their commissions by Obama would also be invalid if Obama is ineligible.

49 posted on 04/28/2010 7:34:00 AM PDT by old republic
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To: PA-RIVER
While I don't for a moment think Obama is a natural born citizen, Michelle Obama's comment is in no way "proof" of his being born in Kenya.

She's most likely saying that, because Obama considers himself an "African" American first and foremost (hating, as he does, the blood of his "white" mother), Kenya is his spiritual home and the home of his ancestors.

50 posted on 04/28/2010 7:35:24 AM PDT by SonOfDarkSkies (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself... - D.H. Lawrence)
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To: P-Marlowe

I hope you’re right, but I have a bad feeling in the pit of my stomach.

The Sep 2001 Congressional authorization still holds, so once presidents change, the issue might become the authority of Congress to promote and approve of officers in the military (which it does, especially to such offices as the CJCS which issues orders to officers such as Lakin....iow, they no longer come from the president, but from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff)

I’m up in the air about this one, P-M, and I still think Lakin’s best recourse is to plead post-deployment stress disorder and ask for retirement.


51 posted on 04/28/2010 7:38:25 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: montanajoe

Lt. Col. Lakin has a distinguished military record including plenty of time in war zones. He knows his way around the military culture. He knows what he is doing; and, yes, he knows the consequences—including going to prison.

That makes his decision and his act of conscience even more impressive.

Lt. Col. Lakin is already the winner in this. He is adhering to the dictates of his conscience. And he is doing it courageously.

His court martial and imprisonment will only more focus attention on Obama’s refusal to simply put forth a little piece of paper put forth by all of us at one time or another, including all in the U. S. Armed Forces.

Would some of the detractors here share his courage rather than being anonymous keyboard warrior/nags resting on the laurels of their backsides.


52 posted on 04/28/2010 7:43:09 AM PDT by mtntop3
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To: PA-RIVER
I think a good lawyer can find a venue to sue over a service pension being withheld from an American born citizen by a Kenyan born citizen, as per his wifes recorded statements.

I think you're wrong on that.

53 posted on 04/28/2010 7:49:22 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: xzins

Chaplain—

I believe the best recourse is for OBAMA—NOT Col Lakin—”to plead post-deployment stress disorder and ask for retirement.”

You do not honor, sir, Lt. Col. Lakin’s—yes—sacrifice. It for all of us, including yourself.


54 posted on 04/28/2010 7:53:16 AM PDT by mtntop3
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To: montanajoe

The UCMJ can be misused and abused just like any law and it is NOT the end all for a soldier. If a commander ordered a soldier to shoot an unarmed civilian then the soldier has a duty to disobey that order even if it means UCMJ actions. The appropriate action would be for the military to investigate the alleged offenses and determine if the UCMJ was actually violated.

If Obama is not eligible to be CIC then he is violating the Constitution and all soldiers are required to defend the Constitution against all enemies. In this case, the LtCol is not violating the UCMJ. However, if Obama proves legitimate then the LtCol is violating the UCMJ. Just because the rest of the military establishment is chosing to bury its collective head and accept Obama as CIC and ignore any evidence that Obama is a domestic enemy does NOT mean that every soldier is required to follow this example of ignorance.


55 posted on 04/28/2010 7:53:48 AM PDT by TXDuke
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To: mtntop3; P-Marlowe

Think what you will, but my counsel would hold. I spent 20+ years advocating for soldiers, and I believe I’ve got a feel for when the odds aren’t very good for the soldier.

I’d prefer he live to fight another day. And that IS honoring his sacrifice, for he’s already sacrificed his career. I don’t want to see this American hero sacrifice his retirement or his freedom.


56 posted on 04/28/2010 8:11:48 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it. Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

My wife is from the Phillipines and is now a US citizen.

I asked her yesterday, “What is your home country?”.

She proudly stated “The Phillipines”.

I am a Natural born citizen. My Home country is the USA. I would never think of calling Ireland my Home Country.

Watch Michelle Obamas video. Watch the body language. She is very proud that her Husband was not born an American.


57 posted on 04/28/2010 8:20:24 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: Non-Sequitur
I guess we will have to wait and see.

We now have an American Citizen being threatened with imprisonment for questioning the Presidents qualifications... and the president refusing to release all his birth information.

I never thought I would see this day either.

58 posted on 04/28/2010 8:27:41 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: PA-RIVER
We now have an American Citizen being threatened with imprisonment for questioning the Presidents qualifications... and the president refusing to release all his birth information.

We have an American citizen facing prison for missing movement and refusing to obey the lawful orders of his brigade commander. The deed has been done, there is no changing of mind or putting this particular genie back in the bottle. Obama could release his long form tomorrow and Lakin would still be tried and still be convicted.

59 posted on 04/28/2010 8:32:51 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
You can play with semantics all you want. Osama Bin laden simply parked a 747 on a NY tower. It was not an act of war. Right?

No Seq, we have an officer of the US military openly requesting that the commander in chief provide qualifying documents proving his eligibility. He didn't miss movement because he was at a frat party.

Sorry.

60 posted on 04/28/2010 8:41:32 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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